BossDarkseid
Member
Do we know about ventilation on it? I know it's a little too soon but with it being 2cm wider + deeper (I believe) and apparently having no back vents, just curious.
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PS4 Pro: The Ultimate FAQ
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H.Cornerstone
Member
Weird question but not sure where to ask it.
Is it possible we'll get better PC Ports now that Developers have to do multiple/better versions anyways with the way MSFT and Sony are going?
Is it possible we'll get better PC Ports now that Developers have to do multiple/better versions anyways with the way MSFT and Sony are going?
gregor7777
Banned
How is that possible if the game doesn't have dynamic resoloution?
Dr. Black Jack
Member
Good stuff. If FFXV gets a huge bump I might consider it and make my current PS4 a FFXIV machine for my wife.
crazyivan19
Member
I'm typically not savvy about these things, I'll be honest. But if I am understanding this process, would it look like this:
1) Remove PS4 Pro HDD and put it into an external enclosure.
2) Use that enclosure to backup my current vanilla PS4 (after removing enough stuff to get it to fit on to a 1TB drive).
3) Take out my 2TB drive from the vanilla PS4 and install it in the new Pro.
4) Let the PS4 Pro initialize the 2TB drive.
5) Use the enclosed 1TB drive to restore the PS4 Pro.
Is that about right? If so, can anyone verify whether that would work or not? The idea of having to redownload my entire library is a serious deterrent for me. This method is a few extra steps, but doesn't seem terribly cumbersome.
According to this, sub 1080p games on PS4 run at full 1080p regardless of if they are patched or not, so the GPU is doing work even on its own. CPU wise,who knows
I think the big thing to take away from this is that there's native 1080p across the board with higher/more stable framerates or the ability for improved graphics. I don't think almost anyone on this board gives a single shit about 4K, honestly, who has or can afford a 4K TV/monitor? And if you can, you're probably already a PC gamer and only have a PS4 for console exclusives.
FunkyDealer
Banned
So, does the PS4 Pro output at 4096 x 2160 or 3840 X 2160?
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Deleted member 471617
Unconfirmed Member
Here's a question - does the Pro support SATA III?
Yeah you can see the HDD bay on the back
xXCrazyCostaXX
Member
Question
I have a 2tb ps4. I will be moving it to the bedroom. I'll be buying the Pro for the living room. If I put a 2tb drive in the pro when I buy it, can I do the transfer and keep stuff on both?
Basically I does the transfer delete it off the other
I have a 2tb ps4. I will be moving it to the bedroom. I'll be buying the Pro for the living room. If I put a 2tb drive in the pro when I buy it, can I do the transfer and keep stuff on both?
Basically I does the transfer delete it off the other
Neuromancer
Member
Are we sure I can't just grab my current 2TB HDD out of my current PS4 and throw it into my new Pro? Because that would be maximum convenience.
BossDarkseid
Member
I think they said you can transfer the data between 2 PS4s. I think it's kinda like how you could transfer stuff for the N3DS? Not 100% sure but I think you should be fine. WOuld still make sure cloud saves etc are up to date
I'm just looking for some clarification about a few things.
Games running in '4k mode' - will they still reap the same benefits as those running in 1080 mode? Or will they essentially be the non-improved game upscaled to 4k with some smoothing? Or will it be something in between?
If i'm on a 4k tv, can i tell the playstation to just run at 1080 mode, in the event that the 1080 version of a game is better than the 4k version? Or will this be on a game-by-game basis?
Basically - is ps4 pro better on a 1080p tv? It's sounding like it. Sure you get it upscaled and hdr on a 4k tv, but you get ACTUAL graphical/performance improvements in 1080, which sounds way way way better to me.
Games running in '4k mode' - will they still reap the same benefits as those running in 1080 mode? Or will they essentially be the non-improved game upscaled to 4k with some smoothing? Or will it be something in between?
If i'm on a 4k tv, can i tell the playstation to just run at 1080 mode, in the event that the 1080 version of a game is better than the 4k version? Or will this be on a game-by-game basis?
Basically - is ps4 pro better on a 1080p tv? It's sounding like it. Sure you get it upscaled and hdr on a 4k tv, but you get ACTUAL graphical/performance improvements in 1080, which sounds way way way better to me.
BossDarkseid
Member
...that almost makes it look like it's a pull out, swap, pop back in.
Man can dream...
xXCrazyCostaXX
Member
I got that part. I'm asking if it would delete it off the previous console or if it will be copying it over so I can have everything on both consoles
My guess is it depends on what the game is and its capabilities. You have games like Hyper Light Drifter or Cosmic Star Heroine that won't really benefit except perhaps from a "well, you should display like this in 4K" mode if it'll be messed up in upscaling, but then you have games that may be wrecked at 4K like Lords of the Fallen and AC Unity, yet could benefit from at least using the extra GPU power to run smoother, so you just enable it to at least use that power (I'd think and hope anyway. Kind of how it is on PC.)
