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[Dacvak]

Bundles?
It really blows my mind how many people here are expecting a bundled game with the Switch. Like, MAYBE a Nintendoland type of game, but there is no chance whatsoever that Nintendo would even consider packing in Mario Kart or literally anything else that could/would sell on its own. Give that thought up because it's simply not going to happen. It would make no sense for Nintendo.

Price?
Additionally, it really surprises me how many people think the Switch will be ~$299. The minimum I think it'll be is $349 with smart money saying it'll be $399 for a base model and $449 for a large storage model. Yes, this is a Nintendo system, but it's also a tablet, and it wouldn't surprise me if they attempted to price it in tablet range. I would be pleased as punch if it were $299, but I'm not holding my breath.

Backwards compatibility?
There's a 0% chance the Switch will be backwards compatible with the Wii U or the 3DS. It's simply not going to happen. First off, there's no way to have dual-screen gaming a la Wii U, nor is there a way to have touch screen gaming while playing on a TV. And 3DS? I don't think there's anyone here who actually believes this was a possibility, but it's worth mentioning it absolutely won't happen. Instead, we'll get a select number of Wii U games that get ported throughout the life cycle of the Switch, and we'll probably get a lot to Virtual Console stuff right out of the gate. MAYBE even GameCube Virtual Console, though I significantly doubt it.

And what about Wii and DS virtual console? Possible, but unlikely. The Switch will almost certainly not ship with a sensor bar (as noted in the reveal video) which is required for Wii games. Even if the Switch was able to connect with a Wiimote (which isn't that far fetched), Wii virtual console would likely be out of the question due to logistics. DS is similar. While, yes, you could theoretically play DS games on a Switch tablet, it hardly seems ideal. And keep in mind that the DS touch screen was design for stylus use, and if the Switch has a touch screen it'll almost certainly be capacitive. Playing DS games on the Switch (if they require touch) would be a very similar experience to playing DS games on an Android phone, which isn't great. Overall, I do not think the Switch will have any form of backward compatibility, and it'll have prettt limited Virtual Console support (probably the same support the Wii U has, sans DS).

Hopes and dreams.
I already freaking love the Switch. Assuming it'll play most/all games on the tablet at a constant frame rate (ideally 60), I don't care if it has the same graphical performance of the Wii U. That being said, I REEEAAAALLLLY hope there is additional processing power in the dock. Yeah, it's not super practical from an engineering or development standpoint, but damn it would still be cool.

I'm also hoping the rumors of 32gb storage simply aren't true. If there isn't a model with at least 128gb storage I'm gonna be pissed. Or at least the option to upgrade via Micro SD.

Finally, I'm really hoping there will be swappable Joy-Con controllers for the Switch. I would LOVE to use a GameCube controller layout-style Joy-Con with the Switch, especially for a game like Smash. Plus, I just really miss octagonal analog sticks.

 

[Terrell]

I feel like I should mention that basically nothing in the Splatoon footage was taken directly from the Wii U game. The gear and weapons pretty much all had significant design tweks and even the spawn pad looked substantially different. If no one was going around saying Splatoon Switch was a port, I kind of doubt anyone would assume that's what it was.

Except that's exactly what's been said. Splatoon has been part of the "enhanced ports" talk since the leak from... was it Emily Rogers? The only one that wasn't present in the Switch presentation that confirms all the games spoken of was Smash.

I am really curious what happens with AA now.

The series no longer justifies physical release in America. Pretty much every game gets ported to the iPhone if it comes west. Capcom has doubled down on the Japanese audience and is mostly just creating games for them now, as DGS2 tells us. AA6 was miles ahead of 5 in budget, probably because they thought the anime would flow popularity upward, but instead it sold the worst of the series in the last ten years.

Maybe it just goes mobile- or Japan-only.

AA6 was such a departure in mood from all the other AAs except AA x Layton, so that could definitely have contributed to its poor sales numbers.

I'd say that Capcom may keep its current trajectory of digital releases in the US and physical releases in Japan, both at a lower retail price, at least for now. I think there's still life in the series, but the lengths it went to recently to rejuvenate it were... well, I can't speak for others, but it fell very flat for me.

 

[BronzeWolf]

No way the Switch is more expensive that $299 unbundled. Nintendo knows they fucked up with the Wii U. They will probably sell at a cost, or with slim profit

 

[Sammy Samusu]

AA is dying of old age. It was bound to happen.

