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[WedgeX]

The problem is as follows being in the EU means anyone from any EU country has the right to come and work in the UK - but there are tough restrictions on immigration from the rest of the world, including Commonwealth nations such as India, Pakistan and a number of Caribbean nations. Leaving the EU gives us back control of our borders and allow us to introduce a fair immigration policy.

This is what this is about in terms of immigration, a fair policy one that doesn't encourage free movement of people who don't even contribute to our economy or our culture and instead choose to segregate themselves and simply send money back home out of our economy without working a damn hour for it.

You may not find that to be an issue but I do and yes, it's only a small minority doing it but nonetheless it's still relevant and still needs to be dealt with and being a part of the EU makes that impossible.

With a better system in place, we can have better skilled foreign workers and a better system that encourages multiculturalism without allowing a small minority of abusers to ruin it for everyone else.

My grandad was an immigrant and he came to the UK, fought in both world wars for this country and worked his arse off until he died, I have literally zero respect for people who have no intention of doing the same and the system the EU has in place alongside out overly generous benefits system encourages it.

Whilst you might want to shut down conversation about this and live in ignorance that's your choice but it's a real issue, I am not saying it is the ultimate issue and even a huge one but it's an issue that needs resolving nonetheless, you seem to be outright dismissing that this is happening which tells me you clearly haven't experienced this happening or have turned a blind eye to it?

Immigration is a positive for this country and thankfully the majority of people who move here are hard workers and bring unique skill sets which helps the country to thrive but unfortunately the system that is in place with the EU is just irresponsible.

The United States has the exact same freedom of movement for US citizens between all 50 states and extended territories despite cultural and economic differences. Its been tried before. It works.

 

[Dr.Acula]

For all the talk of bigotry using phrases like "You people" isn't very becoming is it?

Context matters. You can "you people" a group of largely white voters the same way you can call people in a union "lazy" but saying that about Mexicans would be racist or you can call teens "bad drivers" but you can't say that about Asians.

 

[KZObsessed]

I really don't understand how anyone can have anything against Europeans living here. Bunch of crazies.

 

[Zelias]

I live in Sheffield and have heard nothing like this.

Ya know, just for balance.

Look, I'm not doubting it has and yes it's absolutely disgusting.

You're not doubting it but you're certainly doing your best to downplay it. I imagine it'll be a comfort to my friends that you, personally, haven't seen any though.

 

[WedgeX]

This is an entirely different matter, how is this even remotely the same thing? Imagine if the UK were dictating your foreign policy and making laws for you and controlling your immigration laws, would you accept it?

Washington, DC controls all of Michigan's foreign policy and immigration. Via elected officials. Just like the UK's representatives to the EU. Except we have a federal style government compared to the EU's confederation. So....yes.

 

[Zaph]

This is an entirely different matter, how is this even remotely the same thing? Imagine if the UK were dictating your foreign policy and making laws for you and controlling your immigration laws, would you accept it?

But our policies aren't being made by a foreign country without our input? We have a voice and veto in the EU and we use it a lot.

All-round terrible analogy, but I wouldn't expect anything less from a Brexiter.

 

[Principate]

Context matters. You can "you people" a group of largely white voters the same way you can call people in a union "lazy" but saying that about Mexicans would be racist or you can call teens "bad drivers" but you can't say that about Asians.

Isn't more of difference between conscious choice and consequence in comparision to skin colour etc which isn't one. People have been demonising ideologies and the people who follow them for as long as known history, it's commonly as sad as we may find it it is commonly accepted.

 

[Kimawolf]

This is an entirely different matter, how is this even remotely the same thing? Imagine if the UK were dictating your foreign policy and making laws for you and controlling your immigration laws, would you accept it?

We didnt accept it.

I,imagine it would be like if the u.s. had open borders with Canada, Mexico, South america. Anyone can come and go as they please and a lot of policy was being decided in Rio or something. Yeah America wouldn't stand for that at all.

 

[veryslowhand]

I feel sad for my fellow Spaniards living in the uk

 

[Principate]

We didnt accept it.

I,imagine it would be like if the u.s. had open borders with Canada, Mexico, South america. Anyone can come and go as they please and a lot of policy was being decided in Rio or something. Yeah America wouldn't stand for that at all.

Technically as the strongest economy it would be America doing the dictating, and it definately does that.