Tarnpanzer
Member
How could this even work? So even old games like Battlefield 4 in 1080p? Would be awesome, but I doubt it...
xemumanic
Member
Q: Does PS4 Pro support High Dynamic Range (HDR)?
Yes, PS4 Pro is fully compatible with the HDR10 specification at launch. HDR10 is a widely supported HDR format embraced by major entertainment companies.
Q: Will PS4 Pro include support for Dolby Vision HDR?
There are currently no plans to support Dolby Vision.
Just like I thought. HDR10 is the standard, so that's what they are going with, just like Microsoft did with the XB1S.
Yes, PS4 Pro is fully compatible with the HDR10 specification at launch. HDR10 is a widely supported HDR format embraced by major entertainment companies.
Q: Will PS4 Pro include support for Dolby Vision HDR?
There are currently no plans to support Dolby Vision.
Just like I thought. HDR10 is the standard, so that's what they are going with, just like Microsoft did with the XB1S.
Karspankey
Banned
Some games will be in native 4K, yes.
That is a good news
AngelOFDeath
Member
I can't be certain, but I think it's the only way to get the 2TB from vanilla onto the Pro without sacrificing time downloading everything.
Hawk269
Member
if the development patches it. it is up.to the dev, the console won't do it on its own.
werd...
Complicated
Banned
So they're already walking back that ridiculous talk about restricting framerates in multiplayer games. Though it's vague and wishy washy language.
Bl@de
Member
Wait a second.
You're right. The back vents of the OG PS4 are missing. Only the small intake holes are there.
Uh oh...
Or is Sony going all in with a large heatsink for silent/semi-passive cooling? ..... naaaaaaaaaaaaaah
Wouldn't surprise me. They've saved money since the PS3 on using SATA2, so why stop now?
Large storage SSDs are still prohibitively expensive compared to the price of the consoles. Even though I'd love to throw in a 2TB SSD, it doesn't make much sense.
Nitty_Grimes
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
Can you still upgrade the hard drive yourself?
Will it accept any larger hard drives or still stuck at the 2.5 inch / 2tb sizes?
Will it accept any larger hard drives or still stuck at the 2.5 inch / 2tb sizes?
BossDarkseid
Member
Nitty_Grimes
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
Or crash because its a different chipset than what the original code was programmed for perhaps?
CyberChulo
Member
I'm gonna take a guess and say no because
A) There's some sort of signature when the HD was formatted on that PS4. Putting it into another PS4 let alone PS4P won't recognize it and ask you to format it.
B) On the PS4P FAQ, it says you can transfer your contents from PS4 to PS4P with an ethernet cable.
My personal bombshell:
As someone who has to live with a very restrictive bandwidth cap and 2 ps4s, the ability to download a ps4 game onto one system and then transfer to the other is amazing.
I mean, it should have been there with the launch ps4, but I'm happy it's happening.
As someone who has to live with a very restrictive bandwidth cap and 2 ps4s, the ability to download a ps4 game onto one system and then transfer to the other is amazing.
I mean, it should have been there with the launch ps4, but I'm happy it's happening.
As far as I understand, this is the best way to do it if you don't have a spare 1TB+ external lying around. This will be what I do as well, using the enclosure I have from the 2TB drive I originally put in my PS4.
I'm not sure that is what you're thinking. It's more of a backup transfer service, not a method for transferring downloads from one to the other whenever you get a new game. But I haven't messed with it even though I'm in the firmware beta, so I could be wrong.
Nitty_Grimes
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
Mint. Thank you sir.
crazyivan19
Member
Well... not ideal, but doesn't sound too terrible. Here's hoping it works out this way.
BossDarkseid
Member
Do we know if the HDR enabling update next week is SFW 4.0? Need dem folders.
Shin-Ra
Junior Member
Exhaust holes are there if you look closely. Hidden just like the intakes on other models.
Bl@de
Member
Exhaust holes are there if you look closely. Hidden just like the intakes on other models.
Very optimistic holes for a machine that needs more W and has basically the same case. Very optimstic. Sure hope they have a good heatsink.
RedAssedApe
Banned
will upscaling blurays make them look better?
never understood the concept when some dvd players would do it
never understood the concept when some dvd players would do it
The Hamburglar
Banned
my biggest question is and I know it has probably been asked but it seems conflicting information given EG has claimed a game will be native.
Are the 4k games really native or are they just 1080p up-scaled? If so, wtf is the point?
and it literally looks like 2 ps4s duct taped together lmao.
Are the 4k games really native or are they just 1080p up-scaled? If so, wtf is the point?
and it literally looks like 2 ps4s duct taped together lmao.
Some are native some are up-scaled but with a Sony patented hardware solution afaik
BossDarkseid
Member
Some games will be native 4k, others will use different methods to display, since a lot of people might buy a Pro for the extra power but not have a 4k tv (either futureproofing for when they do or being like me and soon in need of a new Ps4) devs can detect if you have your PS4 hooked up to an HD/1080 tv or a 4k/HDR .