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Russian hackers leak Simone Biles and Serena Williams files

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Wafflecakes

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Herbspiceguy said:
I was kinda hoping the harsh stance towards Russia and doping would result in a backfire like this. Always suspected most top level sporters are involved in doping and thought it's hypocritical to point the fingers at Russia.
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Did you bother to even read the thread/article?

It isn't a backfire when the Athletes had permission to use the substance because they went through proper channels, which almost surely involves obtaining proof of their conditions.
 
Grizzlyjin

Grizzlyjin

Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
darscot said:
I'm not saying anyone did anything wrong until more information. That being said if some quack Doctor gave Simone some BS medical condition to let her take PEDs then I consider that cheating. If she has a medical exemption for allergy meds then no harm no foul.
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If people could get some "quack doctor" to sign off on PEDs and all you had to do was disclose it, everyone would do it.
 
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CelticKnight

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Hackers and leaks? At least it's not nudes...

If they were allowed to take stuff for medical reasons then there's nothing to see here.
 
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cdyhybrid

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Euphor!a said:
Great, now unless you can tell me that what they were on wasn't a PED that might be relevant.
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If you want to assume they're doping with zero proof and/or that the governing bodies of the Olympics and professional tennis are in on it that's your prerogative, Sharapova. Keep fighting the good fight.
 
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Euphor!a

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cdyhybrid said:
If you want to assume they're doping with zero proof and/or that the governing bodies of the Olympics and professional tennis are in on it that's your prerogative, Sharapova. Keep fighting the good fight.
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I mean, the proof is the article. Unless you are saying that the leak is illegitimate, which is fine and might be the case.
 
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painey

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whenever something gets "hacked" and they drip release the information, the follow ups are usually never as interesting. We'll probably find out the Ukrainian #3 in the world discus thrower was also exempt.
 
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Cybit

FGC Waterboy
Htown said:
So they had access to the whole database and released exactly three files?

Seems like a good way to make something innocuous and common look scandalous.
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<sigh> read the article people.

The World Anti-Doping Agency (Wada) has condemned Russian hackers for leaking confidential medical files of US Olympic athletes.

Athletes affected include tennis players Venus and Serena Williams and teenage gymnast Simone Biles.
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They released the database for a bunch of olympic athletes. Williams and Biles were two of the darlings in the Olympics, hence why they are used as examples. It's a revenge hack for the Olympics going after Russian athletes for doping. They think WADA is playing favorites with Americans in terms of allowing exemptions.
 
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darscot

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Grizzlyjin said:
If people could get some "quack doctor" to sign off on PEDs and all you had to do was disclose it, everyone would do it.
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If Simone was taking oxycodone, as a gymnast I would consider that cheating. The pain and recovery in gymnastics is insane and being able to take that would be a huge advantage. Like I said though I will not pass any judgement until its public knowledge what she was taking and I am not going to look at her medical records.
 
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Yiazmat

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https://twitter.com/USAGym/status/775764376485638144
 
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Cybit

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Reason for the hack

Russia's track and field team were banned from the Rio Olympics over an alleged state-backed doping programme. All of its athletes are barred from the ongoing Paralympics.

"Let it be known that these criminal acts are greatly compromising the effort by the global anti-doping community to re-establish trust in Russia," Wada director-general Olivier Niggli said.

US Anti-Doping Agency chief Travis Tygart called the hack "cowardly and despicable".

"In each of the situations, the athlete has done everything right in adhering to the global rules for obtaining permission to use a needed medication," he said.

The US Olympic Committee has had "zero adverse findings from the Rio Olympic Games that weren't 100% within the medical guidelines set forth by anti-doping authorities," spokesman Patrick Sandusky said.

Earlier this month, Mr Niggli said Wada was experiencing almost daily cyber attacks originating from Russia.

Fancy Bears, which is also known as Tsar Team (APT28), has pledged to release confidential records from other national Olympic teams.
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Jawbreaker

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Palette Swap said:
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Obviously, white people don't do doping, duh.
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Except they weren't the only two who were targeted, rather the ones being used as examples because they're the biggest names. I was trying to figure out what all the posts on the first page were going on about, but then I remembered a lot of people don't actually read the articles posted.
 
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The Beard

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Palette Swap said:
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Obviously, white people don't do doping, duh.
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As if these Russian hackers would'nt have absolutely jizzed in their pants if they saw Michael Phelps or Katie Ledecky on that list.

But yeah, they were probably on the list too but the hackers are keeping it quiet because they're white athletes.
 
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beasty

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USADA has alot of prohibited substances that people commonly take. Lots of cold medicine are prohibited by USADA.
 
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cdyhybrid

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Euphor!a said:
I mean, the proof is the article. Unless you are saying that the leak is illegitimate, which is fine and might be the case.
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I read them both - there was one mention of a treatment for ADHD (which, again, is perfectly fine and allowed as long as you follow proper protocol) and nothing else. So I'm wondering where you're seeing this supposed proof.
 
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Slayven

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Jawbreaker said:
Except they weren't the only two who were targeted, rather the ones being used as examples because they're the biggest names. I was trying to figure out what all the posts on the first page were going on about, but then I remembered a lot of people don't actually read the articles posted.
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micheal phelps, most decorated Olympian of all time must have 2 step verification.
 
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Blader

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Euphor!a said:
I find it funny people actually buy this. That these "conditions" are so severe and legitimate yet they can somehow compete as world-class athletes in the mean time as long as you give them the a-ok to use illegal drugs.
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Being a world-class athlete does not mean your body is invulnerable to any and all conditions. Simone Biles being an uber accomplished gymnast does mean it is impossible for her to have ADHD.
 
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daxy

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So people with a medical condition are allowed to have an advantage over those who don't? That's nice.
 
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Joni

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Blader said:
You don't have a clue of what you're talking about. Being a world-class athlete does not mean your body is invulnerable to any and all conditions.
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I'd even say that pushing your body to its limits all the time makes you more suspectible for diseases.
 
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KingSnake

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Yiazmat said:
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ADHD - that life threatening disease that require medication in time for Olympics. (edited: this is sarcasm. Sarcasm is often expressed by exaggerating a real situation to make a point)

Being legal doesn't always make it fair or moral. (edited because it was poorly formulated based on the angry answers it got, check one more post further down the line)
 
Grizzlyjin

Grizzlyjin

Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
darscot said:
If Simone was taking oxycodone, as a gymnast I would consider that cheating. The pain and recovery in gymnastics is insane and being able to take that would be a huge advantage. Like I said though I will not pass any judgement until its public knowledge what she was taking and I am not going to look at her medical records.
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The standard isn't what you consider to be a PED, there is an entire agency that determines that. What about Ritalin and Adderall, does being more attentive give them an advantage by your standard? They didn't violate any rules and disclosed everything, there really isn't any smoking gun or "the jury is still out" moment here...not really sure what you're expecting.
 
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Nafai1123

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daxy said:
So people with a medical condition are allowed to have an advantage over those who don't? That's nice.
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If by advantage you mean they are able to treat their medical condition while still competing in the sport they love, then yes.
 
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cdyhybrid

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KingSnake said:
ADHD - that life threatening disease that require medication in time for Olympics.

If everything is legal doesn't make it also fair or moral.
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These have been the rules for years, if not decades, and they're the same for everyone.

Where have you been?
 
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Poltergust

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ITT: People fail to realize the purpose of medication.

(Hint: It's not to give an advantage to people with conditions over healthy people.)
 
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