PS4 version + HD assets for future games. Maybe during the development (2015, I guess), something happened that forced to delay even more the game.
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Persona 5 Won't Be Out In North America Until February 2017
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PS4 version + HD assets for future games. Maybe during the development (2015, I guess), something happened that forced to delay even more the game.
Odin's Sphere is an Atlus published game right? That has dual audio.
StereoVsn
Member
What I am puzzled about is just incompetency of Atlus between their divisions. Far smaller companies (Atlus is Sega, don't forget) manage to release games in dual audio, release PS4 versions without 2+ years of delay, manage to communicate between their divisions normally and even sell their games to that big country called Europe.
Shit like Atlus USA just starting localization work this year or just now investigating dual audio options and no word about European localization point to issues in Atlus corporate structure. P5 is their biggest release in almost a decade if not ever, and it should have been all hands on deck.
Instead we have amateur hour with US division insisting on release 3 years in a row, not managing to write JPN VA contracts for 2016, no communication between divisions, and a failure to properly address a huge market of over 500 million people which is also a PS4 stronghold.
...I don't think they've said ALL lines...
That is almost definitely not happening, surely?
Space Medafighter X
Member
Doesn't this make sense? If I remember correctly SMT 4 took 5 months as well.
If you didn't have it by December, chances were you weren't going to buy it anyway.
Yeah, a solid date is a huge deal. It sucks, but it's so nice to know the guessing is finally over.
MaximumSpider
Banned
I wouldn't mind one bit if they did.
Looks like I gotta call the store then.
wasn't that like a month?
ChasingComets
Member
I doubt the game was anywhere near completion at all. My guess is that Index's problems and the subsequent Sega shuffle had disrupted the production schedule until the transition was firmed up.
Technically a Vanillaware game, but Atlus (both JP and USA) is publisher of the game. It's not a surprise that Velvet is called that way
Odin Sphere had JP audio even in its original release, so I would guess Vanillaware influenced some way to make this happen.
Thanks for this!!!
Preordered!
$77.93 after 20% discount and tax added!
Can't wait to play this. Though I hope FF12ZA doesn't release before or too soon after, but I wouldn't be surprised if 12ZA drops before fiscal year end; though perhaps after year end?
Robert at Zeboyd Games
Banned
And having their parent company collapse for illegal activities & being bought by somebody else certainly can't have helped their development process.
Atlus Japan is deathly afraid of reverse importation. A stupid fear, but it is what it is. And voice acting contracts in Japan can be messy and demand for Japanese voices outside Japan is just a vocal minority so it's often considered an unnecessary expense.
I really hope that nobody thinks that adding a PS4 port is what caused the delay and not them making their biggest RPG to date (which also happens to be one of their first major HD games developed in-house).
I don't disagree with you that Atlus Japan should get things in order, especially when it comes to releasing their games overseas in Europe, but this is all stuff we've known about for quite some time. The idea that P5 would come out in English this year was a faint hope at best once we knew how late the Japanese version was coming out.
Incredibly disappointed with the lack of dual audio for this release. The japanese cast is so amazingly great, it feels like a disservice not being able to pick that...
Oh well, with some luck maybe we'll get them as DLC later or something. The post did say 'Right now', so it doesn't kill the chance off completely, r-right...?
That said, still pretty hyped for the game. And I guess if I'm forced to play with the dub, then I'd love to have Laura Bailey returning as some other character. Her role in P4 was greaaaat.
Oh well, with some luck maybe we'll get them as DLC later or something. The post did say 'Right now', so it doesn't kill the chance off completely, r-right...?
That said, still pretty hyped for the game. And I guess if I'm forced to play with the dub, then I'd love to have Laura Bailey returning as some other character. Her role in P4 was greaaaat.
Oh, well thats also unlikely even in reverse. If you have a Wii U what the hell else are you going to buy this summer. I mean shit i've been debating getting a Wii U for TMS for months now and if anything the P5 hype is pushing me dangerously close to ordering a Wii U today for TMS. Except for releasing all of them on top of another at once I don't see how niche RPG titles are affected to that extent. I hate to generalize but the RPG gaming niche seems to be front loaded and pretty static and faithful. Maybe deep sales on like Steam and PSN are a thing for older titles but I don't see TMS having long legs at all.
Makoto Yuki
Banned
Geez some of you are so impatient. You have waited for P5 this long, a couple more months won't kill ya.
I'm stoked we have a solid date, this is fantastic.
I too got my order in.
As much as I want to play FFXII:TZA and finally experience the Zodiac Job System. P5 is priority, I've at least played FFXII.
I'm stoked we have a solid date, this is fantastic.
I too got my order in.
As much as I want to play FFXII:TZA and finally experience the Zodiac Job System. P5 is priority, I've at least played FFXII.
I'm assuming that's the case with Hardin's tweet, "We're throwing everything into English dub"
ShadowSoldier89
Member
but what if I do die sometime between september and february huh. never thought of that didya
have you seen this game
this is easily the single most ambitious thing atlus has ever put out by a mile
I don't believe in Dual Audio for a second at this point.John posted on Twitter about the possibility of dual audio
Bbut that's cool, my CFW PS3 does what Atlusdoesn't.
Demoskinos
Member
Is this really a surprise? I could have called this from a million miles away.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
It's like... another half a year. For a game that's been delayed like 2 years already.
It sucks.