What Capcom needs to do is to create a new adventure IP. They tried with Ghost Trick but that gamedidnt connect with people (a shame).

 

[Roo]

Price?
Additionally, it really surprises me how many people think the Switch will be ~$299. The minimum I think it'll be is $349 with smart money saying it'll be $399 for a base model and $449 for a large storage model. Yes, this is a Nintendo system, but it's also a tablet, and it wouldn't surprise me if they attempted to price it in tablet range. I would be pleased as punch if it were $299, but I'm not holding my breath.

There's literally no way it's going to be over $350. You are absolutely crazy lol

 

[Shiggy]

Price?
Additionally, it really surprises me how many people think the Switch will be ~$299. The minimum I think it'll be is $349 with smart money saying it'll be $399 for a base model and $449 for a large storage model. Yes, this is a Nintendo system, but it's also a tablet, and it wouldn't surprise me if they attempted to price it in tablet range. I would be pleased as punch if it were $299, but I'm not holding my breath.

No way it's gonna be 299, that's already too much as even Nintendo acknowledged.

 

[Not]

It should be under Wii U. 299 sounds right, but I still wouldn't be surprised at 349 or even 399.

 

[Terrell]

Bundles?
It really blows my mind how many people here are expecting a bundled game with the Switch. Like, MAYBE a Nintendoland type of game, but there is no chance whatsoever that Nintendo would even consider packing in Mario Kart or literally anything else that could/would sell on its own. Give that thought up because it's simply not going to happen. It would make no sense for Nintendo.

Pack-in games are typically games that would sell well in their own right, always. Wii Sports certainly did in Japan. And most pack-in games available at launch throughout the industry's history were, as well. That's... kind of the point of why they're there.

Backwards compatibility?
There's a 0% chance the Switch will be backwards compatible with the Wii U or the 3DS. It's simply not going to happen. First off, there's no way to have dual-screen gaming a la Wii U, nor is there a way to have touch screen gaming while playing on a TV.

This is likely why the greatest hits are coming from Wii U to Switch in the first place.

And what about Wii and DS virtual console? Possible, but unlikely. The Switch will almost certainly not ship with a sensor bar (as noted in the reveal video) which is required for Wii games. Even if the Switch was able to connect with a Wiimote (which isn't that far fetched), Wii virtual console would likely be out of the question due to logistics. DS is similar. While, yes, you could theoretically play DS games on a Switch tablet, it hardly seems ideal. And keep in mind that the DS touch screen was design for stylus use, and if the Switch has a touch screen it'll almost certainly be capacitive. Playing DS games on the Switch (if they require touch) would be a very similar experience to playing DS games on an Android phone, which isn't great. Overall, I do not think the Switch will have any form of backward compatibility, and it'll have prettt limited Virtual Console support (probably the same support the Wii U has, sans DS).

For all the bluster, DS's biggest games didn't really use the touch screen much. And aside from the Wii series of games, most Wii titles didn't use IR pointer controls. So while you are right in that the catalog may be limited, a very huge chunk of the library will absolutely be there.

 

[Pancake Mix]

Yeah, the DS/3DS line is definitely going to die with Switch coming, unfortunately. Expect some enhanced ports of Wii U games though...for full price or close to it.

How backwards compatibility is...not handled is probably the most depressing thing about this. Every applicable Nintendo handheld and the last 2 Nintendo consoles had backwards compatibility (except some really late revisions like Game Boy Micro and DSi).

As such 2017 will definitely be the last full year of 3DS releases. People mock the third pillar of GBA, but 3DS will make its support after release look superior for sure.

 

[sanstesy]

No way it's gonna be 299, that's already too much as even Nintendo acknowledged.

Where did they acknowledge that again?

 

[Pancake Mix]

No way it's gonna be 299, that's already too much as even Nintendo acknowledged.

First off, where? Was that something Iwata said around 2013 or 2014? Not sure if it applies now.

Regardless, they said they're not selling Switch at a loss, did they not? WIi U was one. Even with a crazy deal costs could be pretty high at launch, so I'm betting on $299 US.

