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Radeon RX480 Review Thread, Launching Now!

JohnnyFootball

GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
This is not true, the card's power draw or performance was not reduced by reducing overall TDP package, it was done by rebalancing the PCIe and 6pin rail power draw. With Catalyst 16.7.2 and above there is nothing wrong with Reference RX 480 power draws..

Non- ref designs also use an 8-pin for better stability.

IMO a non-reference card is barely worth it at $270.
 

dr_rus

Member
MSI launches Radeon RX 480 GAMING X 4G and 8G

index.php
 

summary:

+ a bit faster than the 480 strix in factory OC mode
-/+ just shy of 40dB/1m under load with adjusted heat delta
-/+ their 8GB version will clock to just 1.355 ghz / the 4GB version clocked over 1.400 ghz
- asus strix was over 6bB quieter when fan profiles of both cards were moded. that's half the sound pressure and about 65 % of perceived loudness


chances are that the sapphire will be 20-30 euro more than the competition (in germany). in that case i will go with the strix or powercolor.
 

Ashhong

Member
I can no longer justify needing a new GPU. I have a huge PS4 backlog and only play League all day. i will wait until a great deal under 200$ for the Nitro, maybe with a rebate or something.
 
I can no longer justify needing a new GPU. I have a huge PS4 backlog and only play League all day. i will wait until a great deal under 200$ for the Nitro, maybe with a rebate or something.

I'm in a similar boat, I mostly play League nowadays but for all the other games I play at times I would like to have something cooler than my 7970, other than that it handles most things still like a champ.
 

Ashhong

Member
I'm in a similar boat, I mostly play League nowadays but for all the other games I play at times I would like to have something cooler than my 7970, other than that it handles most things still like a champ.

I have zero problems with my card right now, an MSI R9 270. I just wanted to get more into PC gaming, especially with Xbox games coming out on PC more often. But I can wait I think, no rush. I probably wouldn't play the games even. I've only launched Overwatch once since buying it day 1. Stupid League..
 

JohnnyFootball

GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
I can no longer justify needing a new GPU. I have a huge PS4 backlog and only play League all day. i will wait until a great deal under 200$ for the Nitro, maybe with a rebate or something.
It will be a long wait. Video cards very rarely get massive discounts. It's very rare that a Nitro 480 will go under $200 any time soon. $50+ rebate deals will occasionally happen but it's not like video games where sales happen weeks after release
 
I have zero problems with my card right now, an MSI R9 270. I just wanted to get more into PC gaming, especially with Xbox games coming out on PC more often. But I can wait I think, no rush. I probably wouldn't play the games even. I've only launched Overwatch once since buying it day 1. Stupid League..

Hmm yeah that was about my proposal too, I will buy No Man's Sky on PC most likely and also Forza Horizon 3 but my 7970 should handle these well. Yeah I say you aren't bad off with waiting a bit to see if something happens, the 270 is still okay if you're willing to dial settings down if you want to give these XBOX games a try. My drive to play Overwatch got pretty low aswell yet I play League atleast once a day, it really is a addictive daily game :p

It will be a long wait. Video cards very rarely get massive discounts. It's very rare that a Nitro 480 will go under $200 any time soon. $50+ rebate deals will occasionally happen but it's not like video games where sales happen weeks after release

Well I suppose I had insane luck with my 7970, most 7970 were 300€+ when I looked to get a new card so I bought a 7950 for 220€. One week later I checked prices again at random and saw a Club3D 7970 Royal Queen for 240€, I never before in my life returned a product so fast like the 7950 to get the 7970. One more week later and they were back to 280-300€+, it was the best buy I ever did as far as PC hardware goes.
 
Non- ref designs also use an 8-pin for better stability.

IMO a non-reference card is barely worth it at $270.

AMDs ref dedign 6 pin isnt wired to specs and carries the same amount of current as an 8 pin connector the power issue is totally moot. An d reference boards are nor 279. I got the 4G for 199 and its on newegg atm for 239.
 

