StrongBlackVine
Banned
No it is not true because he nor we have the numbers. It's damage control.
This couldn't be further from the truth. I doubt it is even the norm on this forum.
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No it is not true because he nor we have the numbers. It's damage control.
This couldn't be further from the truth. I doubt it is even the norm on this forum.
Wonder how big the gap is though, it's a very important detail.
Perhaps the biggest fanboys on YouTube.
The funny thing is that these "grown ass men" are constantly being put in their place under the comments of their newest video yet they refuse to reply, knowing damn well they're being exposed.
Perhaps the biggest fanboys on YouTube.
Don't have the announcements at hand but the majority of new tvs being sold this year, over 50", have been 4k tvs and on total 48% of all new TV sets. UK, seen to the amount of sold units only in Europe, was helming the charge.
And China, also seeing only to units sold, is buying most of these sets in the world.
There is some fluff piece piece both from Samsung, Sony and LG all saying something similar.
Humdinger
Gold Member
Hope we get actual numbers within the next couple of months. Sorry to hear that Aqua got legally threatened. That's not good.
I would love to hear how many Pros vs. Slims got sold, too. I wonder if Sony will share Pro sales numbers or just give vague "meeting expectations" comments.
I would love to hear how many Pros vs. Slims got sold, too. I wonder if Sony will share Pro sales numbers or just give vague "meeting expectations" comments.
st1nk nuts
Member
Right, but reading threads here, which I know isn't all accurate for the general public, a bunch of PSVR owners upgraded to the PS4 pro and either traded in or sold their PS4. Which would inflate sales for the pro. Also I'm sure a bunch of pro owners traded or sold the OG PS4 which again would inflate sales.
LMAO with that gif xD
StrongBlackVine
Banned
I'm having trouble following your mental gymnastics. Just curious did you use the same logic after the Xbox One S launched?
*edit These topics are just not the same without numbers.
That's really the point that I was making. Usually the people who are missing the feature will downplay it, rarely giving it props. Expected though, sour grapes and all that.
I thought it was selling pretty good? I'd hoped it pushed people to buy a PS4, but then again I want VR to sell well in general. I'm sure Sony hoped to get some new faces and I think they did.
Nightengale
Member
Its best to wait till numbers are made available before jumping on hypotheticals of how market responded.
Unknown?
Member
Doesn't matter. Those old ones still go to another home and PS4 is still in more homes than Xbox. The only way it would matter is if the majority of those people who upgraded kept their old systems. I mean the same could be stated for the Xbox One S that people were upgrading to the latest model and that happens all the time on every system revision. It's just irrelevant speculation.
Carnby
Member
I watched the video. He even draws similarities between people who buy ps4 and people who buy Justin Bieber. As if being an Xbox fan is also like being a fan of a really good unknown band. Lol.
Super_Cobra
Member
I went ahead and got a PS4 pro. So Sony just sold one for December.
Dougieflesh
Member
Vast majority of people ignore Nintendo consoles. Maybe Switch will change things up, we'll see.
FinaruDensetsu
Member
I think most people regardless of which console they have give it the right amount of credit. It's a cool feature for gamers, not for sales. Not really seeing the sour grapes you're referring to except from maybe an extreme minority of people i.e. the hardcore console warriors.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
I stopped watching his videos because I'm not gonna reward for him acting a fool. I think it is partially an act.
TrojanBlade
Member
And people were already saying doom and gloom for Sony since XB1 was outselling it for last few months....Well looks like most ppl were waiting for the Pro...and BAM the king is back!!!
With a lot of good stuff to come next year, I think they will continue with the trend. Have to see how Scorpio changes things at the end of 2017...but Sony can price cut Pro/Slim to counter Scorpio which might give them more sales. It will be interesting.
With a lot of good stuff to come next year, I think they will continue with the trend. Have to see how Scorpio changes things at the end of 2017...but Sony can price cut Pro/Slim to counter Scorpio which might give them more sales. It will be interesting.
Waiting for stock in my country.
If US/EMEA has such a PS4 Pro surplus, then send some to Asia 😲
I'm thinking the win was probably a bigger gap than people think.
Some sort of appeal to console/music hipsterism?
Isn't more like saying you're cooler for liking Ford over GM or vice versa.
Or that you're a music hipster because you only use Bose?
wut.
SmoothRunningGun
Member
People were (wisely) waiting for pro. Maybe MS wins again when Scorpio comes out.