 

[tebunker]

Price?
Additionally, it really surprises me how many people think the Switch will be ~$299. The minimum I think it'll be is $349 with smart money saying it'll be $399 for a base model and $449 for a large storage model. Yes, this is a Nintendo system, but it's also a tablet, and it wouldn't surprise me if they attempted to price it in tablet range. I would be pleased as punch if it were $299, but I'm not holding my breath.

This, this made me ignore everything else you wrote. Lile you have no idea what you're talking about.

Nvidia Shield Tablet with 8" 1080p screen

Let that soak in. Think about what you typed. Go on. The NS is going to be a reconfigured Shield type device. This thing for $200 has a similar processor, and a bigger higher res screen.

Nintendo is making tweaks here and there to this basic premise, and adding joycons, dock and grip, which none of that will be astronomical to produce. Switch could theoretically be as inexpensive as $200 but most likely is $249 and possibly $299 depending on what all is in the box, like bundled software.

Nintendo has gone on record stating they know that pricing has been an issue and they understand expectations. This was in a recent Kimishima interview with WSJ.

 

[James Scott]

No way it's $499. I'd be shocked if it's over $299

 

[Shiggy]

Where did they acknowledge that again?

They said price was a big issue with Wii U. No way they gonna make the same mistake again. PS4 and X1 are already far below 299€. With inferior hardware and fewer games, they will not price the Switch out of the market.

 

[I Wanna Be The Guy]

I still maintain that Switch will be 250 max, and that's with a pack in new IP. But I wouldn't be surprised if they went for the killer punch even lower than that.

 

[Speely]

$299 with a pack-in. Ship it.

 

[AzaK]

Ultimately it is Nintendo's Goal to get the 10M Wii U owners to Buy the NS as quickly as possible to build momentum and an install base large enough to warant continued 3rd party support

Unless those 10m buy the Switch within the first 2 months it's not going to really help. They need to get the other 60m "core" gamers out there (Who own PS4 and XBO) to buy a Switch. Then add in any casuals they can get.

I still maintain that Switch will be 250 max, and that's with a pack in new IP. But I wouldn't be surprised if they went for the killer punch even lower than that.

You realise that the cheaper they go means they worse specs we end up with.

 

[Terrell]

You are really comparing apples to oranges. You echo NLSU, but you don't remind yourself that it was a same hardware DLC (also released as a standalone), with zero new assets besides minor title screen / UI changes.

With the multiplayer games getting ported, packed in with the dlc?, maintaining an online server, and ostensibly updated with more contents and enhancements, it's nothing like NLSU.

You can't exactly say it's nothing like NSLU.

MK8 especially has already made Nintendo their money back on the 8 million copies it's sold. DLC has also made them bank. I can't imagine things are much different with Splatoon and Smash in that regard.

So whatever they sell these newer versions for will likely be enough to cover costs of enhancements that would require a much lower volume of work product and make them an additional tidy profit at bare minimum.

The online services for the Wii U versions will likely be shut down at some point in the (not too distant) future, so it's not as if the cost doubles up somehow.

People talk big about "opportunity cost" in Nintendo threads when talking about 3rd-parties, but that same discussion applies to Nintendo, as well.

Does the goodwill they earn from prior fans selling at a lower price to get them to re-buy and new buyers on top of that offset what they would lose out on selling at a much higher price and potentially alienating a re-purchase from the 8 million or so who already bought the game, who might be sour enough to pass on buying a Switch at launch in the process?

If both options still make them money regardless, the most logical choice in my mind is the former, not the latter. There's no reason to run the risk of making Wii U owners feel penalized into full price double-dipping simply because they weren't willing to wait 5 years for Nintendo to get their shit together with a piece of hardware that was more widely compelling, especially when either option has a positive financial gain for a much reduced amount of work involved.

 

[sonto340]

For all the bluster, DS's biggest games didn't really use the touch screen much. And aside from the Wii series of games, most Wii titles didn't use IR pointer controls. So while you are right in that the catalog may be limited, a very huge chunk of the library will absolutely be there.

If it can't play Mario galaxy they arent going to sell Wii games on this thing.

 

[sanstesy]

They said price was a big issue with Wii U. No way they gonna make the same mistake again. PS4 and X1 are already far below 299€. With inferior hardware and fewer games, they will not price the Switch out of the market.

Oh, so they actually didn't acknowledge it. Then please don't act surprised when it's priced at $299.

 

[marmoka]

My hopes are 250 euros maximum, with a game included, like Breath of the Wild or the new Mario.

