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Chilean Navy releases UFO video

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jstripes

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water_wendi said:
Interesting. Correct me if im wrong but from watching the longer video it seems that this object is completely invisible to the naked eye and only shows up on other cameras? Is that what that switching back and forth between colorized shots and black/white is?
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I'm pretty sure the B&W video is infrared, which shows heat.
 
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Jal

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The Admiral confirmed that this could not have been a US drone, or any type of espionage or secret vehicle from a foreign country.
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I'm pretty sure he'd be out of a job if he didn't.
 
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pitchfork

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bonesmccoy said:
How about we stop referring to a HuffPo blog, written by an author of 2 books and countless blog posts about UFOs/paranormal events, as an article? To those who are salty about how dismissive GAF can be in threads like this, the kind of disingenuous representation of your sources do not help your cause.
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Except it is a pretty detailed article, citing numerous sources backed up with some decent evidence

Certainly doesn't read like some crazy blog post from a Giorgio tsoukalus (dunno if I spelled that right?) fanboy
 
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zeemumu

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Possible supernatural/extraterrestrial entity? Let me grab my shittiest camera, take a single shot, and make no further attempt to investigate after a minute or so.
 
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cyress8

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Took the shape of this helicopter a few times
 
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gutshot

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zeemumu said:
Possible supernatural/extraterrestrial entity? Let me grab my shittiest camera, take a single shot, and make no further attempt to investigate after a minute or so.
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Possible supernatural/extraterrestrial thread? Let me grab my computer, post the shittiest shit post, and make no further attempt to read the article after a minute or so.
 
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Unknown object violating Chilean airspace releasing/spraying unknown agents into their airspace and instead of engaging it or getting closer.....just watch it basically from a freaking telescope. Seriously, I tire of these vids. When are we gonna see up close, high resolution video or pictures?

Pitchfork-I watched it. While the footage is clear, it's still so far away it's hard to make out any real details. I don't understand why an airforce would sit and watch an unknown, unresponsive to radio hails, foreign object violate their airspace while releasing unknown chemical trails/vapors/material?
 
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bonesmccoy said:
How about we stop referring to a HuffPo blog, written by an author of 2 books and countless blog posts about UFOs/paranormal events, as an article? To those whose are salty about how dismissive GAF can be in threads like this, the kind of disingenuous representation of your sources do not help your cause.
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"Let's not ask people with a background in a topic and knowledge of the history of the topic to write about it."

Absurd. It's like saying a historian can't talk about history because they have some bias towards the subject. Prove Leslie Kean is not credible - she is not a goddamn Steven Greer or some other "cult of personality ufologist".
 
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belvedere

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Just read the article and it seemed like a detailed summary of events, not some speculative fiction like what some here are reporting.
 
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infinitys_7th

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ultrazilla said:
Unknown object violating Chilean airspace releasing/spraying unknown agents into their airspace and instead of engaging it or getting closer.....just watch it basically from a freaking telescope. Seriously, I tire of these vids. When are we gonna see up close, high resolution video or pictures?

Pitchfork-I watched it. While the footage is clear, it's still so far away it's hard to make out any real details.
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I tire of these responses.

If it is a natural phenomenon, is it more likely to be far away or close? Assuming it is a random phenomenon equally likely to occur at any point in space (an admittedly idealized assumption) it is obviously more likely to occur far away from you because there is more space far away from you than up close.

If it is an unnatural phenomenon, like a military test, are they going to be doing testing near where anyone can get a good photo? Or will they do it as far out as possible using land restrictions or the ocean as a barrier?
 
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ClosingADoor

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So they didn't do anything after the pilots reported this in? If there was some kind of unknown flying object passing through here - releasing stuff also! - the airforce would be out with at least a couple of F-16s to search the skies.
 
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gutshot

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ClosingADoor said:
So they didn't do anything after the pilots reported this in? If there was some kind of unknown flying object passing through here - releasing stuff also! - the airforce would be out with at least a couple of F-16s to search the skies.
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They investigated the footage captured as well as all available radar and radio traffic. I'm not sure the Chilean Air Force is equipped with F-16s on constant stand-by to go searching for a UAP that doesn't show up on radar.
 
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Thewonandonly

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system11 said:
<UFO lands>
Aliens: "We are from Xyrpon, we come in peace"
Human: "Yeah whatever, that's just a rubber mask, look at those ears. Call that a space ship? It's a Chinook with a bodykit and disco lights"
<humans grab ears and pull>

This is how we get exterminated.

