Omega Kirby
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Betting time: Do you think the Switch will be a success?
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Some people live in a fantasy lol
Smooth Operator
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Please tell me that i'm in Westworld right now.
onemanasylum
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I think it's called Nintendoland.
Pokemon Go is a free mobile game that can be downloaded within seconds on any supported smartphone, which pretty much billions of people own. I want the Switch to succeed as a fan of nintendo games, but even i see this console having difficulties because $300 is a lot to people.
So say a huge Pokémon GO update is released (1v1 battles, trading and hundreds of new Pokémon), completely reigniting the phenomenon, released alongside Pokémon Stars for the Nintendo Switch.
Even if 1/10th of the massive amounts of people there bring a Switch with Smash Bros, Mario Kart and Pokémon, it's enough to ignite a massive chunk of people flooding to buy a Switch after seeing first hand what they're capable of.
I don't see this as a far fetched idea tbh. Only a small example of what we'll see when portable local multiplayer takes over.
Jonneh3003
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Yeah I don't think the majority of GAF is right on this one, all first party games look amazing and I can't wait to see more.
newtypepilot
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have you question the nature of your reality?
You sound like those people who thought Microsoft could get 1% of China to buy an Xbox One.
Majmun
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Sounds more like high fantasy wishful thinking to me
Theres no way to tell if it will sell well in the long run but as it is right now, i don't think so.
I only see hardcore nintendo fans getting it this year.
When it comes to the casual crowd, i don't see them buying one because of the price. The switch certainly won't convice mobile players to buy a 300$ console.
When it comes to people who have a ps4 or xbox one, i don't see them buying one because of the price, the current lack of exclusives and the fact that they would need to pay for a second subcription in order to play online.
When it comes to people who have not bought a next gen console yet, it makes much more sense to buy a ps4 or xbox one. They are both cheaper, more powerful and have an exellent and varied game library.
I only see hardcore nintendo fans getting it this year.
When it comes to the casual crowd, i don't see them buying one because of the price. The switch certainly won't convice mobile players to buy a 300$ console.
When it comes to people who have a ps4 or xbox one, i don't see them buying one because of the price, the current lack of exclusives and the fact that they would need to pay for a second subcription in order to play online.
When it comes to people who have not bought a next gen console yet, it makes much more sense to buy a ps4 or xbox one. They are both cheaper, more powerful and have an exellent and varied game library.
Not me.
Compsiox
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I think what you just quoted is him literally questioning his reality.
If it doesn't get a price cut towards the end of 2017/beginning of 2018? = Wii U tier
If it does, then the Switch will have a chance of having a 3DS-like resurgence in later years. Funny to say that about a console that hasn't even been released but yesterday's presentation does not bode well for the Switch in 2017.
If it does, then the Switch will have a chance of having a 3DS-like resurgence in later years. Funny to say that about a console that hasn't even been released but yesterday's presentation does not bode well for the Switch in 2017.
How is that fantasy? You don't think when they do a huge Pokémon Go update it will bring back the massive crowds? You don't think anyone in those crowds will bring a Switch with them? It's really not that intense of an idea at all. I'd bank on it happening.
How do we even know a price cut would happen? Nintendo was hellbent on selling the Wii U for $300 and still hasn't cut the price even after it bombed.
Parapraxis
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This reads like fan-fiction lol...just wow (pretty sure those crowds of poke players are already busy playing pokemon)
orthodoxy1095
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Psh 1/10th of Pokemon Go users, what about if they just sold it to 1% of China tho.
MatrixMan.EXE
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You're in for massive disappointment if you think this is going to be Wii 2, I'm sorry. The idea that third parties are going to bother taking advantage of the Switch's unique capabilities is also utter fanfiction, considering how few of them bothered with the Wii U, this is no different.
Theonik
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3-5 hours playing games verified by real world statistics. Original 3DS rarely hit 5 in gameplay and usually stayed to the 3-4 range of that spectrum. Vita can exceed 5.
Switch on the other hand is reported to get under 3 for Zelda and who knows how the average game performs. The thing has a fan it only makes sense.
Dancing Queen
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This. Extremely underwhelming reception. This is a big sign.
orthodoxy1095
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I think you misunderstand the flash-in-the-pan, fad-based nature of mobile.