 

[Brenal]

Oh, so they actually didn't acknowledge it. Then please don't act surprised when it's priced at $299.

It was acknowledge here by Miyamoto himself and here is the thread with the exact quote[url=http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1068548[/url]

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

Looks like tantalus is working on switch afterall.. please be a prime hd

 

[MouldyK]

All I really want from Splatoon 1.5/Re-Loaded/Rebirth/1.8: Final Chapter Prologue is Split-Screen Online.

Without the use of Gyro anymore (RIP Best Controls) and with the Map no longer on a seperate screen, it's time to bring Splatoon up to the Holy Table of Local Online Play with the likes of Mario Kart, Smash (which also needs to have more than 2 vs 2 Teams for Fun while we are at it) and Halo: The Master Chief Collection

Spoiler

343i better have it in Halo 6 aswell

.

Looks like tantalus is working on switch afterall.. please be a prime hd

Skyward Sword HD inbound, guys! There's a 75% chance we could have the best Zelda in HD, Master!

 

[sanstesy]

It was acknowledge here by Miyamoto himself and here is the thread with the exact quote[url=http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1068548[/url]

And if you read that interview a bit further you will find this important quote:

So I don't think it's just price, because if the system is appealing enough, people will buy it even if the price is a little bit high.

He only acknowledged that the Wii U specifically was priced higher than they would have liked.

 

[ggx2ac]

Looks like tantalus is working on switch afterall.. please be a prime hd

I may as well post it here too in case no one notices in the other thread.

Saw Vooks retweet this.

In a new interview with fellow Australian site Maxi-Geek, Tantalus CEO Tom Crago has confirmed the team are working on the Switch;

"I can confirm that we’re working on Switch, and have been for some time. Our titles haven’t been announced as yet, but keep an eye out for more news soon."

http://www.vooks.net/twilight-princess-hd-developer-tantalus-working-nintendo-switch/

Funky Barn returns!? Maybe they're doing ports like with the Wii U launch of Mass Effect 3.

Edit: Also from the link.

We’ve always worked on Nintendo platforms and now of course after Twilight Princess HD our relationship with Nintendo is stronger than ever. I expect fans will look back through Nintendo’s catalogue and think about which titles they’d like us to bring to Switch. Everyone should feel free to make suggestions on our FaceBook page

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=223334843

 

[Deleted member 465307]

I may as well post it here too in case no one notices in the other thread.



http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=223334843

Ooooo. If they could do it justice and with the absolute utmost care, I'd be happy with a Prime Trilogy remaster. I would really not be surprised if they're currently handling the inevitable Skyward Sword HD, though that definitely seems like a game to release in 2018 or 2019.

Hmm...what else could they be making? Galaxy HD collection? Ports of the 3DS N64 remakes to Switch? I'm trying to think of what gems Nintendo has left behind in SD. I'd say maybe F-Zero GX, but I'd rather we get a new game. Fire Emblem: The Tellius Collection would be wonderful.

 

[ggx2ac]

Ooooo. If they could do it justice and with the absolute utmost care, I'd be okay with a Prime Trilogy remaster. I would really not be surprised if they're currently handling the inevitable Skyward Sword HD, though that definitely seems like a game to release in 2018 or 2019. Hmm...what else could they be making? Galaxy HD collection? Ports of the 3DS N64 remakes to Switch? I'm trying to think of what gems Nintendo has left behind in SD.

Ah new thread got created for it now.

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1309247

 

[TwEE-N-Toast]

Price?
Additionally, it really surprises me how many people think the Switch will be ~$299. The minimum I think it'll be is $349 with smart money saying it'll be $399 for a base model and $449 for a large storage model. Yes, this is a Nintendo system, but it's also a tablet, and it wouldn't surprise me if they attempted to price it in tablet range. I would be pleased as punch if it were $299, but I'm not holding my breath.

That thing would be DOA if they were insane enough to try push it at these prices. They are in no position to be this arrogant.

$249-$299 with a bundle is what they should be shooting for.

 

[jdstorm]

Unless those 10m buy the Switch within the first 2 months it's not going to really help. They need to get the other 60m "core" gamers out there (Who own PS4 and XBO) to buy a Switch. Then add in any casuals they can.