 

[*Splinter]

This is what this is about in terms of immigration, a fair policy one that doesn't encourage free movement of people who don't even contribute to our economy or our culture and instead choose to segregate themselves and simply send money back home out of our economy without working a damn hour for it.

But this is demonstrably untrue? Or rather, immigration as a whole brings more onto the economy than it takes out. Your core argument is a fucking fallacy.

On top of that, you choose to focus on a minority of immigrants sending money home, despite the fact that this is offset overall by the money others contribute, meanwhile you dismiss the xenophobic overtones of the Leave campaign AND an increase of actual racist abuse as just the actions/beliefs of a small minority. Do you not see a problem here?

 

[Arials]

The United States has the exact same freedom of movement for US citizens between all 50 states and extended territories despite cultural and economic differences. Its been tried before. It works.

You've just compared free movement within one country with free movement between 28 countries. Let us know when the US has free movement with Mexico, that's the comparable situation, it hasn't been tried before and it would be a clusterfuck.

 

[Messofanego]

There are racist people on the Leave and Remain side, this is nothing new, those idiot racist people were here before the referendum and also not everyone who voted leave are the same as those people.

This referendum has brought out the worst in people on both sides. Anger is not going to fix anything and is just making things worse.

People do stupid things when they are scared and a big change like this can be very scary and things might be tough for a while but we have to get on with things now and work together in building a better country for us and the future generations.

Britain will be fine, it will bounce back, other countries outside of the EU manage and so will we. The government need to make some big changes and start making our country better again.

But the people doing the stupid racist things aren't scared, because they MADE the big scary change here. All of these racist attacks can be attributed to Leave supporters. This is what they wanted, or didn't even think of the ramifications because of some short-sighted protest vote. How can you even say "making our country better again" when the problems are due to the Leave campaign? If the economy tanks now, housing value goes down, buying and holidays get more expensive, NHS gets less support, schools get less funding, you can't act as if this change was a good to happen that will make Britain better than ever.

What is the worst that has come out of the Remain side, btw? It better be equivalent to racist attacks.

 

[BruceCLea]

I see UK can really no longer claim they're smarter than Americans just because they have a fancy accent. You could have replaced "southern" and "Muslim" in here and I wouldn't know the difference from a US story.

Poor little kid had to experience first hand what ignorant people are like. You fought Hitler who loved blind racism and now you have some of your own. Keep it classy.

I'm from the South and I take offense to this. Racism is everywhere. It's fucking everywhere and it sucks. Stop blaming the South. You're being hypocritical as well, since your condemning a particular group because of where they're from.

 

[Bubba_Sparks]

i imagine Poles, Swedes, Danes, Spaniards, etc are part of that 90%.

lol, it's still much less multicultural than the United Sates or Canada. It's a joke to talk about immigration in the UK as if it's an existential issue when 90% of your population is white.

EDIT: You also just named a bunch of white Europeans as a portion of the White population, that doesn't really make a strong argument for multiculturalism. 20% of the population of Canada is made up of visible minorities, those who are not white or aboriginal. In the United States, just plain old while people account for just ~63% of the population! Even if you add white Latino's into the mix you're still only at about 75% of the population. Compare that to the UK where nearly 90% of the population is white!

 

[Principate]

But the people doing the stupid racist things aren't scared, because they MADE the big scary change here. All of these racist attacks can be attributed to Leave supporters. This is what they wanted, or didn't even think of the ramifications because of some short-sighted protest vote. How can you even say "making our country better again" when the problems are due to the Leave campaign? If the economy tanks now, housing value goes down, buying and holidays get more expensive, NHS gets less support, schools get less funding, you can't act as if this change was a good to happen that will make Britain better than ever.

What is the worst that has come out of the Remain side, btw? It better be equivalent to racist attacks.

Same old bullshit nationalism making Britain Great again, don't give a shit if their economy takes and their lives gets demonstratedly worse. At least we have that nationalism, will never fail us.

 

[Arials]

lol, it's still much less multicultural than the United Sates or Canada. It's a joke to talk about immigration in the UK as if it's an existential issue when 90% of your population is white.

Population density figures:

UK 660 people per square mile
USA 85 people per square mile
Canada 8.8 people per square mile

 

[WedgeX]

You've just compared free movement within one country with free movement between 28 countries. Let us know when the US has free movement with Mexico, that's the comparable situation, it hasn't been tried before and it would be a clusterfuck.

