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The UK votes to leave the European Union

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hohoXD123

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Sadiq Khan, the Labour mayor of London, gave a speech this morning at the Times CEO summit. Responding to the petition calling for London to become an independent city state, he said that much as he liked the idea, he did not think it was practical.

But he did want London to have more powers, he said.

In the four days since the referendum, 175,175 Londoners have signed a petition calling for London to become an independent city state.

This petition wasn’t started by a politician or pushed by any particular interest group.

It was an organic movement born out of Londoners desire to have more control over their city’s future.

Now, as much as I might like the idea of a London city state, I’m not seriously talking about independence today.

I am not planning to install border points on the M25!

But on behalf of all Londoners, I am demanding more autonomy for the capital - right now.

More autonomy in order to protect London’s economy from the uncertainty ahead.

More autonomy to protect the businesses from around the world who trade here.

According to his office, Khan wants “the devolution of fiscal responsibility including tax raising powers, as well as more control over business and skills, housing and planning, transport, health and policing and criminal justice.”

Don't know what sort of autonomy he's demanding exactly.
 

Hasney

Member
Sky News

The markets have experienced a 'dead cat bounce' term used in London markets it seems.... basically means 'some' (I used the word some before people roll on me) feel the market is lower than where people expected it to be and now we have bargain hunters coming in

anyway, the result is the markets and the pound are moving up

dead cat bounce

a temporary recovery in share prices after a substantial fall, caused by speculators buying in order to cover their positions.
"is the recession really over, or is it a dead cat bounce?"

a temporary recovery in share prices after a substantial fall

a temporary recovery

temporary

Come on, at this point you didn't vote because you're below the age or just wilfully ignorant.
 

Kabouter

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Sky News

The markets have experienced a 'dead cat bounce' term used in London markets it seems.... basically means 'some' (I used the word some before people roll on me) feel the market is lower than where people expected it to be and now we have bargain hunters coming in

anyway, the result is the markets and the pound are moving up

Yes, over the coming weeks and months we will see whether it is a dead cat bounce, or whether it is actually a sign of the bottom having already been reached.
 

norinrad

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Lol, what are you talking about dude. The only guy screaming for a referendum isn't even in power to push for one.

This is where my problem lies with such comments. Do not take such comments lightly, lol he's not in power, yes not yet but don't underestimate humans. for all we know he could be in power when the next elections come along, that when start to panic for not seeing the signs. It took Farage 16 years to destroy not only his country but took the rest with him as well. Everyone one the representatives clapping there has a country full of people who are going to bleed for what happened last Thursday.
 

danowat

Banned
Myself? Early 30s with a wife and a 1-year old child. My main concern is not for myself, but for the future prospects for of youth who will find that their possibilities limited in ways that were not when I was growing up.

I can understand that, and you need to try and get the wider perspective out of your mind, and plan your finances for you and your family accordingly, be selfish.

You can't change what has happened, but if you are smart with your income and outgoings, you can mitigate some of the risks.
 

klonere

Banned
Wow, Farage really looks like he's trying to make things worse? Screw appealing to his base, how does that help the UK? They fucking laughed at him.

He's reading from the Trump playbook - base over all be damned and the basest base you can find.

It's kind of like Boris in a way.
 

marc^o^

Nintendo's Pro Bono PR Firm
As a french I won't beat a dead horse, but I can't help to regret England has lost their mind. You need a leader to emerge ASAP to minimize.consequences of this mess.
 

EmiPrime

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As a french I won't beat a dead horse, but I can't help to regret England has lost their mind. You need a leader to emerge ASAP to minimize.consequences of this mess.

Yes but first the Labour party needs to tear itself apart and the Tories need a leadership contest.

Priorities.
 

Palculator

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The MEP behind Farage couldn't keep it together when Farage said the consequences would be worse for the EU than for the UK:

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As a french I won't beat a dead horse, but I can't help to regret England has lost their mind. You need a leader to emerge ASAP to minimize.consequences of this mess.

There is a leadership vacuum. Honestly I don't think many people of really high merit want to enter high level politics since it is so toxic. Instead we have to settle with irresponsible people like Cameron and Boris.
 
The MEP behind Farage couldn't keep it together when Farage said the consequences would be worse for the EU than for the UK:

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Sneering unelected MEP Eurocrat guffawing at our great elected MEP statesman who tells it like it is like we get all the good bits and no bad because BRITAIN HAS A FLAG

In other news, I loved this song anyway, but it encapsulates the feeling I have. Change NY to UK and a few other nouns and boom.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eohHwsplvY
 

Kabouter

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This is where my problem lies with such comments. Do not take such comments lightly, lol he's not in power, yes not yet but don't underestimate humans. for all we know he could be in power when the next elections come along, that when start to panic for not seeing the signs. It took Farage 16 years to destroy not only his country but took the rest with him as well. Everyone one the representatives clapping there has a country full of people who are going to bleed for what happened last Thursday.

Yes, certainly Wilders and others like him shouldn't be underestimated. I think the bigger danger however is the long-term risk of a takeover of more Eurosceptic sentiments within more established parties. Part of the reason NL got much stricter on issues like immigration was because established parties like the VVD adopted the narratives of the LPF and PVV to poach votes.

