idk yet but my guess is no, each star ocean is a story in itself, there is references in each but isnt something that will make harder to understand the game and enjoy it.
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idk yet but my guess is no, each star ocean is a story in itself, there is references in each but isnt something that will make harder to understand the game and enjoy it.
shark sandwich
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It's not hyperbolic. I literally can't think of another JRPG where I hated the characters, story, and general style of writing/dialog as much as in SO4.
I'm definitely going to watch some videos of SO5 in English to see if it looks any better. Hard to trust in the people who created Sarah, Lymle, and Edge Maverick.
EscapeArtist
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This guy is streaming on twitch https://www.twitch.tv/bbongdalee
That's the only one I saw on Opencritic's Streaming section.
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I don't know if this is the case anymore, Tokyo Mirage Sessions is like, the most Japanese thing in the world and it reviewed pretty well. In the 80s I believe.
My beef was more with the terrible English voice acting. The bit with Lymlee and that other character was pretty bad, but most other scenes and writing was alright/average jrpg writing. It was made worse simply by wierd doll characters and terrible voice acting (IMO).
Malick[AI];208469328 said:
We haven't even hit I Am Setsuna and Cosmic Star Heroine(very jrpg-like but technically not from japan) which is coming out this summer too. Also big titles about to come out such as FFXV and Persona 5. Basically there's gonna be a renaissance of great jrpgs and I can't wait!
The Welch sections would have been cringe inducing even with oscar winners on the voices
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shark sandwich
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I don't know where the "western reviewers give bad scores to JRPGs" idea comes from. It seems like bullshit pre-emptive damage control just in case a JRPG gets bad scores.
I honestly can't recall any instance where a really Japanese game got shit on by western reviewers because they couldn't wrap their feeble western minds around the Japanese-ness of it. Even really Japanese games like #FE, Persona, Bravely Default, Fire Emblem, etc got very generous scores from western reviewers.
Those parts definitely fell flat. Would have worked if they were funny, but they ended up just being annoying.
GET2DAACHOPPAAAA
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I was hoping this would come with the Star Ocean 2 port for us Westerners. Still day one. GCU $51.
Cornbread78
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I'm still a little butt hurt about this....
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English VA definitely did it's part, but I can't really imagine Edge (
Cornbread78
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I really wanted my Vita version, but they don't want my money...
I'd take a PS4 version if it meant I could play SO2 in English.
But yeah, Vita would be preferable.
Novum_Veritas
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So do we have a review thread for the SO 5 NA release?
It was on PSP and never on PSN in the West. It did get a digital PSN release in Japan though for the PSP version.
It's been 30 where they at?
Cornbread78
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I'll throw one together once the first review drops...
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Twenty minutes ago.
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Oh okay lol, hope reviews are dropping in soon.
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Well, it has the 5 on the Japanese cover, western releases never had numbers on them (if you don't count "Second Story").
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LOL that alternate Earth section is like bad fan fiction written by a middle schooler.English VA definitely did it's part, but I can't really imagine Edge () being a better written character or the whole alternate Earth scenario being any less ridiculous in the original.
SO4 spoilers:
- you somehow accidentally fly straight into a black hole and instead of dying, you pop out somewhere near an alternate version of Earth in the 1950s
- you go in for an emergency landing and just coincidentally land right in the middle of Area 51
- crazy nazi woman demands you hand over the antimatter crystal that powers your ship, and also happens to be orders of magnitude more powerful than any nuclear weapon. Edge "genius" Maverick gives it to her
- Edge gets locked up with Meracle, the half-naked cat girl
- meanwhile Reimi (the smoking hot platonic friend from childhood) gets kidnapped and anal probed by evil nazi scientists
- Nazi woman attempts to use the antimatter crystal, which goes critical
- Edge makes a break for it and goes to rescue Reimi. She slaps him because he sees her naked while rescuing her from a fate worse than death (seriously)
- You run towards your space ship, despite it having no power source since Edge gave up the antimatter crystal
- upon reaching your ship, you discover that Meracle's mysterious amulet is actually another antimatter Crystal that can power your ship
- you take off just in time to see the entire alternate Earth explode
- you fly back into the black hole and pop out where you started from
- Edge has the most cringe-worthy meltdown in the history of JRPG writing
- you go in for an emergency landing and just coincidentally land right in the middle of Area 51
- crazy nazi woman demands you hand over the antimatter crystal that powers your ship, and also happens to be orders of magnitude more powerful than any nuclear weapon. Edge "genius" Maverick gives it to her
- Edge gets locked up with Meracle, the half-naked cat girl
- meanwhile Reimi (the smoking hot platonic friend from childhood) gets kidnapped and anal probed by evil nazi scientists
- Nazi woman attempts to use the antimatter crystal, which goes critical
- Edge makes a break for it and goes to rescue Reimi. She slaps him because he sees her naked while rescuing her from a fate worse than death (seriously)
- You run towards your space ship, despite it having no power source since Edge gave up the antimatter crystal
- upon reaching your ship, you discover that Meracle's mysterious amulet is actually another antimatter Crystal that can power your ship
- you take off just in time to see the entire alternate Earth explode
- you fly back into the black hole and pop out where you started from
- Edge has the most cringe-worthy meltdown in the history of JRPG writing
DriftingSpirit
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I was always interested but after hearing it is ~20 hours long, I am definitely getting it now.