The 28 member states of the confederated EU are directly comparable to first the 13 member states of the confederated US and now the 50 member states and more territories of the federal US. But the US ad to kick out the articles of confederation to function properly.

 

[Breakage]

Fuck this referendum man.
When quality of life starts going down, these people will still be attacking and blaming anyone who looks foreign.

 

[Bumhead]

You're not doubting it but you're certainly doing your best to downplay it. I imagine it'll be a comfort to my friends that you, personally, haven't seen any though.

Oh give over. No, im not downplaying anything. Nor am I responsible for comforting your friends.

Like I said, that it happened is disgusting. But it is a minority. I take massive umbridge to ridiculous sweeping statements like "I thought my City was better than this". Irrespective of individual incidents, as revolting as they, your City IS still better than that. As is the country in the face of Thursday's outcome.

 

[MistakenMobius]

lol, it's still much less multicultural than the United Sates or Canada. It's a joke to talk about immigration in the UK as if it's an existential issue when 90% of your population is white.

Stop with the Yankeesplaining.
The biggest genocide where between people of same color:
Jews by the nazis.
Tutsi by Hutu.
Armenian by Turkish.

 

[*Splinter]

Population density figures:

UK 660 people per square mile
USA 85 people per square mile
Canada 8.8 people per square mile

Gibraltar 11,320 per square mile

I don't think these numbers are particularly enlightening at anything above city-level

 

[BruceCLea]

OK, now that we know for certain that the British are just as stupid as us Americans, we need to change some things.

You guys have to start using the letter "Z" more. Legitimise must become legitimize and so on an so fourth. Enough with the excessive use of vowels. No more "rumours". It's "rumor"

No more of this stuff.

But we can all agree on "theatre." That's just an awesome way of spelling theatre. I like that one.

Let us be brothers and sisters in the uniformity of our common tongue.

 

[Principate]

Population density figures:

UK 660 people per square mile
USA 85 people per square mile
Canada 8.8 people per square mile

So people are more likely to see immigrants, rather than immigrants actually being anyone of a drain. If they are taking people jobs they're contributing to the economy also consider a lot of western nations, caucason population have a constant or negative birth rate and and aging population, they're helping out with your elderly too. Of course a large proprtion of the elderly seem to hate all that none the less

 

[deli2000]

For all the talk of bigotry using phrases like "You people" isn't very becoming is it?

No, we haven't emboldened a party of racists, a small minority of racist idiots have taken it upon themselves to use a leave vote as a reason to be racist, which they already were before the vote and would continue to be after it, regardless of the outcome, once these idiots get back in their box and go back to worshipping Nigel Farage the result of the vote which was a Democratic process in which over 51% of the country voted for will be irrelevant to them.

Frankly, the idiots you are talking about don't even understand the process in the first place, they think they were voting for immigration to stop completely, this is how pathetic they are.

Also, you cannot reform the immigration process from inside the EU, if that was the case it would have been reformed a long time ago, it wasnt going to happen and no amount of bullshit spin from Cameron would have changed that.

I haven't made your quality of life worse, how has this affected you in any way shape or form? Please explain to me what direct impact this vote has had on you?

You don't know, because nobody knows and anybody who says they know are talking out of their ass, nobody knows what the result of being out is going to mean in the long term and nobody knows what would happen if we remained in the EU.

Even the economic argument of us taking a massive hit isn't coming to fruition as it stands and we won't know the real impact of anything for years.

If it all goes to shit in a few years then quote me and I will be happy to admit ruining your life and possibly my own but I doubt it will ever come to that looking at it realistically.

This entire thread is about hundreds of cases of racist abuse in this country as a result of the leave vote and you're asking me how it affects me? You're right in the fact that I don't how it will affect my savings or my pension in 20 years, but this shit is happening right now. So either we have a country where this has always happened this frequently and we've have turned a blind eye. Or the leave vote has caused this stuff to be more prominent. Both cases are appalling.

The so called minority of idiots you speak of had the third most amount of votes by number in the last general election, and because we can't negotiate a deal that delivers on what the leave campaign has promised that minority of idiots will only grow in numbers.

Also, don't try and pull the reverse racism card on me like it's in any way comparable. Stop trying to talk down to people and fucking empathize for once, instead of moaning because an internet poster said something bad about the campaign you supported.

