diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
That's a fucking bargain considering the price of the competition at these performance levels.
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New Tesla Model S Now the Quickest Production Car in the World
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That's a fucking bargain considering the price of the competition at these performance levels.
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
No it isn't. Because for 134K you can buy a Jaguar F-Type R or Mercedes AMG GTS, which look infinitely better than a bulky sedan, have superb interiors, and will outrun a Tesla on a track and drag.
Come on, folks. Let's not get crazy.
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
I can't put my car seat in either one of those.
Also can't trudge through a snowy commute as effectively.
While that's true, shouldn't the comparison be to other high performance sedans? You know, for those who need to haul ass and a family.
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
Actually, you can. Coupes have federal requirements to have latch systems for car seats. My 350Z and 370Z had them back in the day.
But if its space you desire, a Mercedes-AMG S63 says hello. Or if you want to save some money, an Audi RS7, AMG CLS63, BMW M5, BMW M6GC, I can probably go on.
And done.
SiteSeer
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he's gone plaid
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
Actually, you can. Coupes have federal requirements to have latch systems for car seats. My 350Z and 370Z had them back in the day.
But if its space you desire, a Mercedes-AMG S63 says hello. Or if you want to save some money, an Audi RS7, AMG CLS63, BMW M5, BMW M6GC, I can probably go on.
And done.
That Mercedes is slower, more expensive, and gas powered.
I'll say it again. This Tesla is a fucking bargain.
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
Sure, but more luxurious and spacious. The rest of the lot, are better still more luxurious and certainly much faster. Especially the RS7 which is some kind of demon.
Edit: Wait isn't it another 2K to get the home charger installed? I know you can do trickle charges from your house which take hours, but still...surely that factors into the overall price of a car.
But good lord is it nice.
mmazurkiewicz
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Pretty sure the new Turbo S can go 2.5s and is a full production car as well.
Fallout-NL
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Getting a little long in the tooth with regards to looks if you ask me.
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
It can. It's disgustingly fast. It's just that Porsche underrates its performance capabilities on official material.
I agree. The rear end is hideous, at this point. Front still looks smooth, though.
katsubento
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Lol
katsubento
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Edit: nm, mistook the question
The electric cars will always have an advantage in the 0-anything thanks to the the instant torque.
However on a real track the Tesla cant run for more than a few minutes at max power unfortunately.
Slower in what sense? 0-60 isnt the be all end all. How well does the Tesla corner? How is the performance on a road that isnt just straight. How about when the Tesla isnt at Max charge?
However on a real track the Tesla cant run for more than a few minutes at max power unfortunately.
Slower in what sense? 0-60 isnt the be all end all. How well does the Tesla corner? How is the performance on a road that isnt just straight. How about when the Tesla isnt at Max charge?
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
0-60 (acceleration) is the metric Tesla out forth and the metric I am referring to.
When that asshole cuts me off on he freeway I will now be able to get a speeding ticket in record time.
Jezbollah
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TarpitCarnivore
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Buy one now and you might have it by 2019
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Souless_PJ
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Yeah I'd take the new Panamera over any sedan in the world currently.
AstroNut325
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I'll take the Model S over any sedan in the world.
Reckheim
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Same, that car is my dream family car.
Beer Monkey
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That's a zero-to-sixty that is like faster or as fast as the fastest magnetic launch roller coasters I believe.
The tires I can't even.
The tires I can't even.
It can hardly be overstated how impressive that is. Absolutely stupefying from a dig and it will likely run 10s. Germany's got like 1 lonely car in production that can match it and the 911 turbo s is 200k with a shelf masquerading as a back seat.
What I like most is that there's someone in the US doing proper engineering. The last generation has seen other manufacturers turn to AWD, dual clutch trans, rear wheel steering, and an array of other tech to push sports cars forward while our guys seem to think bolting a supercharger on is all the development sports cars need.
Here's a review of the refreshed p90d for anyone interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slvgVpVCm1U
What I like most is that there's someone in the US doing proper engineering. The last generation has seen other manufacturers turn to AWD, dual clutch trans, rear wheel steering, and an array of other tech to push sports cars forward while our guys seem to think bolting a supercharger on is all the development sports cars need.
Here's a review of the refreshed p90d for anyone interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slvgVpVCm1U
Chittagong
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Was this the big announcement Elon promised for today?