LOL that alternate Earth section is like bad fan fiction written by a middle schooler.
SO4 spoilers:
- you somehow accidentally fly straight into a black hole and instead of dying, you pop out somewhere near an alternate version of Earth in the 1950s
- you go in for an emergency landing and land just coincidentally land right in the middle of Area 51
- crazy nazi woman demands you hand over the antimatter crystal that powers your ship, and also happens to be orders of magnitude more powerful than any nuclear weapon. Edge "genius" Maverick gives it to you.
- Edge gets locked up with Meracle, the half-naked cat girl
- meanwhile Reimi (the smoking hot platonic friend from childhood™gets kidnapped and anal probed by evil nazi scientists
- Nazi woman attempts to use the antimatter crystal, which goes critical
- Edge makes a break for it and goes to rescue Reimi. She slaps him because he sees her naked while rescuing her from a fate worse than death (seriously)
- You run towards your space ship, despite it having no power source since Edge gave up the antimatter crystal
- upon reaching your ship, you discover that Meracle's mysterious amulet™ is actually another antimatter Crystal that can power your ship
- you take off just in time to see the entire alternate Earth explode
- you fly back into the black hole and pop out where you started from
- Edge has the most cringe-worthy meltdown in the history of JRPG writing
I thought it was pretty good, just the delivery wasn't so great. Again with the hyperbole. It was the most original part of the game. Edge's reaction is something that can be a matter of taste. He was pretty mopey but it's reasonable, considering what happened. But again, I didn't play the game with English voice acting so I spared myself some of the cheese. I never really took the game too seriously, this section of the game was like a breath of fresh air, and reminded me of something you might see in the Twilight Zone. (yes, Twilight Zone episodes can be really strange too)
I can understand some of the criticism of the setup and Meracle however Edge's reaction is entirely justified he was responsible
for wiping out the lives of billions of people along with an entire planet
Yeah I agree. The whole Meracle thing is kinda weird, but we are dealing with anime characters traveling planets so my expectation for a realistic situation is not really there.
That being said, even if Edge's reaction may have been over the top, it was entirely reasonable given the situation that happened. I also felt like it was fine and justifiable in the story because the fact that it was an alternate reality. That, and basically the fact that the very force he is a part of becomes dismantled shortly after.
And as far as the story is concerned, the first part of the game fails but I felt that the events that happen after that point continually get better and better. The game really ends up being a test to see if you can get through the first half of the game. Once you get to the main planet and the story events that take place after that point, the game improves dramatically (in my opinion).
Allright then,good to know,will do thanks.
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Reading that and thinking about the whole thing again had me rolling, thanks. I guess I'm over Star Ocean 4.
Hibiki Kurosawa
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How do we know the review embargo is already lifted?
Cornbread78
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Still not a single review on Metacritic, Opencritic or online
Iriscomeback
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Watching that stream now and this game looks a LOT like Zestiria gameplay wise.
no way its that weak.....Zesteria is absolutely the worst tales game I have played. Removed mana everything tied to stamina.....tie everything with complex to a single button. God I hated Zesteria.
Could have been just me.....but I loathe Zesteria outside the really cool opening anime cut scene lol
Hibiki Kurosawa
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Star Ocean has always been the sci-fi Tales series (yes, I'm generalizing), so they look similar. The original Star Ocean was made by disgruntled Tales of Phantasia devs.
R_thanatos
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The worst part of this summary is that the next chapter is home of one of the most boring and long dongeon i've played in a rpg .
And when i thout things couldn't get any worse the chapter after that is full of very long dongeon with no end in sight. That game was a true test for my patience and it failed.
Iriscomeback
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LOL that alternate Earth section is like bad fan fiction written by a middle schooler.
SO4 spoilers:
- you somehow accidentally fly straight into a black hole and instead of dying, you pop out somewhere near an alternate version of Earth in the 1950s
- you go in for an emergency landing and just coincidentally land right in the middle of Area 51
- crazy nazi woman demands you hand over the antimatter crystal that powers your ship, and also happens to be orders of magnitude more powerful than any nuclear weapon. Edge "genius" Maverick gives it to her
- Edge gets locked up with Meracle, the half-naked cat girl
- meanwhile Reimi (the smoking hot platonic friend from childhood™
- Nazi woman attempts to use the antimatter crystal, which goes critical
- Edge makes a break for it and goes to rescue Reimi. She slaps him because he sees her naked while rescuing her from a fate worse than death (seriously)
- You run towards your space ship, despite it having no power source since Edge gave up the antimatter crystal
- upon reaching your ship, you discover that Meracle's mysterious amulet™ is actually another antimatter Crystal that can power your ship
- you take off just in time to see the entire alternate Earth explode
- you fly back into the black hole and pop out where you started from
- Edge has the most cringe-worthy meltdown in the history of JRPG writing
Well then, now I want to replay SO4.
Truly great stuff, though maybe not in the way the devs intended.
e: Actually, maybe like a humorous let's play would be better. Thanks to R_thanatos' post above I remembered how awful some/most/all of the dungeons were in SO4
Cornbread78
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No idea anymore, bit's definitely not 11am EST, lol.
Shifty1897
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Waiting for them reviews like
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