Thats the idea. Get your dedicated consumer on board as quickly as possible, in order to build an install base that 3rd parties cant ignore. Then keep building your library with a flood of origional nintendo games going forward.

 

[KingSnake]

The minimum I think it'll be is $349 with smart money saying it'll be $399 for a base model and $449 for a large storage model.

Do you hate Nintendo?

 

[cordonbleu]

There was a rumour about EA demanding that Nintendo consider third party pack ins for their support. I don't recall if it was debunked or not.

One road Nintendo could go down to build substantial third party relationships as well as a third party game enjoying demographic on the console would be;

Launch
-Console with game $299 equivalent
Games could be FIFA, Skyrim, Watch Dogs,

-Console Standalone $279 equivalent

Launch with $59 equivalent software

- Zelda
- Splatoon
- New Nintendo IP

April

- Mario Kart

May

- Super Smash Bros

June

- Mario 128 or equivalent

 

[EVH]

All the remasters/relaunches for the games we saw in the presentation, should be 30 bucks and branded as some kind of "basics" games. Perfect chance for someone buying the console on day one that didnt have a WiiU. If they want new games, one got Zelda or Mario.

 

[Deleted member 465307]

All the remasters/relaunches for the games we saw in the presentation, should be 30 bucks and branded as some kind of "basics" games. Perfect chance for someone buying the console on day one that didnt have a WiiU. If they want new games, one got Zelda or Mario.

I'm not sure how the amount of required work varies between these projects, but looking at TPHD and WWHD being $50, I don't think you'll see these ports for less than $50 if they have the content being hinted at. If Nintendo adds new courses, characters, and mechanics to Mario Kart 8 and new maps, items, graphics, and options to Splatoon, these would seem to be full-fledged Version 1.5s or even 2.0s. If they're that, I really can't see Nintendo going lower than $50.

But it's really hard for me to say exactly what these versions could/should be priced at before knowing what these games even are. Depending on how much content is added and how graphics have been updated, I could see these packages ranging from $30 (like you said) to $60.

 

[orioto]

So i see everyone is discussing bundles and seeing nintendo games packed in.

But we're all forgetting Nintendo's blue ocean ambition and need. They would have not sold that many wiis with mario instead of wii sport in the bundle. There has to be something we're not seeing here.

 

[Starchasing]

So i see everyone is discussing bundles and seeing nintendo games packed in.

But we're all forgetting Nintendo's blue ocean ambition and need. They would have not sold that many wiis with mario instead of wii sport in the bundle. There has to be something we're not seeing here.

They will bundle a compilation of simple game that sells the main idea of Switch: local multiplayer everywhere. This would add value to the console and act as a viral marketing device.

Something like Wii Play, which sold like 50 million units.

They could use as characters either Miis or Nintendo IP.

 

[Aostia]

I wonder why you are so worried about that small league games are coming to the switch?

Like, where else would they go to?

Mario and Luigi
Fire Emblem
Pokemon
Zelda
Monolith
Pikmin

Those ARE coming, and I think sooner rather than later

Ace Attorney
Atlus
Level 5

Where else can they go? Do you think we'll see an ace attorney on PS4? They are coming! Also, what do you mean about confirmation of a hybrid. You need to be more specific about your expectations, because then it's just cynism on your part.



He thinks Nintendo has been fucking the chicken for 2 years straight.

Nintendo on January 12th: "LOL WE'VE GOT NO NEW GAMES TO SHOW SORRY OUR BAD, ENJOY ZELDA, MARIO KART, SMASH AND SPLATOON: TOONED TOONS, BUHBYE"

How can I get more specific?
Hybrid to me means that they actually will merge the software lineups/efforts into one console (OS, hardware family, whatever: so far we've got only that form factor of the Switch, so I tend to focus only on that.)

I'm not expecting that they will present zelda only. there will be remasters too for sure (Smash with the amiibo release it is pretty sure, for example); there will also be brand new Nintendo first party games, maybe even a brand new 3D Mario.
Are those "nothing"? Not at all.
Are those able to reassure about the Nintendo "new" structure, able to avoid the usual droughts in terms of software output?
Absolutely not.

The Wii U was their first foot in the HD era, but they had vast periods of droughts through their entire existence, simply because they are not HUGE in terms of number of emlpoyees, and one single software house is hardly able to properly sustain a console. imagine two.