Seems pretty likely that it's some kind of stealth aircraft nobody is going to admit exists.
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Man I won't lie it's kind of a shitty stealth ship.

Russia sees a giant black line on the sky
"All right every one act innocent were being watched"
 
ultrazilla

ultrazilla

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infinitys_7th said:
I tire of these responses.

If it is a natural phenomenon, is it more likely to be far away or close? Assuming it is a random phenomenon equally likely to occur at any point in space (an admittedly idealized assumption) it is obviously more likely to occur far away from you because there is more space far away from you than up close.

If it is an unnatural phenomenon, like a military test, are they going to be doing testing near where anyone can get a good photo? Or will they do it as far out as possible using land restrictions or the ocean as a barrier?
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Your first paragraph-
A) Irregardless of how far away it was, once they observed it they should have attempted to get closer. If it disappears, it disappears! Surely then they would know it was something other worldly?

Your second paragraph-
B) If the Chilean Navy is to be believed, this was not military tech or anything they were familiar with. So your point is meaningless. Did you watch the video?
 
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infinitys_7th

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ClosingADoor said:
So they didn't do anything after the pilots reported this in? If there was some kind of unknown flying object passing through here - releasing stuff also! - the airforce would be out with at least a couple of F-16s to search the skies.
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Not true at all. Google "fast walkers" - we rarely respond to unusual radar-detected objects, and haven't sent fighters after anything like that in a long time.
 
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gutshot

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ultrazilla said:
Your first paragraph-
A) Irregardless of how far away it was, once they observed it they should have attempted to get closer. If it disappears, it disappears! Surely then they would know it was something other worldly?

Your second paragraph-
B) If the Chilean Navy is to be believed, this was not military tech or anything they were familiar with. So your point is meaningless. Did you watch the video?
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The aircraft has limited fuel and likely can't start chasing after UAPs that are 50+ miles away. They could have scrambled some jets to chase after it, but that is expensive and there is no guarantee they'd even be able to find it again since it wasn't showing up on radar.

The best they can do is observe it with the on-board equipment and then make a full report upon landing so the appropriate authorities could investigate it further.

qcf x2 said:
2017, HD phones and we still get blurry videos, obviously swamp gas and a lot of it.
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They took HD video of it. It's so far away that you can't make out much though.
 
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Samurai G0SU

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seems to hide in the clouds. the switch back and forth as their attempt to get it on hd doesnt work since they are so far and because of the clouds providing cover.

very interesting indeed.

Wonder if this will allow them more funds for better equipment - telescopic cameras perhaps

Plus this is video from 2014 - which went over review for years.
On November 11, 2014, a Chilean Navy helicopter (Airbus Cougar AS-532) was on a routine daytime patrol mission flying north along the coast, west of Santiago. On board were the pilot, a Navy Captain with many years of flying experience, and a Navy technician who was testing a WESCAM's MX-15 HD Forward Looking Infra Red (FLIR) camera, used most often for ”medium-altitude covert intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance," according to the product website. The aircraft was flying at an altitude of approximately 4,500 feet on a clear afternoon with unlimited horizontal visibility, and the air temperature at that height was 50 degrees F (10 C). There was a cloud base above at 10,000 feet, and a layer of stratuscumulos clouds below. The helicopter was flying at about 132 knots, or 152 mph.
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At 1:52 pm, while filming the terrain, the technician observed a strange object flying to the left over the ocean. Soon both men observed it with the naked eye. They noticed that the velocity and the altitude of the object appeared to be about the same as the helicopter, and estimated that the object was approximately 35 to 40 miles (55-65 km) away. It was traveling W/NW, according to the Captain. The technician aimed the camera at the object immediately and zoomed in with the infra red (IR) for better clarity
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The Navy immediately turned over the footage to the CEFAA, and General Bermúdez, accompanied by nuclear chemist Mario Avila, a CEFAA scientific committee member, conducted interviews with the two officers at their Navy base. ”I was very impressed by these witnesses," Avila told me. ”They were highly trained professionals with many years experience, and they were absolutely certain that they could not explain what they saw." Both offiicers also provided written reports at the base, as is required, and for CEFAA.

The Navy Captain stated that the object was a ”flat, elongated structure" with ”two thermal spotlights like discharges that did not coincide with the axel of motion." The technician described it as as ”white with a semi-oval shape on the horizontal axis."
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Interesting tidbits of the occurrence.
 