LegendX48

Member
Nitro+ at $280 is pretty disappointing, especially considering that the 1060 is superior AND can be had for $30 less

Edit: whoops, misread, Nitro+ is even more expensive than I thought :/
 

RootCause

Member
Nitro+ at $280 is pretty disappointing, especially considering that the 1060 is superior AND can be had for $30 less

Edit: whoops, misread, Nitro+ is even more expensive than I thought :/
Nitro+
4GB $229.99(dint think they had a 4GB card)
8GB $269.99($20 over their ref card)
8GB OC $279.99(1342 vs 1306 on the other Nitro+ cards)
 

LegendX48

Member
Nitro+
4GB $229.99(dint think they had a 4GB card)
8GB $269.99($20 over their ref card)
8GB OC $279.99(1342 vs 1306 on the other Nitro+ cards)
the normal 8gb price is better but still a touch disappointing since the $250 evga 1060's are better performing. Was hoping they'd be lower priced.

edit: the 4gb being $230 is nice though but... 4gb seems like it'd be the absolute minimum and is a small jump from 3gb on my 7950.
 

JohnnyFootball

GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
the normal 8gb price is better but still a touch disappointing since the $250 evga 1060's are better performing. Was hoping they'd be lower priced.

edit: the 4gb being $230 is nice though but... 4gb seems like it'd be the absolute minimum and is a small jump from 3gb on my 7950.

They're performing better in some benchmarks, but not others. Right now they're a wash, but I'd still say get the AMD over the 1060 since the 6GB vs 8GB difference could matter later on.
 

DonMigs85

Member
I still really think it's the ROPs holding the RX 480 back in most situations vs the 1060. 32 ROPs + lower clock relative to the 1060 with 48 ROPs and can overclock to around 2GHz boost... All those TMUs can't make up for that in every case.
 
The price is sh*t here in the UK but the ASUS Strix 480 looks like a great custom 480, even compared to the Nitro.

In contrast to TPU (whose Strix review was quite frankly poor for a number of reasons), KitGuru managed to overclock theirs to 1400Mhz, and could have pushed it further but the sliders in GPU Tweak were maxed at that level:

KitGuru said:
Using GPU Tweak, we were able to get the Asus RX 480 Strix Gaming OC Aura stable at a core frequency of 1,400mhz with the settings above. Unfortunately, the sliders were maximised at this point so we might have been able to push the graphics core even further. We attempted to overclock the card in AMD WattMan but reached a stable limit around 1,380mhz – lower than with GPU Tweak.
We overclocked the memory to the slider limit as well, which is only +160. We aren’t sure if these somewhat modest slider limits are a glitch on some level, but I tried the card in 3 different systems and got the same results.

http://www.kitguru.net/components/g...us-rx-480-strix-gaming-oc-aura-rgb-8192mb/30/

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Their power consumption also puts the card much lower than the TPU review, and under a custom 970. Something is very wrong with W1zzard's review:

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computerbase review said the same

even produced less noise than the nitro OC with custom fan profile

Yep. Overclock headroom may be flawed on the Nitro reviews as well as it seems overclocking software is still buggy.

The ASUS Strix gives me high hopes for the Powercolor Devil. Could be the best of the lot - high OC potential, cool temps and much cheaper at £250 here.
 
Do I or don't I? http://www.mindfactory.de/product_i...-Red-Devil-DDR5-HDMI-3xDP-retail_1114628.html

Coming from a 7970 that would be a nice upgrade but I don't know after having the luck of getting a 7970 for 240€ I feel spoiled and 300€ for a medium-card seems too much. Power-wise I would love a 1070 but I won't pay the price.

EDIT: Given it a bit of thought 150€ more for a 1070 isn't that far fetched in a terms of financials if I already pay 300€ but I worry about the longevity of nVidia GPUs, last one I had was a GeForce FX 5700 Ultra :/
 

Nikokuno

Member
I think I'll wait for the RX 490 or Na'Vi, if I find a deal for GTX 1060 or RX 480 for cheap maybe I'll reconsider. The whole waiting from AMD partner tired the shit out of me.

I'll upgrade my rig at the same time too.
 
Nitro OC+ review up on KitGuru.

I've swung back to the opinion that this card is the one to get out of the customs. Seems ahead by more than just a bit of the 480 Strix but consumes more power.