So, this is where I am expecting the hybrid concept to help us: merging the sofware efforts, we should see a more constant output of first party software, plus the usual third party japanese portable games merging with the fewer home side output.

So far, saying that the usual japanese third party portable support will surely come to the Switch in just an assumption, both first and third party side.

Nintendo is still pushing out software for the 3DS; third parties too. Games like Mario Maker 3ds, Pokemon Sun/Moon, Monster Hunter XX, Snack World, Megaton Musashi and so on aren't exactly telling us that OF COURSE OBVIOUSLY the Switch will get them.

We were also SO sure about Etrian Odissey 5, for example...

Where should they go?
They could go mobile, PS4/Vita, 4DS (are we so sure Nintendo isn't planning a real 3DS successor?) or could dissappear. How many IP and brands have desappeared in the last decade, especially in the transition from a gen to another?

THe preview video, the onlie site (even the JP one) are presenting the console as "home console", are presenting NBA and Skyrim as "partners", and nothing so far screamed "OMG finally we will be able to play Pokemon and Fire emblem and all the Japanese goodies in HD on our TV and also on the GO at the same time"---apart our assumptions.

And even the first party output could be worrisome considering how rumored the Wi U ports have been so far: if they need to completely shut down the WIi U (we aren't even getting the probable DLC planned, for example for Pokken, or the hinted MK8 ones) in order to concentrate Wi U games + real Switch ones to obtain a solid first year lineup, that isn't different from the GC --> Wii transition.

They need to reassure us about the ability to properly sustain with a stream of games their console and its not with Wii U ports and western third party games + their own "usual" home games that this can happen

We need to see a merging with the portable side, both first and third party, with games such as mainline pokemon, mainline animal crossing, mainline fire emblem, mainline mario&luigi, mainline MH, mainline Level5 and Atlus support and so on

Is that specific enough?

 

[Starchasing]

How can I get more specific?
Hybrid to me means that they actually will merge the software lineups/efforts into one console (OS, hardware family, whatever: so far we've got only that form factor of the Switch, so I tend to focus only on that.)

I'm not expecting that they will present zelda only. there will be remasters too for sure (Smash with the amiibo release it is pretty sure, for example); there will also be brand new Nintendo first party games, maybe even a brand new 3D Mario.
Are those "nothing"? Not at all.
Are those able to reassure about the Nintendo "new" structure, able to avoid the usual droughts in terms of software output?
Absolutely not.

The Wii U was their first foot in the HD era, but they had vast periods of droughts through their entire existence, simply because they are not HUGE in terms of number of emlpoyees, and one single software house is hardly able to properly sustain a console. imagine two.

So, this is where I am expecting the hybrid concept to help us: merging the sofware efforts, we should see a more constant output of first party software, plus the usual third party japanese portable games merging with the fewer home side output.

So far, saying that the usual japanese third party portable support will surely come to the Switch in just an assumption, both first and third party side.

Nintendo is still pushing out software for the 3DS; third parties too. Games like Mario Maker 3ds, Pokemon Sun/Moon, Monster Hunter XX, Snack World, Megaton Musashi and so on aren't exactly telling us that OF COURSE OBVIOUSLY the Switch will get them.

We were also SO sure about Etrian Odissey 5, for example...

Where should they go?
They could go mobile, PS4/Vita, 4DS (are we so sure Nintendo isn't planning a real 3DS successor?) or could dissappear. How many IP and brands have desappeared in the last decade, especially in the transition from a gen to another?

THe preview video, the onlie site (even the JP one) are presenting the console as "home console", are presenting NBA and Skyrim as "partners", and nothing so far screamed "OMG finally we will be able to play Pokemon and Fire emblem and all the Japanese goodies in HD on our TV and also on the GO at the same time"---apart our assumptions.

And even the first party output could be worrisome considering how rumored the Wi U ports have been so far: if they need to completely shut down the WIi U (we aren't even getting the probable DLC planned, for example for Pokken, or the hinted MK8 ones) in order to concentrate Wi U games + real Switch ones to obtain a solid first year lineup, that isn't different from the GC --> Wii transition.

They need to reassure us about the ability to properly sustain with a stream of games their console and its not with Wii U ports and western third party games + their own "usual" home games that this can happen

We need to see a merging with the portable side, both first and third party, with games such as mainline pokemon, mainline animal crossing, mainline fire emblem, mainline mario&luigi, mainline MH, mainline Level5 and Atlus support and so on

Is that specific enough?

