Jaguar Victory
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That's the definition of more than small upgrade? If so, then no. What's the difference between a HD7770 and something better than an RX480?
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NeoGAF Post by Ori Dev: Scorpio is a "full blown next generation Console
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That's the definition of more than small upgrade? If so, then no. What's the difference between a HD7770 and something better than an RX480?
TheUnsunghero26
Member
It's a typo in the article. The original post says "full blown."
Nintendo moves after handheld system gens now though, but yeah. All 3 seem to be on the same trajectory, being iterations of similar hardware to allow you to bring the games with you, which is great. At least I presume the Switch will be a similar thing where the next gen Switch will use whatever Nvidia's got cooking SoC wise in the future
Next generation Jaguar core machine hype
What A Time To Be Alive
Member
Microsoft just needs to have a event on the Scorpio already so we can just get a clear picture of what the Scorpio is.
To much different information coming out and we're sitting here having to deal with this until maybe E3 :l
To much different information coming out and we're sitting here having to deal with this until maybe E3 :l
I don't really think that's the case anymore. It's now just adding a target spec.
Essentially we will just have cross-gen games for a much longer period of time.
I think eventually the Xbone will lose support from devs, but MS will mandate they port anything on Scorpio to Xbone for something like 2 years. Because PS4 Pro is much closer to PS4 than Scorpio is to Xbox One, PS4 will get all PS4 Pro games until PS5. It's a bit different with scorpio. Essentially, eventually the Xbox one will fail to meet the minimum spec you see now with PC games, and devs won't want to be hamstrung by it. Likely won't happen for at least a couple years after scorpio is out. I think you will see scorpio exclusive titles by 2019. And who knows if we will even get another xbox 5-6 years from now. Depends on how successful scorpio is and if MS wants to keep putting out a box.
freeofgreed
Member
Didn't he say that like half a year ago though? The plan could've easily changed.
Why would he want MS to back pedal on what they promised? Scorpio is not a new gen, both XBO and Scorpion will play the exact same games, with one running them at higher res/settings/etc. It's exactly like the Pro in concept but more powerful.
Insane Metal
Member
We know.
InsaneTiger
Member
Right, all games will have to work on the One and the Scorpion. How is that different from the Pro?
Team Filler
Member
Probably for the best. Microsoft exclusives have a tendency to disappear.
Then it's just an XB1.
Which, IMO, doesn't sound like next gen. If it is, then Microsoft would have to do something unprecedented.
Sounds like a PC.
The post in question.
Jaguar Victory
Member
This. Whatever, I'm ready to see the games. People will bash it no matter what it has under the hood. Someone out there to dislike everything. I'm looking forward to it.
BTW: can people not separate new generation from exclusive games?
Hoho for breakfast
Member
This is from that same thread. Albert Penello says they've been "pretty clear" on the point of whether it's a new gen console or an upgraded Xbox One.
Which is why I don't think it's so clear when a dev says something like this.
Which is why I don't think it's so clear when a dev says something like this.
The Salt Life
Banned
Idk, I mean I still hear people calling this gen "next gen" so that may not be saying much.
But damn this roller coaster up and down, is it or is it not more powerful than we think?
Either way Microsoft has my attention.
Do they show this thing at E3 or before?
But damn this roller coaster up and down, is it or is it not more powerful than we think?
Either way Microsoft has my attention.
Do they show this thing at E3 or before?
ChrisMahoney
Banned
What if Scorpio 2 games can be played on Scorpio but not on XB1?
There is no "new gen" according to you. From now on new games can be played on the last two consoles.
SystemUser
Member
All GameBoy and GameBoy color games work on the GameBoy Advance. Was the GBA not a different generation from the original GameBoy?
That's what comes to mind when I read next generation console.
No idea, I don't follow hardware much.
LordOcidax
Member
This read more like a demage control and increase hype based on power is not good right now after the Eurogamer leak... But is going to be fun to watch..
Irishonion
Member
Receipts brah.
Bronetta
Ask me about the moon landing or the temperature at which jet fuel burns. You may be surprised at what you learn.
Wouldnt be the first time an employee said something which caused Microsoft to backpedal.
OP typed it up wrong.
Team Filler
Member
Scorpio is a real beefy machine. We're not talking 93/7 ground chuck here, but full-blown ribeye.
The thing is there is not enough advantage to make a "4k" game on Scorpio that couldn't run at 900p/1080p on regular XBO.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
PS4 pro is supposed to be a stop gap console. It's supposed to be half assed. Sony isn't as dumb as Microsoft and made it clear from day 1 that there will be no exclusives on the pro. They understand how important generations are to the industry.
This 6tflop console is only 3x more powerful than the ps4 and 4x more powerful than the x1. I have no fucking idea how that is a generational leap.
This 6tflop console is only 3x more powerful than the ps4 and 4x more powerful than the x1. I have no fucking idea how that is a generational leap.
Nightengale
Member
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
In terms of perception, the hardware is kind of irrelevant if it shares the exact same software library as the lower-end SKU.
You can't have your cake and eat it too. If its a "new generation" it needs an exclusive library to justify its billing, if it doesn't its just an upgraded version of the current platform because its offering only the same experiences at a higher level of fidelity.
You can't have your cake and eat it too. If its a "new generation" it needs an exclusive library to justify its billing, if it doesn't its just an upgraded version of the current platform because its offering only the same experiences at a higher level of fidelity.
Most likely Scorpio is the bridge between Xbox One and future Xbox consoles using UWP exclusively. Meaning future Xbox consoles will be forward and backward compatible like PC games. So whatever Xbox 4 is, it'll play Gears of War 4 and it'll scale to whatever hardware that console has because it's essentially running the Windows 10 version.
So yeah if that's true then it's sort of a next gen console? Maybe not in the traditional leap that we're used to but in the idea of offering a new "gaming platform".
So yeah if that's true then it's sort of a next gen console? Maybe not in the traditional leap that we're used to but in the idea of offering a new "gaming platform".
EVA UNIT 01
Member
Nah fam
Im getting more and more happy with my PC choices last year
Im getting more and more happy with my PC choices last year
InsaneTiger
Member
Just moar power like we already knew before. More 4K, games will also play on One S.
Unless, Phil breaks it away and allows Scorpion exclusives.
Samurai G0SU
Member
I believe his post happened before the Scorpio white paper leak. So Idk if it's literally damage control....
It's a literal definition of gaf -> Internet-> gaf
More like a pc. The new xbox consoles will treat generations in gaming the same way pc does. With stronger hardware and forward/backwards compatibility.
I linked it above.
So Mahler is basically saying that there will be exclusive games for it, which is in direct contrast to MS's messaging.
I love when gaming sites report on posts like this.
I had found it and posted it at the same time as you, haha.
I love when gaming sites report on posts like this.
I had found it and posted it at the same time as you, haha.
GameAddict411
Member
But the leaked document that DF discussed mentioned that the base game has to run on the XO. If that was the case, then it's not a next gen system. Also the lack of a CPU upgrade will significantly limit what it can do with games. At this point we won't be seeing any advanced CPU workloads if it's truly next gen.