Seems way ahead of 1060 also in quite a few tests:

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Again KG found AMD's WattMan to be buggy when overclocking and curiously, the software didn't seem to be adding any voltage despite adjusting the setting. Real balls-up for AMD as a lot of reviewers are doing tests with WattMan and coming to the conclusion 3% overclocks are the max...how they haven't managed to sort that out by now is shocking really.

In any case, KG managed 1390Mhz on the 8GB Nitro:

KitGuru said:
If you have another £50 to spend then the Sapphire RX 480 Nitro+ OC 8GB delivers better frame rates and we managed to get it stable to 1,390mhz in AMD’s Wattman. As I detailed earlier in the review I don’t feel Wattman is a great software package. Voltage increases didn’t seem to work on the Sapphire cards either so I am confident that when Sapphire release TriXX 3.0 better results will be possible.
We had to deal with another little glitch, also mentioned in our review of the Asus RX480 earlier this week. Target temperature settings would switch on start up from 65c to 75c, and then vice versa. Sapphire are aware of this issue and it has already been reported to AMD. We managed to test both cards at the correct setting of 75c and the fans are nonintrusive, with merely more than a faint whirr audible under load. In a similar fashion to leading cards from all the major manufacturers, the fans switch off at idle, and below a certain temperature threshold.
Right now the best RX 480 available is the Sapphire 8GB Nitro+ OC model. It is not only faster out of the box than the Asus RX 480 Strix OC model we reviewed earlier this week, but it is quieter and £40 less expensive. Below £250 makes more sense to me in today’s highly competitive market.

Both 4GB and 8GB Sapphire RX 480 Nitro+ OC cards are the best available today at their respective price points. The build quality of the cards is exceptional.

http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/sapphire-rx-480-nitro-oc-4gb-8gb-review/32/
 

dr_rus

Member
Nitro OC+ review up on KitGuru.

I've swung back to the opinion that this card is the one to get out of the customs. Seems ahead by more than just a bit of the 480 Strix but consumes more power.

Seems way ahead of 1060 also in quite a few tests:

x3dmark8.png.pagespeed.ic.y4YAYBE-dG.webp


xhitman-1440p4.png.pagespeed.ic.Y21aEXN2bO.webp


Again KG found AMD's WattMan to be buggy when overclocking and curiously, the software didn't seem to be adding any voltage despite adjusting the setting. Real balls-up for AMD as a lot of reviewers are doing tests with WattMan and coming to the conclusion 3% overclocks are the max...how they haven't managed to sort that out by now is shocking really.

In any case, KG managed 1390Mhz on the 8GB Nitro:





http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/sapphire-rx-480-nitro-oc-4gb-8gb-review/32/

Oh wow, it manages to consume more than a 1080 at stock.
 

Olli128

Member
Had my reference 480 since a few days after launch, came from a 270x and it's been great. Plays everything throw at it 1080p/60 and stays nice and cool. Stays quiet too in my fractal r5. If your playing in 1080 you really don't need anything more!
 
(This was originally posted in another thread, but I thought I'd post it here and in the GTX 1060 review thread to hopefully reach more people who might be able to help me. I hope you don't mind.)

I'm currently trying to decide on a custom 8GB RX 480 (like the Sapphire Nitro which seems to be the best of that category) or a custom Nvidia GTX 1060 (one with good silent cooling, like can anyone vouch for say MSI's Armor or Gaming series of custom cards?).

There are a number of factors that I've spent hours and hours deliberating over now. It's honestly been taking so much of my thoughts and distracting me so much that I worry it is going to negatively affect my grades in the summer Linear Algebra course I'm taking. :p

1. Is 6GB and a reduced memory bandwith on the 1060 going to bottleneck that card compared to the 480's 8GB and higher bandwith? Does anyone think that 2GB and a little less speed will become a concern in the next 3, 4 or 5 years with texture size increases and the growing rise of 1440p and 4k?

