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Syrenne McNulty, Switch Dev, gives wrong details on NS, Joycon, VC and more

daffy

Banned
Sounds like a Gamestop employee that finally got off new hire probation and is now trying to make moves and have ideas
 

Oresama

Member
-the free game a month is exactly like PS+. As long as you download within that free month it's yours to keep as long as you're subscribed.

I cancelled my pre-order based on Reggie's response to this very issue during the Wired.com interview!

As high as he sits within Nintendos corporate ladder, how does he NOT understand how his own online subscription service works?

Welp, the hunt for a new preorder begins anew...
 
Should've sourced that Reggie quote. In case anyone wants to make sure for themselves. So basically, this interview is just stuff we already knew with a bit of misinformation thrown in. Disappointing. :'/

Well that depends on how you read Reggie's statement, it can mean that you lose access to adding that game to your library. For a limiting time you get to add it, then they move on to the next one. He would be also right.
 

Mutagenic

Permanent Junior Member
I cancelled my pre-order based on Reggie's response to this very issue during the Wired.com interview!

As high as he sits within Nintendos corporate ladder, how does he NOT understand how his own online subscription service works?

Welp, the hunt for a new preorder begins anew...
You can't possibly believe this developer over Nintendo themselves. Come the fuck on.
 

kruis

Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
How can Dev not know the difference between analogue and digital?

The word "dev" doesn't mean anything in a Nintendo context. Anyone can become a Nintendo developer. There's nothing stopping you from signing up and selling Unity sample games on Nintendo's online network.
 

Seik

Banned
So the whole deal with people panicking over not keeping the free games was BS? We actually get to keep the games as long as we're subscribed?

Where did that info come from in the first place?
 
"You'll have the opportunity to buy it"...so tell me, what part of that quote confuses you? We'll break it down further if need be.

At that point he could be already talking about after said month ended.

He literally says "correct" when asked if you lose access to the game after a month. I'm running out of gold medals for all these mental gymnasts.

Read my other post again, he could mean that you lose access to adding that game to your library. There's no need to try to be funny with that "gold medal" line.

I'm not saying he means that, I'm just stating that it can be taken both ways, not doing any mental gymnastics. I'm most likely not gonna get this service anyway unless it's super cheap.
 
Reggie's response could mean exactly what this dev said tho.
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Honestly I don't know who to believe. I do wish Reggie's responses were as clear and concise as this Devs though...

It's crystal clear. People are just in denial because they refuse to believe Nintendo would have such a backwards policy in response to PSN and XBLA.
 
He literally says "correct" when asked if you lose access to the game after a month. I'm running out of gold medals for all these mental gymnasts.
It's not that much of a leap. He could have interpreted "access" as availability on the service. As in, he could have been clarifying that the free games do not accumulate on the service, that is to say new subscribers will not be able to access all past games. Just like PS+.

The main stretch here is interpreting his "buy" as purchasing (for free) on the store for that month. I've certainly seen that terminology being used for PS+ before.
 
It's not that much of a leap. He could have interpreted "access" as availability on the service. As in, he could have been clarifying that the free games do not accumulate on the service, that is to say new subscribers will not be able to access all past games. Just like PS+.

The main stretch here is interpreting his "buy" as purchasing (for free) on the store for that month. I've certainly seen that terminology being used for PS+ before.

It's an extraordinary leap. Reggie is a PR veteran. He knows exactly what he was asked, and he knows exactly what the implications were. He also knows the criticism that this service would be met with in response to the competition. He's not an idiot. If you got to keep the games he would be shouting that to the moon and back, and not talking about losing access or buying at a later date. That's not what PR people do. You guys are desperate and picking things apart to try and see what you want to see.
 
It's not that much of a leap. He could have interpreted "access" as availability on the service. As in, he could have been clarifying that the free games do not accumulate on the service, that is to say new subscribers will not be able to access all past games. Just like PS+.

The main stretch here is interpreting his "buy" as purchasing (for free) on the store for that month. I've certainly seen that terminology being used for PS+ before.
This quote is crystal clear.

Q: Nintendo’s online service for Switch will charge a monthly fee and one of the incentives is one free classic game “per month.” Does that mean you lose access to that game after a month?

A: Correct. It means that essentially you’ve got access to that game for a period of time, and then after the month there’s a new selection. You’ll have the opportunity to buy it, but [after] that month we’ve moved on to another game.

Reggie would have to be one of the biggest PR failures in corporate history with one of the worst commands of the English language to mean what people are claiming he meant.
 