Also I want actual sources about the legitimate concerns about immigration having any factual basis instead of being an easy scapegoats. May I remind you that immigration has been a supposed problem ever since the colonies became independent and their citizens started migrating here, my parents had to hear the same 'legitimate concerns' about immigration 30 years ago.

 

[Yautja_Warrior]

I think a lot of the immigration talk from non racists comes about because of the UK benefits system. I know a lot of people who are not annoyed by migrants coming here to work, but annoyed because some of them don't work and claim our benefits, without paying into the system.

As someone who has worked since I was 18 (32 now) I don't believe in handouts, especially when some people can claim more in benefits than working a full time job in some cases.

This goes for lazy British people too, benefits should be cut, we have gotten too soft and we shouldn't be handing out money but using that money for creating more jobs, so people can work.

The only exception to this should be disabled and pensioners of course.

 

[ClosingADoor]

I think a lot of the immigration talk from non racists comes about because of the UK benefits system. I know a lot of people who are not annoyed by migrants coming here to work, but annoyed because some of them don't work and claim our benefits, without paying into the system.

As someone who has worked since I was 18 (32 now) I don't believe in handouts, especially when some people can claim more in benefits than working a full time job in some cases.

This goes for lazy British people too, benefits should be cut, we have gotten too soft and we shouldn't be handing out money but using that money for creating more jobs, so people can work.

The only exception to this should be disabled and pensioners of course.

How much does this even happen? Seems to me most of those people would be British citizens, not people from other EU countries coming there specially to leech some benefits.

 

[Stumpokapow]

On topic it's absolutely disgusting, especially the ones aimed at schools. Racists are going to be racists though. They're doing it now out of a bizarre sense of victory, as if everyone of a different nationality or race is going to be thrown out of the UK. Had Remain one, they would have done it out of a sense of anger. Scum gonna be scum no matter what.

So by this logic there has been an exactly equal amount of racism all through history, in every country, at all times. It is not possible to reduce the amount of racism in the world. It's a genetic thing, and we also can't genetically engineer it out. It's just, like, when god makes the soul enter a newborn baby, he sometimes swings the switch to "Perma-Racist" and that's that. That's how racism works. No sense talking about it. It's just a thing that happens. And if you happen to be born brown, well, tough for you because there's nothing we can do about racists. And if racists happen to win an election, it's just a blind fluke, there's no way we can stop racist policies from being enacted. Apartheid South Africa happened because they rolled four dice and they all got a 6, and it collapsed because they rolled four more and they all got a 1.

Does anyone here agree with this?

 

[Vigilant Walrus]

The problem is as follows being in the EU means anyone from any EU country has the right to come and work in the UK - but there are tough restrictions on immigration from the rest of the world, including Commonwealth nations such as India, Pakistan and a number of Caribbean nations. Leaving the EU gives us back control of our borders and allow us to introduce a fair immigration policy.

This is what this is about in terms of immigration, a fair policy one that doesn't encourage free movement of people who don't even contribute to our economy or our culture and instead choose to segregate themselves and simply send money back home out of our economy without working a damn hour for it.

You may not find that to be an issue but I do and yes, it's only a small minority doing it but nonetheless it's still relevant and still needs to be dealt with and being a part of the EU makes that impossible.

With a better system in place, we can have better skilled foreign workers and a better system that encourages multiculturalism without allowing a small minority of abusers to ruin it for everyone else.

You're advocating xenohobia. You're instigating a rhetoric that calls in favor of disparring anyone who doesn't qualify as a "high skilled worker".

I don't know how you can wave this about a better system for multiculturalism when what you're saying is text book discrimination, and punishing everyone due to those few minorities who does not wish to integrate. It's an absurd and untruthful argument. Study after study shows that minorities are a boon to the economy. They do the job nobody else wants.
You're doing what has always been done in post-recession periods. Blame the immigrants. Like they are the fault of the disparity, the worsening public sector, the financial downturn.

In what world is a more racist system going to be a boon to multiculturalism? Is your idea of multiculturalism anyone- Just as long as they are a high skilled workers? And I assume that it's not a problem that you have high skilled workers, consultants and experts coming in, working just for the money and then leaving again without integrating either? When those people send their money back home not contributing to the economy, it doesn't bother you?
No, it's that polish au pair who sends a few quid home to her kids in Warsaw. She is the problem. And it's the EUs fault... Can't you hear how insane and hypocritical it sounds?