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infinitys_7th

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ultrazilla said:
Your first paragraph-
A) Irregardless of how far away it was, once they observed it they should have attempted to get closer. If it disappears, it disappears! Surely then they would know it was something other worldly?

Your second paragraph-
B) If the Chilean Navy is to be believed, this was not military tech or anything they were familiar with. So your point is meaningless. Did you watch the video?
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So you are suggesting the video is less credible because they didn't go closer?

The Chileans obviously do not know what it is - they believe is was not military tech based on their understanding of the tech available, but that does not mean it was not military tech beyond what they expect to exist.

That's not a hard concept.
 
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infinitys_7th

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qcf x2 said:
2017, HD phones and we still get blurry videos, obviously swamp gas and a lot of it.
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The man who introduced "swamp gas" as a potential explanation (which is now used as a blanket dismissal) was J. Allen Hynek:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Allen_Hynek

who said that swamp gas only accounts for a fraction of sightings, and noted even in the 60s how people latch onto such blank explanations:

In late March 1966 in Michigan, two days of mass UFO sightings were reported, and received significant publicity. After studying the reports, Hynek offered a provisional hypothesis for some of the sightings: a few of about 100 witnesses had mistaken swamp gas for something more spectacular. At the press conference where he made his announcement, Hynek repeatedly and strenuously stated that swamp gas was a plausible explanation for only a portion of the Michigan UFO reports, and certainly not for UFO reports in general. But much to his chagrin, Hynek's qualifications of his hypothesis were largely overlooked, and the term swamp gas was repeated ad infinitum in relation to UFO reports. The explanation was subject to national derision.
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So "swamp gas" is mostly meaningless as you use it.
 
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Corleth the Fey

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I've been following UFO phenomena for nearly 35 years. Since the days of Close Encounters and Arthur C Clarke's Mysterious World. It's a very interesting subject.

What's most interesting is the desperation of some to try and cling on to footage that could be showing anything and convincing themselves it's UFO footage.

We have ZERO evidence that we have ever been visited. We have an industry of so called experts on the matter who rather often conveniently make a living trying to fool the gullible into thinking we have. I rank them next to the psychics, astrologers and religious cultists in how seriously they should be taken.

If the physical reality of the universe we live in can't convince. Given how extremely difficult it is even exist off planet for a short amount time. How vast the gulf of space really is and how slowly you can realistically travel through it. How pointless and irrelevant our stupid little blue planet full of self important ape creatures is to the rest of near infinite universe.

If none of this actually makes you stop and critically think and you still wish to believe that the probability that something you can't make out on a YouTube video 'might' be extraterrestrial in origin then I've got some magic beans I want sell you. You poor deluded fools.
 
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v1lla21

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Yall in denial if you don't think aliens are here. As far as I know, the government has okay'd the Grays to test on human beings. That said, this is not a vehicle that I'd associate with the grays. Probably a reptilian excursion vehicle.
 
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infinitys_7th

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Corleth the Fey said:
I've been following UFO phenomena for nearly 35 years. Since the days of Close Encounters and Arthur C Clarke's Mysterious World. It's a very interesting subject.

What's most interesting is the desperation of some to try and cling on to footage that could be showing anything and convincing themselves it's UFO footage.

We have ZERO evidence that we have ever been visited. We have an industry of so called experts on the matter who rather often conveniently make a living trying to fool the gullible into thinking we have. I rank them next to the psychics, astrologers and religious cultists in how seriously they should be taken.

If the physical reality of the universe we live in can't convince. Given how extremely difficult it is even exist off planet for a short amount time. How vast the gulf of space really is and how slowly you can realistically travel through it. How pointless and irrelevant our stupid little blue planet full of self important ape creatures is to the rest of near infinite universe.

If none of this actually makes you stop and critically think and you still wish to believe that the probability that something you can't make out on a YouTube video 'might' be extraterrestrial in origin then I've got some magic beans I want sell you. You poor deluded fools.
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Why does it have to be "aliens", if the UFOs are craft? You keep arguing at a strawman when there is much more depth to it all.

This is the same tactic I see over and over again - you claim the "so-called experts" talk about aliens, but many of the people who are versed in the field abandoned the ET Hypothesis, some quite long ago (like Vallee). You have some highly dogmatic people who cling to it (Stanton Friedman in particular, but he is basically a recording at this point) but it is becoming less popular as there are very few cases where it makes sense.