Edit: That and the media, the Telegraaf Media Groep and in particular the weblog Geenstijl that they own constantly push a ridiculous anti-EU narrative. Sadly, the Telegraaf is the largest newspaper in the Netherlands by some distance and Geenstijl incredibly popular.
 

nOoblet16

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Sky News

The markets have experienced a 'dead cat bounce' term used in London markets it seems.... basically means 'some' (I used the word some before people roll on me) feel the market is lower than where people expected it to be and now we have bargain hunters coming in

anyway, the result is the markets and the pound are moving up

It's temporary. It's the reason why pound moved up at the end of the day the results were announced.

But it is not sustained, the "dead" in dead cat bounce should tell you that.
 

Metal B

Member
Part of the problem is, a large proportion of the media that people do consume to learn more is ridiculously biased.

Most of the newspapers were completely biased towards leave, spreading the same lies that were part of the Leave's campaign.

Sure you can get the information online, but the age groups that were voting leave, may not even bother using the internet all that much.
And to add a point to your argument:
The struggle to survive in a age of free information, leads newspapers to continue focus their attention to the biased population, which buys their papers, instead of including a width field of opinions. So you have newspapers fish in small pool with the most sensational headlines. No matter if they are true or not. While actually smart writers still have problems finding a stable market on the web and be visible enough for a big spectrum of people.

We people outside of the UK always laugh about there over the top newspapers. But it shows, that the harm they bring over their country, just isn't funny anymore.
 

mrklaw

MrArseFace
So I felt that expert Sam Bowen on Sky (Director of free market, so a remain voter) said something that I thought was a good idea, what does GAF think...

The UK should sign up to EEA for a period of 5 to 10 years (soft transition) to allow businesses and people to get used to the idea and get ready, and in 10 years we bring a full deal to restrict freedom of movement and a true british deal...

I thought that sounded really fair, both parties win,, freedom of movement and a clear end to freedom of movement.

Except the real result would be

The UK should sign up to EEA for a period of 5 to 10 years (soft transition) to allow businesses and people to get used to the idea and get ready, and in 10 years we hope that people forget that we ever voted to leave because we have no way to change this deal and no voting rights because we're now in an EEA deal.

Sounds like the expert on Sky might have been a leave supporter looking to limit damage by suggesting unrealistic things?
 
This is where my problem lies with such comments. Do not take such comments lightly, lol he's not in power, yes not yet but don't underestimate humans. for all we know he could be in power when the next elections come along, that when start to panic for not seeing the signs. It took Farage 16 years to destroy not only his country but took the rest with him as well. Everyone one the representatives clapping there has a country full of people who are going to bleed for what happened last Thursday.

I'm not saying we shouldn't be worried in the future but right now there is no immediate threat of exiting the EU for the Dutch. Wilders would have to get a majority vote for a referendum to happen and right now he's at 50% of that, it's basically unheard of.
 

Kabouter

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I'm not saying we shouldn't be worried in the future but right now there is no immediate threat of exiting the EU for the Dutch. Wilders would have to get a majority vote for a referendum to happen and right now he's at 50% of that, it's basically unheard of.

Well, right now he is way below 50% of a majority vote :p
By my count he's at 20%. After next elections, probably 50% though, sadly.

Why would he insult them during a trade deal

Because this boosts his popularity and he doesn't give a flying fuck about trade deals of any sort. He won't be held responsible for negotiating them.
 

Funky Papa

FUNK-Y-PPA-4
Not an MEP. Health commissioner vytenis andriukaitis

Ah, much better. Thanks!

http://ec.europa.eu/commission/2014-2019/andriukaitis_en

Responsibilities
  • Modernising and simplifying EU food safety policy while keeping the current high level of safety and ensuring existing policies have maximum effect.
  • Ensuring the Commission is ready in supporting the EU’s capacity to deal with crisis situations in food safety or pandemics.
  • Reviewing the laws that oblige the Commission to authorise genetically modified organisms (GMOs), even when a majority of national governments opposes them.
  • Building up knowledge on the performance of national health systems to shape national and EU policies.
  • Helping address the challenge of increased calls on national health services at a time of intense pressure on public finances.

Vytenis Andriukaitis is part of the following Project Teams:

  • Jobs, Growth, Investment and Competitiveness
  • Digital Single Market
  • Better Regulation and Inter-Institutional Affairs
  • Budget and Human Resources

I think I'd be worried if Andriukaitis laughed at me.
 
Not an MEP. Health commissioner vytenis andriukaitis.

Great dude by the way. Doctor and resistance member diring russin occupation in lithuania iirc.

So somebody who knows about 'independence days', I'd guess...

Farage, you fuckwit.

Reviewing the laws that oblige the Commission to authorise genetically modified organisms (GMOs), even when a majority of national governments opposes them

See, that sounds really bad. There might well be a good reason for it, but how the hell does the EU sell it? It's failing atm. Followed by...

Helping address the challenge of increased calls on national health services at a time of intense pressure on public finances.

...that sounds good! Oh this EU is confuzzling.
 
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