2. It appears that the majority of DX12 and Vulkan supporting games perform better on the RX 480 in those modes than on the 1060, apparently because the 480 has better/more asynchronous processors and perhaps better drivers for those two APIs? Does it seem like the 1060 can "catch up" with the 480 with better software support, or will the 480 keep it's lead in these two APIs due to unchangeable hardware advantages?

3. I have heard that the Kepler series has performed worse over time (there was a thread on it that I think used DOOM as an example?) and that this may be due to Nvidia being more focused on supporting only the latest and greatest GPUs, while failing to give as much software attention to slightly older cards as soon as they are maybe 2 years old and out of the public eye. Is this true? Is the 1060 likely to start performing worse than it "should" because of a decreased software support over time?

4. The AMD RX 470 and 460 are coming up in August. Is it likely that the 470 will reach an even lower average dollar-to-frame level than the 1060 and 480? I wasn't planning to upgrade until I decided Deus Ex Mankind Divided deserves to be played on PC, so I am torn between paying just enough to run that well next month, and future-proofing my computer for a few more years before probably building an entirely new one. The 470 is therefore something I'm keeping my eyes on, but it seems like it might be just a bit too weak, 10% would be an acceptable power difference from the 480 IMO.

5. I've heard that PCI-E 3.0 cards runs almost exactly the same on PCI-E 2.0. I have an Asus motherboard with support for Sandy and Ivy Bridge (I have an Intel i5 2500k, so Sandy), and it apparently supports PCI 3.0 if I had an Ivy processor. I'd rather not upgrade since that would be a large expenditure and the 2500k still seems to be an excellent CPU. Will it be fine to use either of these new cards with a CPU that only supports PCI 2.0?

6. Am I right to assume AMD FreeSync is only a tiny bit worse than G-Sync and the price differential between the two options is definitely worth opting for FreeSync because it is nearly as good but much cheaper? Isn't FreeSync an open standard, that Nvidia just refuses to even support their own cards to use, simply because they want to sell their own monitors equipped with the G-Sync module and locking their cards into that achieves that goal? Are TVs (as opposed to computer monitors) going to support either standard anytime soon? I game using a wireless mouse and keyboard with my computer plugged into the family TV, so I thought I'd ask if there is any indication of TV manufacturers adopting this standard. If not, what is the biggest PC monitor that would for a reasonable price?

7. Lastly, and this is kind of a smaller question, is a graphics card backplate necessary? It seems like some say it is important to have in order to protect the PCB from dust and potential scrapes and cuffs, and while that may be true, wouldn't dusting the top of the exposed PCB also be fine? Would the PCB be so vulnerable that dusting with a feather duster or blowing air into the computer would carry the risk of damaging the card? Does dust collecting onto an exposed PCB damage a card over time? Some also say it is important to prevent graphics card "sag", while others would say that isn't really something to be concerned about or it doesn't happen anyways.

Sorry for the huge load of questions, I just have been thinking about these concerns on my own for hours now and I thought GAF could help me out! One other concern for me in regards to upgrading my graphics card is that Newegg has a coupon going on for $25 off from a $200+ purchase and that expires on (or just before?) August 1st, so I'm eager to jump onto one of the two approaching trains.

Edit:

One last question, the power cords/ports for GPUs haven't changed or anything since 2011, right? I built my computer back then but don't have the money to make any upgrades on really anything but the GPU, so I'm just checking that as long as I have the GPU power cords necessary for an AMD 6950 (what I got back then), there will be no problem using those on whatever GPU I upgrade to.

Thank you!
 

Ashhong

Member
Does the reference card have the feature where the fan isn't blowing when it's not in use?

Also are the 4gb cards that are flashable to 8gb still available anywhere?
 
Some quick replies:

1. For memory amount, basically, no. Even 4GB will probably be enough for the foreseeable fair lifetime of these cards. Even today they don't fare well at anything above 1080p and this will not improve. At 1080p, you will not benefit in the least from mega texture packs a-la Doom's 5GB requiring Nightmare mode, the eye simply can not tell the difference in texture quality at this resolution beyond a certain point - and this has been verified by people like Digital Foundry. Bandwidth on the other hand will always be an issue, some games like Far Cry Primal are already very dependent on fillrate and bandwidth, and it will become more critical as your desired antialiasing method and level increases.