This was the new product announcement, yes. I don't think it was ever implied to be big, because the announcement was such short notice. It's pretty much what everyone was expecting.
shinshoryuken
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So a 134k car with a build quality of a 60k car....and people think its a bargain cause it can go fast 0-60?? which is a worthless stat..
People like drinking that Elon flavored kool-aid....
People like drinking that Elon flavored kool-aid....
Not to mention it doesn't handle well, either.
It's a cool car but a lot of the luster has worn off the longer I've seen them around. There are a lot of shortcomings (such as build quality) that are glossed over in favor of fairly superficial things... such as 0-60 times.
Clarkson is that you?
Don't get me wrong, I like your gusto and the general backlash in this thread. It's in stark contrast to when that minivan on stilts with ridiculous doors came out and people were about ready to sell their kids for it.
However, it's like a 70k car with an extra 70k worth of battery and motors, do you think those acceleration numbers are conjured out of nowhere? And yea, I'm sure build quality is way behind the E class. Did you expect them to match those cars on their first attempt while having a relative fraction to spend on r and d AND pack in all the breakthrough tech they have for good measure?
Look at all these correct opinions!
It really doesn't. 0-60 times are such a teeny aspect of driving. Almost meaningless, really.
Don't get me wrong, I'd be grinning ear to ear doing launches in this sucker. But it's definitely lacking in feel, handling, top end, and soul when compared to similarly priced sport sedans/coupes.
Ultrarobotninja
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QFT
shinshoryuken
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ghostofsparta
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I'd like to see this 2.5 ton car take a corner
I'll take the Kool-aid. You keep the sour grapes.
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
It actually handles very well for what it is. VERY well.
It's called center of gravity. All of the mass is at the very bottom of the car, and in the middle of the chassis, which are the two key elements of a great handling vehicle. The only thing that holds it from being a God tier handler is the weight. But 2/3 isn't bad.
This full size sedan, being propelled by laptop batteries, is top 5 in the world to 60. There's exactly one car, as far as I know, below 200k that's possibly faster through a 1/4 mile. And it's come from nowhere, from a place where we still think 700hp rental cars are cutting edge. It went on sale in 2012 and the Germans have yet to put out a competitor, Porsche was just showing off a concept car earlier this year that won't be seeing production for another year probably.
n0razi
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2.5 vs 2.9 is pretty large difference if youve ever sat in a fast car
Not to mention that no Corvette actually runs those times: http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/first-drives/reviews/a22861/2015-chevrolet-corvette-z06-first-drive-review/
3.3 and 11.5 are still very impressive, but it's worth noting that it's a manual car with 650 hp and 650lbs of twist and a very conventional rwd set up. In other words, you would need a near perfect launch to see that 3.3. Back in the day, the 505hp c6 z06 would regularly see the same or marginally faster numbers than 430hp ls3 base corvettes because a lot of those had autos(torque converter autos at that) and were generally easier to launch. So you would get a 11.7 car that would normally go about 12.2 on your local drag strip.
The Tesla is stomp and go as far as I can work out(so are the Porsches and GTRs).
3.3 and 11.5 are still very impressive, but it's worth noting that it's a manual car with 650 hp and 650lbs of twist and a very conventional rwd set up. In other words, you would need a near perfect launch to see that 3.3. Back in the day, the 505hp c6 z06 would regularly see the same or marginally faster numbers than 430hp ls3 base corvettes because a lot of those had autos(torque converter autos at that) and were generally easier to launch. So you would get a 11.7 car that would normally go about 12.2 on your local drag strip.
The Tesla is stomp and go as far as I can work out(so are the Porsches and GTRs).
shinshoryuken
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you're more edgy than lambo styling
psssh...lambo's are door wedge with wheels..
I'll take a capri sun..
um...like I said, I think 0-60 is a worthless stat. Even on sportcars..so more so in sedans..
GT4 is one of the best sport car ever made and it's a sub 4sec 0-60
even the greatest sport car ever made the f40 is a sub 4sec..
even the GT-R I don't find its 0-60 that impressive cause it's only ok on a roll..it's handling is more impressive.
Plus having to do the contra cheat code to do a launch control....ain't nobody got time for that...
not much will..
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