I think they are selling the idea that is a "home console on the go" because a "handheld with tv out" sounds bad. Most games will be tailored to gaming on the go. Games that can be played on short bursts.

 

[Dark Cloud]

I can't stop breathing so heavy. Tantalus said they're working on multiple Switch titles!

Maybe one is Skyward Sword. I really hope one of the games is Paper Mario TTYD, F-Zero GX or Eternal Darkness.

 

[WordAssassin]

I can't stop breathing so heavy. Tantalus said they're working on multiple Switch titles!

Maybe one is Skyward Sword. I really hope one of the games is Paper Mario TTYD, F-Zero GX or Eternal Darkness.

I want Eternal Darkness so that we can finally get a god damned sequel. They have an excuse of "no brand awareness" right now but if they remaster it they no longer have an excuse!! O:<

 

[PSFan]

Thats the idea. Get your dedicated consumer on board as quickly as possible, in order to build an install base that 3rd parties cant ignore. Then keep building your library with a flood of origional nintendo games going forward.

Well if that's true, they need to stop playing those stock shortage games and get enough out there for those people to buy it without having to wait in line or pay some scalper.

 

[DrWong]

Well if that's true, they need to stop playing those stock shortage games and get enough out there for those people to buy it without having to wait in line or pay some scalper.

?

 

[GodfatherX]

I would like to see the Mario kart, splatoon, smash "sequels be 39.99 but I think 50.00 is more likely

Also when was our last console Mario golf? Gcn?

 

[BodiesWithoutOrgans]

I would really like paper mario colour splash switch version please

 

[Taker666]

My hopes are 250 euros maximum, with a game included, like Breath of the Wild or the new Mario.

Agreed. 250 euros/US$ is the most it should be if they want the slightest chance of this thing selling (if not $179-$199).

Given the price of the base PS4/XB1, charging more for a weaker machine would be a disaster.

 

[Aostia]

I think they are selling the idea that is a "home console on the go" because a "handheld with tv out" sounds bad. Most games will be tailored to gaming on the go. Games that can be played on short bursts.

That is not my main concern so far (also because looking back at 3DS/WiiU libraries it's pretty evident how the borders are very shadowy nowadays), and looking at how they presented the console so far, should not be a problem (I mean, among ALL the games outthere, they partnered with Bethesda for the...like...first time ever, for Skyrim.

What I'm saying is that the hybrid console could bring us the best of both "nintendo" worlds (softwre-wise) but I'm still uncertain about hot they will actually manage their and the Japanese third party software output.

 

[Starchasing]

Agreed. 250 euros/US$ is the most it should be if they want the slightest chance of this thing selling (if not $179-$199).

Given the price of the base PS4/XB1, charging more for a weaker machine would be a disaster.

Price includes all variables:

PS4 = more powerful but you can not take it on the go
Switch = less powerful but you can take it on the go

And ti9me has shown that most people do not care about power

 

[Starchasing]

That is not my main concern so far (also because looking back at 3DS/WiiU libraries it's pretty evident how the borders are very shadowy nowadays), and looking at how they presented the console so far, should not be a problem (I mean, among ALL the games outthere, they partnered with Bethesda for the...like...first time ever, for Skyrim.

What I'm saying is that the hybrid console could bring us the best of both "nintendo" worlds (softwre-wise) but I'm still uncertain about hot they will actually manage their and the Japanese third party software output.

Instead of 2 games, one for each console we would get one for switch. In this case their output would be:

1 2d mario game
1 3d mario game
1 mario kart game
1 2d zelda game
1 3d zelda game
1 3d metroid game LOL
1 2d metroid game LOLOLOLOL

 

[Aostia]

Instead of 2 games, one for each console we would get one for switch. In this case their output would be:

1 2d mario game
1 3d mario game
1 mario kart game
1 2d zelda game
1 3d zelda game
1 3d metroid game LOL
1 2d metroid game LOLOLOLOL

That is what I am hoping for alongside portable games from Nintendo and third parties done for the tech capabikities of the console

 

[Starchasing]

That is what I am hoping for alongside portable games from Nintendo and third parties done for the tech capabikities of the console

But portable games must be played also in the TV... in any way im sure they are going to focus in the mobile part. Home consoles are dying.