2. 1060 can not catch up in DX12, that's a dream. The Pascal architecture is basically Maxwell shrunk to 16nm finfet, meaning it is critically lacking in hardware schedulers. This is why it is so power efficient, but also why it is so terrible at parallelized tasks and low level API async compute operations. This will not improve. This will likely continue to be the case for Volta, which is very likely going to be Pascal (Maxwell) with HBM.

3. I suggest you watch this from the 16 minute mark onwards. It will not get better for the 1060, expecially once Nvidia catches on with the times and produces a new architecture with adequate hardware schedulers to take on DX12/Vulkan, when the Maxwell/Pascal(/Volta) cards will become greatly gimped.

4. RX 470 4GB will probably be an undisputed 1080p Price/Performance king. This will come at the expense of around 20% performance and lower memory bandwidth. What that means is the RX 480 will likely keep you more comfortable for about a year longer than the RX 470 would, but both will be great at 1080p.

5. Don't worry about this shit, like, at all.

6. In my mind, there is no reason to buy a Gsync monitor unless you are terribly invested in the nvidia ecosystem with shit like Shield and whatnot. But then, why should you be? Freesync is an open standard, comparable monitors are significantly cheaper and by investing in it you only force nvidia to cave in and adopt it.

7. Never owned a GPU with a backplate, never understood the appeal. Some people are incredibly anal about the way the inside of their cases look, I can't be assed, like, at all. Even though mine has a window and shit, I just go for a practical bang for buck approach with everything. YMMV.

8. I don't believe the 8-pin PCI-e connector was around in 2010, so your computer may lack that for custom 480/1060s. These cards don't draw very heavy loads on the rail though, so the 6-pin connector can be converted to an 8-pin with a cheap adapter and would be sufficient. People will tell you to upgrade your PSU but fuck that, if it's a branded decent CPU that 6-pin should be able to handle the current.
 

Darkangel

Member
Well NCIX Canada has the Nitro+ up for preorder at $400. Not really sure what card I want anymore.

The stock RX480 is just a little bit below the performance level I'm looking for, while the GTX1060 seems like it might have future proofing issues. My existing GTX670 DCUII seems hindered by its 2GB of VRAM (which was considered fine back in 2012).
 
Between the custom 480s and the 1060s, if price was equal, I would choose a good 480. The DX12/Vulkan performance is simply better and when I think of the games I want to play now (DOOM and WH: Total War) performance is better on the AMD card. When I think what's the upcoming PC game I'm most excited about, it's Battlefield 1. And DICE are going to have a DX12 mode for that game that I am sure will run better on the 480 vs the 1060, because of their support for AMD's Mantle etc.

My choice is actually either a 480 or a 1070. It's just about deciding whether the premium is worth it for the 1070 for me. But between 480 or 1060, the former is now the clear choice for myself.
 
Between the custom 480s and the 1060s, if price was equal, I would choose a good 480. The DX12/Vulkan performance is simply better and when I think of the games I want to play now (DOOM and WH: Total War) performance is better on the AMD card. When I think what's the upcoming PC game I'm most excited about, it's Battlefield 1. And DICE are going to have a DX12 mode for that game that I am sure will run better on the 480 vs the 1060, because of their support for AMD's Mantle etc.

My choice is actually either a 480 or a 1070. It's just about deciding whether the premium is worth it for the 1070 for me. But between 480 or 1060, the former is now the clear choice for myself.

Sounds like you should wait for Vega.
 
At this point I'm glad the 480 customs took so long to release for purely selfish reasons. If AIBs could have got to market sooner they would have scored some more sales. I would have gladly bougt an aftermarket 480 3 weeks ago. I probably would have paid to much and regreted it today. If I was still in this market I would buy the cheapest 1060 I could find. So far the 480 seems to own the Vulkan/DX-12 benches and most likely will continue to, but I don't see that being a majority of games.