Metalingus5150
Member
If they don't they're in major trouble.
st1nk nuts
Member
I guess I could, when the Xbox one S launched did MS win that month? I'll try and look it up.
Edit: a quick google search and it looks like the S launched in August and MS won that month. So yes that's why MS won.
Yes Numbers would be good, it's fun to speculate though.
AgentChris
Member
Damn PS4 a beast.
Hawk269
Member
I really did not think about this until I saw your post, but I am sure that MS was looking at Sony's messaging, release strategy and sales figures of the PRO with great interest. It really is the first time a company have tried this and will change the way consoles are released going forward. I personally think Sony did a shitty job with the PRO and they should of had a lot more older games with Pro features and more games that actually took real advantage of it. If the PRO turns out to be a good win, then to your point does potentially mean that Scorpio will be fine as well.
I was one of the people that went with the PRO. For me, it just makes sense and the price difference between the two units, without taking the crazy sales going on it is well worth it. Yes, I wish there was a lot more software and I wish some the PS4 PRO enhanced games ran better (FF I am looking at you), you can definitely see the potential in the system and I am looking forward to devs getting to grips with it and really showing what it can do.
Maybe you're right and it's all just my imagination.
They could never win another NPD forever and be fine. It's more about how much they get beat by.
Yeah Sony massively undershipped in Asia. It's sold out everywhere here in the Philippines, and instantly gets bought up as soon as new stock arrives.
FinaruDensetsu
Member
Maybe. Have you seen lots of people say that it's not a good feature? I don't really understand how they'd argue that a free feature that lets you play old games you already own is somehow bad for the gamer.
On the other hand many people here say that the feature really has no bearing on sales of a console and they're right.
Ever since cyber Monday is been sold out on Amazon and won't be in stock until the 16th. Which I find strange, you'd think Sony would make sure Amazon has plenty of stock.
For real. It's just sad. Dude is delusional and needs help.
Super_Cobra
Member
Gamestop said that was the last PS4 pro they had.
I honestly believe that I have. "Current gen backlog, nobody wants to play old games, etc" same with people who act like checkerboard rendering isn't great because "fauxK" and "Scorpion will have real 4K". But like I said, I'd rather just assume you're right and I imagined it because I'm not going to try to pull quotes.
Also I also said it has little to no bearing on sales.
Surprise PS4 Pro Call of Duty bundle coming soon (maybe)
FinaruDensetsu
Member
I think you're conflating people saying that most people play new games rather than old games with them saying it's a bad feature.
I too believe only a minority of people actually use it but that doesn't mean it's not a neat and useful feature.
Dash_Riprock
Member
God, "Scorpio will turn the tide!" is gonna be the rallying cry for all of 2017, isn't it?
ArkhamFantasy
Member
Still not as bad as "waiting for switch version".
Tallshortman
Member
Bring back the blackboard. It's amazing that most of it the time it seems like it's a junior having a sales meltdown. People need to fucking chill since coming off as salty in a sales thread only makes it worse.
Yeah, you're probably right.
UberTag
Member
We don't see meaningful numbers any more.
Just nonsense ship-to-retailer numbers where everyone is in a winner.
All of our NPD leakers got taken out by the mafia.
Hawk269
Member
It is amazing that you took the other posters comment and turned into what you wrote. I don't think anyone is saying that it will turn the tide, it is people like you that fuel some of the b.s. that is spread. The other poster was just suggesting that if the PRO did very well, it can potentially be a good thing for Scorpio because the market is accepting mid-gen upgrades...no one is saying it is going to turn the tide.
It'll be another year of Switch-type 'Hope' or Pro 'red pill' threads with some wild claims about performance.
I miss Hindle's antics
. Wish GAF mods would unban him.And congrats Sony but lets wait for December numbers before I say "the king has truly returned"
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
AFAIK, PS4 50 million number is sold to consumers. Sony only announces sold through numbers nowadays.
Nightengale
Member
I miss Hindle's antics
And congrats Sony but lets wait for Sec numbers before I say "the king has truly returned"
I don't. He was eloquent but nothing he talks about are founded in facts but illusions of MS grandeur and wilful misbelief of things he affirmed for himself (like Donnie Yen) even when an Asian like myself tells him he's objectively false.
rokkerkory
Member
congrats ps4!!!
LastMinuteHero
Member
The 50 million ps4 was sold to customers though? Unless you're talking about npd numbers
anothertech
Member
We get MAUs! don't forget the MAUs.