It's not that much of a leap. He could have interpreted "access" as availability on the service. As in, he could have been clarifying that the free games do not accumulate on the service, that is to say new subscribers will not be able to access all past games. Just like PS+.

The main stretch here is interpreting his "buy" as purchasing (for free) on the store for that month. I've certainly seen that terminology being used for PS+ before.

Sadly Reggie literally agrees that you LOSE ACCESS to the game but can then of course buy it.

Question: Does that mean you lose access to that game after a month?
Reggie: Correct
 
This quote is crystal clear.



Reggie would have to be one of the biggest PR failures in corporate history with one of the worst commands of the English language to mean what people are claiming he meant.
I can't see "you'll have the opportunity to buy it" in that quote referring to anything other than the free purchase, because that's before he says they then move on to another game the next month.

I say either reading is valid, but we need more clarification.
 

gogojira

Member
Ok?



I couldn't care less about that, apparently it's not possible to have a real discussion without people starting to make "funny comments" to appear smart.

It's not a discussion. You were told how it works by Reggie. If it operates differently in the end, Reggie gave is wrong information but I'm going to go with his very clearly stated answer of a random dev with wrong info.

There's nothing up for interpretation with what Reggie said.
 

SRTtoZ

Member
At that point he could be already talking about after said month ended.



Read my other post again, he could mean that you lose access to adding that game to your library. There's no need to try to be funny with that "gold medal" line.

I'm not saying he means that, I'm just stating that it can be taken both ways, not doing any mental gymnastics. I'm most likely not gonna get this service anyway unless it's super cheap.

She's literally wrong about the first few things she said, like Analog triggers, motion controls better than Vive/Oculus, and keeping access to games after the first month. I know some of these policies sound backwards but this is the company making us use our own phones for voice chat.
 

border

Member
I think the bigger disappointment is that the free monthly game is Nintendo's choice, not the player's choice.

Like, seriously? You're going to yank access to the free VC title after a month and we don't even get to pick which game?
 

OmegaFax

Member
Her tweets are protected and unless she's employed by Nintendo or authorized to divulge details about anything outside of what they announced, I'd take it with a grain of salt. We're a month and a half from launch and Nintendo is being sketchy about sharing a whole lot of details.
 
Ok?



I couldn't care less about that, apparently it's not possible to have a real discussion without people starting to make "funny comments" to appear smart.

The discussion you are wanting to have is ludicrous and to take it seriously would require someone to divorce themselves from reality and common sense.
 

gogojira

Member
Everything in the OP reads like she's talking 100% fake insider bullshit.

It's become rampant. Everyone thinks they're a damn insider because someone told someone told someone Retro is working on a Star Tropics revival.

It was a fun ride but reality struck hard for them during the presentation and they all come away looking terrible.
 

Interfectum

Member
I cancelled my pre-order based on Reggie's response to this very issue during the Wired.com interview!

As high as he sits within Nintendos corporate ladder, how does he NOT understand how his own online subscription service works?

Welp, the hunt for a new preorder begins anew...

Lol this has to be trolling.
 
I can't see "you'll have the opportunity to buy it" in that quote referring to anything other than the free purchase, because that's before he says they then move on to another game the next month.

I say either reading is valid, but we need more clarification.
This feels like the definition of playing semantics when that quote seems so incredibly clear to me.
 
I don't believe she would flat out lie about this sort of stuff but clearly...she's a bit confused and it seems altogether possible she's talking about things that are outside her area of expertise?
 
The discussion you are wanting to have is ludicrous and to take it seriously would require someone to divorce themselves from reality and common sense.

Ok, I see you are still in need of making those "smart comments" at the end of your sentence to be funny. There's clearly no discussion to be had here.
 

nynt9

Member
How is this thread still going? Most of what's in the OP is either pointless, wild speculation or just blatantly false.
 
This feels like the definition of playing semantics when that quote seems so incredibly clear to me.
Please enlighten as to how clear this "opportunity" statement is. It sounds like a limited window, unless he thinks after the game is gone then buying it as usual is such a great opportunity. Which could be, but the way he says they "move on" after it makes me think otherwise.
 
Ok, I see you are still in need of making those "smart comments" at the end of your sentence to be funny. There's clearly no discussion to be had here.
Given what Reggie has said himself, there is indeed no discussion to be had until he comments again.
Please enlighten as to how clear this "opportunity" statement is. It sounds like a limited window, unless he thinks after the game is gone then buying it as usual is such a great opportunity. Which could be, but the way he says they "move on" after it makes me think otherwise.
That's exactly what it is. "Opportunity" sounds like classic PR trying to make it sound like Nintendo is doing me a favor.
 
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