Yeah, Vita can get up to 10 playing PS1 and PSP games. And just turning off wifi gets you greater than 5 hours in a lot of games.
StereoVsn
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If only 1% of China buys the Switch, Nintendo will be hugely successful! Your argument is on the same level.
Someone has to go out and spend anywhere from $300 to $400+ on the console (depending on where they live), another $50 on an microSD card, possibly another $30 for chargeable joycon holder, $40-$60 for paid online and maybe another $70 - $100 on 2nd controller to play games on the Switch (not counting the game(s) themselves). I am sure that 10% of people who play Pokémon Go will now get a Switch. Note that Mario Run conversion to paid ($10) is under 4%.
The Wii U was based on archaic impossible to develop for archecture. The Switch already has a swath of third party developers confirmed with more on the way. Just because it's not a PS4 port doesn't mean the game doesn't exist. Switch will get FIFA and NBA2K confirmed. People will have a blast playing them. People who don't give a crap about a meager spec bump. People who don't own a tablet, and don't own a modern gaming console and want to buy something that can do both.
orthodoxy1095
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People don't want dogshit ports based on versions from last-gen.
Majmun
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How much has the 3DS sold?? It has many Pokemon games and it's cheaper than the Switch.
It must've sold 100+ mln units by now after the crazy Pokemon GO hype.
No?
MatrixMan.EXE
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Yikes. I'm convinced that you're trolling, but if not, I've had a look at your previous posts in this thread and it's clear there's absolutely no point trying to have a reasonable discussion about this, so I'm going to bookmark these posts so I can revisit them in a year's time when none of what you're saying actually pans out.
You're funny. Kinda.
I had a friend convince me to wait for the switch before I bought a 3ds as I was considering a 3ds. I mostly was interested in Pokemon, Monster Hunter, Fire Emblem (I think, there was some RPG on 3ds that I thought looked interesting a while back and I think that was it?), and Xenoblade. It made sense, plus I really liked what I have seen of the new Zelda game (it's pretty and I'm a sucker for open world 
). So, yeah I figured it would be more than a 3ds. But hey if Nintendo was smart and gets third party support, it seems like the switch would be the better deal even if more expensive. And I really liked the idea of the switch tbh (at least from their first announcement of it).
I think now the 3ds looks more tempting tbh. It's cheaper, I don't even see that they have pokemon or monster hunter even advertised, Nintendo has gotten such a bad rep for third party support that I don't trust claims that it will have it (didn't 3rd parties also claim they were going to support Wii U?) and I want to see it which I don't in their games line up (it's nice they have a Bethesda game though but Skyrim isn't enough... maybe if they got Fallout New Vegas but that game will sell me on almost anything to be fair as it is my favorite game ever). Oh, and the 3ds will make a better handheld. I mean I'm not even gaurenteed to get most the games I was interested in that were on the 3ds on the Switch (yes, most likely those games will come to switch but yeah, not even announced yet for it).
At best I'll wait for it to get cheaper or to see if there are some third party games I want on it (I really like the idea of it being a portable console but does me no good if no games I want are on it). At worst I'll buy a 3ds or even just nothing as I also want to get VR and that's going to really hurt my wallet.
And honestly, I'm seeing the same huge mistake NIntendo made with the Wii U made all over again. Very likely to have weak third party support but pricing yourself the same as two other consoles that do have good third party support. Nintendo games alone aren't going to sell the console unless it's cheap enough to be a second console. I do think there is room for a 3DS style resurgance if they cheapen the console though.
So yeah, my prediction is they will fail with this. And I have a good track record for predicting success of consoles (handhelds are a different story. All the ones I like tend to be failures . WHich may also bode badly for the Switch as I liked it more for its portability than console quality).
). So, yeah I figured it would be more than a 3ds. But hey if Nintendo was smart and gets third party support, it seems like the switch would be the better deal even if more expensive. And I really liked the idea of the switch tbh (at least from their first announcement of it).I think now the 3ds looks more tempting tbh. It's cheaper, I don't even see that they have pokemon or monster hunter even advertised, Nintendo has gotten such a bad rep for third party support that I don't trust claims that it will have it (didn't 3rd parties also claim they were going to support Wii U?) and I want to see it which I don't in their games line up (it's nice they have a Bethesda game though but Skyrim isn't enough... maybe if they got Fallout New Vegas but that game will sell me on almost anything to be fair as it is my favorite game ever). Oh, and the 3ds will make a better handheld. I mean I'm not even gaurenteed to get most the games I was interested in that were on the 3ds on the Switch (yes, most likely those games will come to switch but yeah, not even announced yet for it).