And beyond that your arguments are flawed:

If the physical reality of the universe we live in can't convince. Given how extremely difficult it is even exist off planet for a short amount time. How vast the gulf of space really is and how slowly you can realistically travel through it. How pointless and irrelevant our stupid little blue planet full of self important ape creatures is to the rest of near infinite universe.
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We have not had enough time to say that it is "extremely difficult" in a meaningful way. Crossing the Atlantic Ocean was extremely difficult in much the same way for prehistoric humans - it doesn't mean that the logistics were impossible.

If an advanced species was coming here (which I agree is highly unlikely), then they would need a way to find us and a way to reach us.

For a truly advanced species, just building off the knowledge we have, reaching us would likely be easy, albeit either very time-consuming or VERY energy consuming. Of course, do we know enough to really say either of those things are necessarily true?

Finding us, based on how we know information travels in the universe, would be nearly impossible. We have a EMF footprint of about 100 lightyears around us, and that area is sort of dead AFAWK.

If none of this actually makes you stop and critically think and you still wish to believe that the probability that something you can't make out on a YouTube video 'might' be extraterrestrial in origin then I've got some magic beans I want sell you. You poor deluded fools.
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I've done plenty of critical thinking, but thanks for the insult. Grade A argument.
 
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Corleth the Fey

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infinitys_7th said:
Why does it have to be "aliens", if the UFOs are craft? You keep arguing at a strawman when there is much more depth to it all.

This is the same tactic I see over and over again - you claim the "so-called experts" talk about aliens, but many of the people who are versed in the field abandoned the ET Hypothesis, some quite long ago (like Vallee). You have some highly dogmatic people who cling to it (Stanton Friedman in particular, but he is basically a recording at this point) but it is becoming less popular as there are very few cases where it makes sense.
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Okay, what is it then?

EDIT. So I did a little checking. Here's your guy, right? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Vall%C3%A9e

Let's have look at what it he thinks UFO's are now shall we?

The interdimensional hypothesis (IDH or IH), is an idea advanced by Ufologists such as Jacques Vallée that says unidentified flying objects (UFOs) and related events involve visitations from other "realities" or "dimensions" that coexist separately alongside our own.
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So they are time travellers from other dimensions now. Well that's much more likely! Guess what, there is no actual evidence of that either.
 
jufonuk

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bonesmccoy said:
How about we stop referring to a HuffPo blog, written by an author of 2 books and countless blog posts about UFOs/paranormal events, as an article? To those who are salty about how dismissive GAF can be in threads like this, the kind of disingenuous representation of your sources do not help your cause.
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how about we do, she has spoken to many high ranking and reputable sources.

that's like saying don't listen to Nick Pope just because he worked for the MoD in the UK an looked into UFO's etc.

I trust Leslie Kean over some random blog. she knows her stuff.
 
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Lord Error

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The biggest weirdness here is the total lack of radar detection. Would that blimp thing from the verge link posted earlier have a radar reflection?
http://www.theverge.com/2015/4/8/8368751/airship-green-transport-airlander-hav-eu-grant

Even then, how could such a thing be flying there without any announcement or prior communication? What sane person would allow a flight of a slow-ass blimp that responds to no hails, that could be in massive danger flying announced like that.

Luschient said:
Yeah, that was some struggle-ass footage. Too much to ask for a decent camera on a military/government plane?
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The thing was 50+ miles away from them. I'd say this is pretty high quality footage for something that far off, and in IR to boot.
 
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Corleth the Fey said:
Okay, what is it then?
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Its a flying object that cant be identified. Not a UFO.

bonesmccoy said:
How about we stop referring to a HuffPo blog, written by an author of 2 books and countless blog posts about UFOs/paranormal events, as an article? To those who are salty about how dismissive GAF can be in threads like this, the kind of disingenuous representation of your sources do not help your cause.
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Unfortunately its usually only people who are interested in the subject who report about it. Everyone else is too afraid to tarnish their reputation.
 
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infinitys_7th

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Corleth the Fey said:
Okay, what is it then?
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Insect swarms, unknown EM phenomenon, localized natural infrasound, some sort of large exotic life form which floats in the sky...

Simple hoaxes, advanced military tech, psyops, a breakaway human civilization, a breakaway hominid civilization...

And "aliens" are a possibility too, of course, but I have problems with that explanation (How would they find us?).

Any and all could be right. It's a transient phenomenon, so it is near impossible to study at all beyond anecdotes.
 
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