At this point I wonder if AMD is just focusing on the 470/460.
 

dr_rus

Member
Radeon RX 480 Red Devil im Test : PowerColors roter Teufel ist zivilisiert und leise

At this point I'm glad the 480 customs took so long to release for purely selfish reasons. If AIBs could have got to market sooner they would have scored some more sales. I would have gladly bougt an aftermarket 480 3 weeks ago. I probably would have paid to much and regreted it today. If I was still in this market I would buy the cheapest 1060 I could find. So far the 480 seems to own the Vulkan/DX-12 benches and most likely will continue to, but I don't see that being a majority of games.

At this point I wonder if AMD is just focusing on the 470/460.

So far the only bench it "owns" when compared to 1060 is Doom VK which is beta with a lack of performance features for NV h/w, presence of known issues with vsync, etc. Hitman's 480 advantage present in both DX11 and DX12 so that's not a sign of a better DX12 performance. In all other DX12 benchmarks 1060 is at least on par or faster - which can either be a good or bad thing depending on how you factor the prices into the equation.
 
A word on backplates: most of the time they are fucking nonsense. Like on my Asus Strix 970 where if has NO function but makes thermals worse.
I fucking hate it, manufacturers advertise something that will hurt your card.

So if you have a choice, always go without backplate.
 

notBald

Member
One last question, the power cords/ports for GPUs haven't changed or anything since 2011, right? I built my computer back then but don't have the money to make any upgrades on really anything but the GPU, so I'm just checking that as long as I have the GPU power cords necessary for an AMD 6950 (what I got back then), there will be no problem using those on whatever GPU I upgrade to.

Thank you!

Be aware that the RX 480 requires a UEFI BIOS, which I think became common from 2012 and onwards. You might want to go with a 1060 if you don't know if your mobo supports UEFI or not.
 
Sounds like you should wait for Vega.

Can't wait that long man I'm currently using a passive GTX 720 (710?) I snagged for 25 quid as I sold my previous GPU (got 270 for it) but I'm on Haswell-E, so it won't work without a GPU :)

But I'll be interested in a Vega card when those come round early nxt year for sure.
 
Well NCIX Canada has the Nitro+ up for preorder at $400. Not really sure what card I want anymore.

The stock RX480 is just a little bit below the performance level I'm looking for, while the GTX1060 seems like it might have future proofing issues. My existing GTX670 DCUII seems hindered by its 2GB of VRAM (which was considered fine back in 2012).

Jesus great... I wanted the nitro bad... what the hell is with these Canadian prices?!?! Every retailer is friggen slapping on an extra $50-100 on top of exchange just for giggles I swear =/

Guess I will keep trucking ahead with my old ass gtx 670 until prices and stock come back down to reality.
 

Sinistral

Member
Well NCIX Canada has the Nitro+ up for preorder at $400. Not really sure what card I want anymore.

The stock RX480 is just a little bit below the performance level I'm looking for, while the GTX1060 seems like it might have future proofing issues. My existing GTX670 DCUII seems hindered by its 2GB of VRAM (which was considered fine back in 2012).

Jesus great... I wanted the nitro bad... what the hell is with these Canadian prices?!?! Every retailer is friggen slapping on an extra $50-100 on top of exchange just for giggles I swear =/

Guess I will keep trucking ahead with my old ass gtx 670 until prices and stock come back down to reality.

Yeah, the Canadian prices and stock are atrocious. Basically $10-$20 more USD on top of the already climbing USD equivalents. I'm passing on these RX 480 now, these 8GB custom 480's for $390-$400 CDN completely lost their purpose in the price segment. Then there's tax and then shipping.

Edit: Even stock 8GB cards are toss up for me to recommend with the 1060 out. The 4GB 480 (stock and custom) are still my goto price/perf recommendation for anyone at 1080p, easily squeezing in a freesync monitor to any build.
 
Be aware that the RX 480 requires a UEFI BIOS, which I think became common from 2012 and onwards. You might want to go with a 1060 if you don't know if your mobo supports UEFI or not.

ouch...looks like it's team green for me then. never knew it required UEFI. my p55 mobo isn't UEFI, so I would have been pissed if I pulled the trigger and got one. thanks for this! very important info for upgraders
 

Jaagen

Member
So the Sapphire Nitro+ is the one to go with? It's the only one available here at the moment, so I might as well just get it.
 
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