I agree with you that immigrants who stay for good and who do not wish to integrate is a big problem, but the EU is not the fault of that. The EU is a trade deal. The act of people from other cultures not wishing to learn the culture of the new country they live in, is something completely different. And leaving the EU and passing racist and discriminatory regulation is not the proactive solution. I'm with you it's a problem. Particularly for women who come from countries where it is not appropriate culturally to work. We have challenges to fix in this, but this is not the answer.

 

[Bubba_Sparks]

Population density figures:

UK 660 people per square mile
USA 85 people per square mile
Canada 8.8 people per square mile

What does this have to do with population diversity? The UK has a higher population density because it's a tiny island with whose total land mass is about three and half times smaller than the Province of Onatrio.

 

[Messofanego]

The problem is as follows being in the EU means anyone from any EU country has the right to come and work in the UK - but there are tough restrictions on immigration from the rest of the world, including Commonwealth nations such as India, Pakistan and a number of Caribbean nations. Leaving the EU gives us back control of our borders and allow us to introduce a fair immigration policy.

This is what this is about in terms of immigration, a fair policy one that doesn't encourage free movement of people who don't even contribute to our economy or our culture and instead choose to segregate themselves and simply send money back home out of our economy without working a damn hour for it.

You may not find that to be an issue but I do and yes, it's only a small minority doing it but nonetheless it's still relevant and still needs to be dealt with and being a part of the EU makes that impossible.

With a better system in place, we can have better skilled foreign workers and a better system that encourages multiculturalism without allowing a small minority of abusers to ruin it for everyone else.

My grandad was an immigrant and he came to the UK, fought in both world wars for this country and worked his arse off until he died, I have literally zero respect for people who have no intention of doing the same and the system the EU has in place alongside out overly generous benefits system encourages it.

Whilst you might want to shut down conversation about this and live in ignorance that's your choice but it's a real issue, I am not saying it is the ultimate issue and even a huge one but it's an issue that needs resolving nonetheless, you seem to be outright dismissing that this is happening which tells me you clearly haven't experienced this happening or have turned a blind eye to it?

Immigration is a positive for this country and thankfully the majority of people who move here are hard workers and bring unique skill sets which helps the country to thrive but unfortunately the system that is in place with the EU is just irresponsible.

You know how much money you'll have to spend on maintaining strict borders?

The majority of immigrants coming to UK come for work or study reasons, as you would agree so I don't understand your issue.

If you're so incensed with a tiny minority of immigrants coming to UK to not work or contribute to the economy, why don't you focus that anger instead on the 5 million British born natives on welfare?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...h-do-immigrants-really-claim-in-benefits.html

 

[DontBeThatGuy]

A small minority do this thing I don't like, so lets burn this motherfucker down. Good god. I'll just refrain from saying what I truly want to say.

 

[Yautja_Warrior]

What is the worst that has come out of the Remain side, btw? It better be equivalent to racist attacks.

Well those racist attacks were happening before, and is a small minority using this as an excuse to be extra terrible human beings.

I've seen plenty of verbal abuse and threats from people on the remain side to people on the leave side since the vote. Abuse of any kind should not be tolerated by anyone. Our fellow people should be respected, even if we don't always believe in their opinion.

 

[DontBeThatGuy]

Well those racist attacks were happening before, and is a small minority using this as an excuse to be extra terrible human beings.

I've seen plenty of verbal abuse and threats from people on the remain side to people on the leave side since the vote. Abuse of any kind should not be tolerated by anyone. Our fellow people should be respected, even if we don't always believe in their opinion.

Racist and xenophobes should not be respected, nor those that willingly vote for them out of sheer ignorance. I have plenty of disrespect to go around.

 

[Breads]

Brexit has me legit shook. I never thought it could happen. Considering how many people voted against their immediate interest and are presumably still stoked despite the consequences they're facing it makes me fearful of Trump presidency actually happening - that there are enough idiots out there to make something like this happen.

 

[deli2000]

Well those racist attacks were happening before, and is a small minority using this as an excuse to be extra terrible human beings.

I've seen plenty of verbal abuse and threats from people on the remain side to people on the leave side since the vote. Abuse of any kind should not be tolerated by anyone. Our fellow people should be respected, even if we don't always believe in their opinion.

