ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
I cant tell which post is serious or sarcasm anymore, because the people defending him has been way too ridiculous.
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A polite discourse amongst friends on the importance of MP-elements in No Man's Sky
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I cant tell which post is serious or sarcasm anymore, because the people defending him has been way too ridiculous.
Gorechylde
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This thread has born a new league of sarcasm. This is wonderful.
This thread has honestly been more entertaining than a lot of games I've played this year.
This is exactly what my friends and me planned on doing, I mean even just flying with each other would have been good enough, that's all we ever wanted :/
And without multiplayer we also won't have the inevitable No Man's Sky love-stories where two lone people meet in the endless universe by pure chance and accident as if it were fate, fighting against Crackachu's and then they ultimately becoming a couple and marrying
If it's any consolation I think there's a really, really high chance they'll try to patch in a multiplayer function considering the backlash about this. They have already confirmed they're patching in entire game mechanics.
Not to discount the vague bs they spouted about this feature, but real time MP is hard work and for a small team with a proprietary engine it may just be too hard to do in the context of the game that they designed. Those teams that your comparing them against have a lot more resources to do this kind of thing.
Really? How so? (Curious, didn't follow Driveclub closely)
runnin_blue
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PS4: $398AU
No Man's Sky: $99.95AU
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No Man's Sky: $99.95AU
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letmetrythisname
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It's not. Driveclub had severe server issues. NMS has no servers.
Nicely said; indeed, a polite discourse.
Hah. Okay.
(It does have servers btw.)
Man what a title change!
It's a shame there seems to have been elements of deception here but without context it's crazy to spin off into tin foil hat territory.
I'm gonna wait for context when it comes: the game clearly only got to this point very late in day and I'm expecting it to morph and change if HG continue to push it further towards the original vision.
As I had no interest in MP at all for the title and expected jumps between systems only the sun/sky box issue stands out as a surprise from what I expected but it's not one I expect to affect the experience much.
It's a shame there seems to have been elements of deception here but without context it's crazy to spin off into tin foil hat territory.
I'm gonna wait for context when it comes: the game clearly only got to this point very late in day and I'm expecting it to morph and change if HG continue to push it further towards the original vision.
As I had no interest in MP at all for the title and expected jumps between systems only the sun/sky box issue stands out as a surprise from what I expected but it's not one I expect to affect the experience much.
Skyfireblaze
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That would be great! For now my friends and I didn't purchase the game though if they patch that in we will buy it in a heartbeat.
Did the Steam Store ever say "Online" or "Multi-player" at any point in the description?
PSN Store said "Online Play (Optional)" up until at least July 25th. But if you look now, that is gone.
I once believed it didn't, and people harshly corrected me (which I can understand)...
On July 25th:
Welp... at time of release it was gone for real.
https://store.playstation.com/#!/en-ca/games/no-man's-sky/cid=UP2034-CUSA04841_00-NMSDIGITAL000001
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PSN Store said "Online Play (Optional)" up until at least July 25th. But if you look now, that is gone.
I once believed it didn't, and people harshly corrected me (which I can understand)...
On July 25th:
Welp... at time of release it was gone for real.
https://store.playstation.com/#!/en-ca/games/no-man's-sky/cid=UP2034-CUSA04841_00-NMSDIGITAL000001
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_/¯Honestly I think many people would have been cool with it if he they had just come out and said "Hey, we canceled that feature I talked about on Colbert. Sorry, it would just take too much work for our small team."
UncleSporky
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Did the Steam Store ever say "Online" or "Multi-player" at any point in the description?
PSN Store said "Online Play (Optional)" up until at least July 25th. But if you look now, that is gone.
I once believed it didn't, and people harshly corrected me:
Welp... at time of release it was gone for real. ¯\_(ツ
I remember that. Vindication is pretty great.
This is sarcasm I take it?
Permanently A
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Did the Steam Store ever say "Online" or "Multi-player" at any point in the description?
PSN Store said "Online Play (Optional)" up until at least July 25th. But if you look now, that is gone.
I once believed it didn't, and people harshly corrected me:
Welp... at time of release it was gone for real.
https://store.playstation.com/#!/en-ca/games/no-man's-sky/cid=UP2034-CUSA04841_00-NMSDIGITAL000001
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Don't think Steam ever showed MP. However seems like they just added Steam Cloud to the list.
Gorechylde
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I understand your point. At the same time, a large draw for many space/exploration sim players is connectivity to others. Having a MP component, no matter how rudimentary, would do nothing but increase product appeal. Having the ability to run into other players, even if it's a rare occurrence and all you could do is simply see them, would provide an organic flare to the procedural content so prevalent in this game. It seems HG knew this and spouted bullshit to play to that crowd or something else is going on here.
I'm kind of disappointed Kotaku isn't keeping this article pinned to their front page for as long as this confusion lasts. This is the kind of thing that would be a factor for people in deciding whether or not they will buy the game and it's their job to inform the public as fully as possible, after all.
Oh snap!
Is it cancelled though? From current info I suspect it's simply been pushed back for later (unless they flat out were lying).
Feels like HG were on a path to severe overrun to meet their design goals and had to agree a launch minimum with Sony to get the sucker out. I wouldnt be surprised to see big patches/changes going forward possibly including MP.
Assuming the game keeps enough community anyway.