At best I'll wait for it to get cheaper or to see if there are some third party games I want on it (I really like the idea of it being a portable console but does me no good if no games I want are on it). At worst I'll buy a 3ds or even just nothing as I also want to get VR and that's going to really hurt my wallet.
And honestly, I'm seeing the same huge mistake NIntendo made with the Wii U made all over again. Very likely to have weak third party support but pricing yourself the same as two other consoles that do have good third party support. Nintendo games alone aren't going to sell the console unless it's cheap enough to be a second console. I do think there is room for a 3DS style resurgance if they cheapen the console though.
So yeah, my prediction is they will fail with this
. And I have a good track record for predicting success of consoles (handhelds are a different story. All the ones I like tend to be failures . WHich may also bode badly for the Switch as I liked it more for its portability than console quality).Waldo Lydecker
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Prediction time: within 18 months Nintendo will announce a dedicated handheld in the vein of the DS and 3DS and point at the big pro of having a second screen and better batterylife...
always crazy bacon
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So wait for panic mode Nintendo?
I have news for you, the majority of people who don't post on forums like this could give a shit about if it's a port or not. Especially sports game players.
No, but there was a huge hardware sales increase. Look it up.
If this is true. Why is the 3rd party support so garbage so far. And i heard the fifa game is based off last gen versions of the game. Ps360 type ports, not even current gen versions ported over
Sexually Aggressive Uncle
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It'll sell to the army of Nintendo loyalists who will gladly pay for anything this company farts out.
I'm not sure how Nintendo will be able to expand its base in today's smartphone landscape and judging how they're handling the Switch, I'm don't think they know either.
I'm expecting WiiU levels here.
I'm not sure how Nintendo will be able to expand its base in today's smartphone landscape and judging how they're handling the Switch, I'm don't think they know either.
I'm expecting WiiU levels here.
Wolfgunblood Garopa
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As far as PS4/XB1 owners, I can see Switch as an extremely appealing alternative platform to own.
It's region free. Consider the amount of niche or obscure 3DS games that are available in Japan. Switch will have a similar thing going on, and there's a lot of appeal to having easy access to those games.
Also, the Switch differentiates itself from the other platforms, so it will be a fresh experience. That's appealing to everyone- people who are intimidated by PS4/XB1 and are more comfortable with a friendlier Nintendo platform as well as people who already have a PS4/XB1.
onemanasylum
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Hardware bump <> wii type sales lol.
Just like wii-u............
Niche Japanese games are not going to sell in any big numbers.
Or get in now for that inevitable Switch Ambassador program
Oh ok, i guess higher res, better textures, shadows, AA and draw distance with better frame rate are "the same" thing then, especially for a port.
Seriously i don't know why some of you guys keep asking for better specs if you can't even see what they produce. Do you like the higher number or something?
For one thing, I don't see the phenomenon being reignited to the same level as before. It'll probably get a bump sure. Secondly, the local multiplayer aspect is cool, but not cool enough to outweigh the impracticality of two people with tiny controllers looking at a 6 inch screen (even smaller if we're including split screen, and I'm not sure how local multiplayer pokemon can work without cheating) in addition to the high barrier to entry. If the price was in impulse buy territory then sure, it may happen.
I look forward to it, but we won't have to wait a year. We'll see how crazily these Switch fly of the shelves in just a few more weeks.
Yeah, none of the casual gamers will know or even give a crap if it's a port or not.
Maybe not quite as huge as before, but the crowds will return. There's no doubt about that. Also, pocket projectors cost $100 and any wall is a 100 inch Switch screen.
always crazy bacon
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Thats a whole load of exceptions.
Launch sales are not an indication of how well it'll sell in its lifetime. I'd be surprised if this thing still sold well after April.
Voysa Reezun
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Hey, it isn't like that demographic bitched about paying just ten dollars for a Mario game on mobile or anything!
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