Show me any instance of a remain voter 'abusing' a leave voter that is in anyway equivalent to polish man being assaulted or people proudly chanting 'go back to your own country' on the street. Otherwise you're peddling the both sides are bad bullshit that has been used to excuse almost any single racist remark or action in this country.

 

[Messofanego]

Well those racist attacks were happening before, and is a small minority using this as an excuse to be extra terrible human beings.

I've seen plenty of verbal abuse and threats from people on the remain side to people on the leave side since the vote. Abuse of any kind should not be tolerated by anyone. Our fellow people should be respected, even if we don't always believe in their opinion.

I'm not seeing verbal abuse, threats, or grafitti from Remain people against Leave supporters being made as visible or violent as the outright racist ones from Leave that are showing up in the news. So, I'm not convinced by your "both sides" argument.

 

[Lovely Salsa]

Brexit has me legit shook. I never thought it could happen. Considering how many people voted against their immediate interest and are presumably still stoked despite the consequences they're facing it makes me fearful of Trump presidency actually happening - that there are enough idiots out there to make something like this happen.

Can we drop the trump already. Its not going to happen. Most people voting for trump are white men and there isnt enough of them to make trump win

 

[Principate]

Well those racist attacks were happening before, and is a small minority using this as an excuse to be extra terrible human beings.

I've seen plenty of verbal abuse and threats from people on the remain side to people on the leave side since the vote. Abuse of any kind should not be tolerated by anyone. Our fellow people should be respected, even if we don't always believe in their opinion.

Honestly that's no different than the types of abuse some labours supporters show tories, which is sadly par for course. I think he means something more notable.

 

[Arials]

The 28 member states of the confederated EU are directly comparable to first the 13 member states of the confederated US and now the 50 member states and more territories of the federal US. But the US ad to kick out the articles of confederation to function properly.

28 nations that all have different languages and 1000+ year histories are not directly comparable to US states that all speak one language and had brief unconfederated histories.

 

[Yautja_Warrior]

Racist and xenophobes should not be respected, not those that willingly vote for them out of sheer ignorance. I have plenty of disrespect to go around.

While I agree those people shouldn't really be respected, it doesn't mean I'm going to go out and attack them verbally or physically either and not everyone who voted leave are like that though and those people don't deserve abuse just because they didn't agree with the remain side.

 

[Calm waterfall]

It was expected when Brexit wins, racism will be emboldened because of that fucking retoric that the Brexit made about immigrants. Soon the UK will need some kind of none violent revolution

None violent V.

 

[Heel]

It actually means "Make England white again".

 

[SneakyStephan]

The rise of nationalism , racism and political move to the right worldwide is really worrysome

 

[Hasney]

I want people to take notice of what happened in Newcastle where the EDL had a demonstration, but people went out and outnumbered them 10 to 1 with placards saying that immigrants are welcome.

I implore everyone to get out there and do the same in your area when cunts like that are out there in force and show them that it's not OK. Right now, some of them will be feeling good and that they're justified to do what they do, but it's up to us to show them that racists are still not welcome in our society. Outnumbering them 10 to 1 should be the low bar and we should come together and show them that we don't support anything they stand for.

The type of unity the politicians want may take a while to come to fruition if it ever does, but on both sides of this vote, we should be united to call out cunts where they stand.

 

[Yautja_Warrior]

I'm not seeing verbal abuse, threats, or grafitti from Remain people against Leave supporters being made as visible or violent as the outright racist ones from Leave that are showing up in the news. So, I'm not convinced by your "both sides" argument.

Just because you haven't seen it, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Clearly someone attacking someone physically is more likely to get news coverage but there plenty of keyboard warriors on the Internet verbally abusing people.

 

[Omega Kirby]

Instead of progressing, they're regressing

 

[Syder]

Racists getting given a green light that their beliefs hold water suddenly start abusing people on the street?

I'm shocked.

 

[Brinbe]

Very eye-opening for a lot of Brits, I bet. They have a lot to grapple with going forward, nevermind the Brexit situation. We'll see which side ends up winning in the end. The diverse demographics kinda solve that issue here in NA, but it's not so simple in England.

 

[Commander Jameson]

Very eye-opening for a lot of Brits, I bet. They have a lot to grapple with going forward, nevermind the Brexit situation. We'll see which side ends up winning in the end. The diverse demographics kinda solve that issue here in NA, but it's not so simple in England.

There are likely to be NO winners in this. Whether we voted for Leave or Remain, the same political issues going forward are going to impact us all.