ClosingADoor
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That is the mystery now. If they just came out before release and said "this is one, this isn't and here is the planned roadmap for updates" nobody would even have to ask these questions.
smashballTaz
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My man! Add me on Elite Dangerous too, I'm Anastazius on there. Is there an active GAF group at the moment?
True, we don't really know if it's cancelled, but if it's planned for a future patch they could let us know that as well.
Amazing title change!
I'm kind of in the middle about this. It doesn't really affect my enjoyment of the game at all, and I can certainly see this as something that they originally intended to do but then couldn't implement. But at this point they should clarify what is going on and it's not unreasonable for people to be upset that it's not being addressed.
I still wonder if it has something to do with instancing or the like, but given that I can never seem to get my game online in the first place I really can't speculate what this looks like on the server side. If it's an issue of instancing that should be addressed, if the feature just never made it into the game, that should also be addressed.
Just like the issues with Niantic and Pokemon Go, I think the lack of communication is what is really driving the frustration here.
I'm kind of in the middle about this. It doesn't really affect my enjoyment of the game at all, and I can certainly see this as something that they originally intended to do but then couldn't implement. But at this point they should clarify what is going on and it's not unreasonable for people to be upset that it's not being addressed.
I still wonder if it has something to do with instancing or the like, but given that I can never seem to get my game online in the first place I really can't speculate what this looks like on the server side. If it's an issue of instancing that should be addressed, if the feature just never made it into the game, that should also be addressed.
Just like the issues with Niantic and Pokemon Go, I think the lack of communication is what is really driving the frustration here.
Did the Steam Store ever say "Online" or "Multi-player" at any point in the description?
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I think another key point is how long people have known that PS+ wouldn't be required.
And people were discussing that a year ago at the very least.
Basically, those keeping up with game development aren't as surprised as those who haven't kept tabs. Which happens all the time in game development -- features dropped or changed. And yes, it is the developer's job to make sure features are well known.
HG should have had a PR guy long ago to make things clear.
stan423321
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This is ridiculous. The game is called No Man's Sky. If we take it entirely literally and entirely metaphorically at the same time, player character shouldn't be there either; that, or they're alien and title doesn't apply anyway. Besides titles are not meant to be total descriptions of the work.
If the point of the game was "loneliness in space", then we never should have received the "you can grief other players a little" message. Not to mention presence of name spreading system gets slightly nonsensical at this point, but that's another story. Are you telling me that at the point we got all those quotes, the title of the game wasn't decided on?
Exactly same boat.
The more I think about it, the more I feel that being able to cross paths with others and see them would just get in the way of the relationship forged between Sean and the player. The subtle and varied nuances of what exists and what doesn't, as told by a procedurally generated narrative out there in the little clusters of cosmos, is actually a conversation between God and man. It is a spiritual journey; 18 quintillion days in the wilderness, as it were.
Sean is our smiling God, and His mysteries are not ours to question. His words might seem confusing to some, but that's just because we are too mired in our literal interpretations to realize that our isolation is a blessing; an offering from Him to us that says:
"Go forth and find thyself. Only thyself."
I wish more gamers understood art.
Sean is our smiling God, and His mysteries are not ours to question. His words might seem confusing to some, but that's just because we are too mired in our literal interpretations to realize that our isolation is a blessing; an offering from Him to us that says:
"Go forth and find thyself. Only thyself."
I wish more gamers understood art.
Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
If Hello Games doesn't clarify the contradictions soon, then I hate to say yeah, they must sadly be added to the "list" of shady developers.
Nah, my multiplayer experiences with Elite Dangerous have shown me just how much fun flying around in space with others can be. NMS would have benefited incredibly by allowing players to meet up and find each other along the way, especially as everyone converged on the centers of the galaxies. Huge missed opportunity, that judging by Sean's contradictions on this topic over the years was originally part of their plans as well. I'm sad that it was removed / scrapped / never actually there.
I wish more developers valued honesty greater than they do.
Th3BranMan92
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I concur. This game is best played alone naked in a bathtub, with wine and rose petals
thecouncil
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i wish i had come up with this.
The One Who Knocks
Member
This seems to be where I'm at at the moment. I don't think I'll be getting the game but between this thread and the spoiler thread when the game was released it's already delivered some incredible entertainment.
The marketing to me seems like it has been quite deceptive, but I'm quite surprised no clarification has came out at all yet.
no mans sky is a buggy game. if there are too many bugs which you have to encounter, how can you consider this game art?
iam disappointed by this game. my savegame is gone, i couldnt progress any further, and even worse= on some days i simply cant start up this fucker.
yep, this is art.
sotc is art.
ico is art
zelda
ff1-9 are art.
but this nms is no art.
ClosingADoor
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Release in 15 minutes.
Glass Shark
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Sean Murray
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Bracing for impact on PC. We'll do our best to keep servers online. Be aware there is a lot of you
11:40 AM - 12 Aug 2016
Why does it matter if the servers stay "online"?
‏@NoMansSky
Bracing for impact on PC. We'll do our best to keep servers online. Be aware there is a lot of you
11:40 AM - 12 Aug 2016
Why does it matter if the servers stay "online"?
letmetrythisname
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I think they're talking about their support page after it gets flooded with people realizing they were lied to.
ClosingADoor
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To share "moments" of course.
No clue actually, since it will just sync up later I guess? Anyway, I'll try it out tonight. Looks like a fun game.
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