Robert at Zeboyd Games
Banned
Admittedly, it's dirt cheap, but our RPG, Cthulhu Saves the World has sold reasonably well for years. Very not-frontloaded. The Penny Arcade RPGs were more frontloaded than that, but they were also more niche and more importantly, they were part of an ongoing narrative so it was more of a diehard fan thing.
Obviously, Atlus thinks that their games can sell well over time otherwise they wouldn't do so many digital sales.
Persona 4 came out almost 8 years ago. 5 months isn't going to kill anybody. I'm thrilled we finally have a set date.
Kssio_Aug
Member
Thanks everyone for the replies!
I don't know... I think its unlikely to see TLG this year, giving how much information we have about, besides the reveal for PS4.
About Nier Automata, I hope it comes this year. But apparently not then! :/
Different demogrphic.
Makoto Yuki
Banned
I guess I have other things to occupy myself then sitting around waiting on video games. Sure it sucks but come on, I would rather wait half a year then it be delayed again.
If it got delayed again the salty tears would be even sweeter. Coming Winter 2018, the meltdown would be glorious.
Nintendo is publishing so you can rule out most sales. Also you're talking about a niche game that is being released on a dead system.
Almost all of the sales are going to be in the first two months.
mrmickfran
Member
It's like Atlus and Nintendo switched roles. Nowadays, if you miss a Nintendo CE, Good freaking luck.
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To be honest, I would've rather have Nintendo translating TMS instead of Atlus if that meant we would be able to get P5 sooner (yes, yes censorship, I know)
Makoto Yuki
Banned
Tell Atlus you are dying for advance copy. Boom. You are welcome.
I hope you don't die, or are sick in anyway. I've seen some people in bad shape in the operating room.
SolidSnakeUS
Member
No free shipping from Best Buy... what the fuck...
ChasingComets
Member
The game is nearly a decade in the making, was promised twice before, and finally pushed back to another year today. It will be 2 and half years from when the game was originally promised.
So yea, it is a little agitating to see the goal posts keep moving, even if we knew it coming. Granted, the Persona series is pretty close to my heart, and one of the few game series I would drop literally everything to play.
On the bright side, it's not like last year where I had to wait 8 months for FE Fates.
Is that more because those are niche though?
I swear the Catherine CE was a bit harder to get. Not overly hard, but it sold out at a few places.
StereoVsn
Member
Robert, your RPGs are like $2-$3. That's a a Tall cup of Starbucks. Let's not compare to $60 games
. Now, CSH is a different animal and I really hope it has long legs, game looks great.
I don't even want to know what the hell Atlus management is thinking in regards to dual audio or Europe but they seem to do well with higher prices releases on the front end (3DS and Vita) and then doing rapid sales starting 3-6 months in and dropping in price like a rock after a year.
Robert at Zeboyd Games
Banned
Even if you don't think TMS will have any effect on P5 and vice versa, you really think that releasing SMT4 Final & Persona 5 at around the same time is a good idea? You really think that when offered a choice between "Biggest budget JRPG we've ever done in our most popular series" and "Here's a cheap direct sequel to a mid-budget portable RPG that you probably never finished and we're going to charge you an extra $10" that people aren't going to think "Maybe, I should just buy Persona 5 and skip SMT4 Final?"
Makoto Yuki
Banned
A decade in the making? I don't think so. If I recall correctly 2010 is when we started even HEARING rumors about P5. The newly made Persona Studios was making Catherine. So it's not like they were actively making P5 for a whole decade.
Sure two delays sucks but I would rather wait 6 more months and have a solid date then hear another delay.
Commanche Raisin Toast
Member
where are you guys seeing the preorder on Amazon?
search isn't bringing it up for me. Amazon has been weird about preorders lately. i've had 2 of them canceled and the game unlisted, and then lots of stuff that's been confirmed for a long time not being on the site at all.
search isn't bringing it up for me. Amazon has been weird about preorders lately. i've had 2 of them canceled and the game unlisted, and then lots of stuff that's been confirmed for a long time not being on the site at all.
eyeball_kid
Member
Dammit. I was hoping it'd at least be in January. Trying to avoid spoilers in threads for five months is going to suck.
The retail sets are underwhelming. I just want the soundtrack disc, but apparently I can only get that with the $90 version? Remember the days when Atlus bundled the soundtrack for free?
Also not a fan of the standard case cover. Looks way too busy. Wish they had used the bold red and black graphic style of the game.
The retail sets are underwhelming. I just want the soundtrack disc, but apparently I can only get that with the $90 version? Remember the days when Atlus bundled the soundtrack for free?
Also not a fan of the standard case cover. Looks way too busy. Wish they had used the bold red and black graphic style of the game.
StereoVsn
Member
People who are going to buy SMT 4 sequel know what they are getting into and P5 has no relationship to it. If they are going to pony up $50 for the game, they beat SMT IV and liked it and are ready for the sequel.
If P5 hypothetically released 2 weeks later, maybe it would have cannibalized some sales, otherwise meh, it don't matter. People either buy Atlus 3DS games on release or wait till $20 sale in 6 months.
ChasingComets
Member
Specifically, what I was referring to is the time since P4 was released in Japan. Given the relative success at the time, the writing was on the wall for a P5 to be made, even if development didn't start until much later. (And even later still for full development)
StrikeFirst117
Banned
Got it ordered on amazon US WOOOOOOO.
Space Medafighter X
Member
Just looked it up, May 23rd in Japan, July 16 in North America.