BackLogJoe
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Bannon calling the shots is kind of shocking to me.
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PoliGAF 2017 |OT1| From Russia with Love
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Bannon calling the shots is kind of shocking to me.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Most of those people were lying.
Could be fake, but I am honestly frightened at how believable this sounds.Holy shit have you guys seen this? Supposedly there was a leak inside the White House. The twitter account has since been deleted.
https://imgur.com/a/TSrPJ
metalslimer
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Im still shocked ryan is going along with the wall. Not that he gives a shit about people, but it seems like something he wouldnt want to spend time with. Maybe Trump promised to destroy medicare and SS for his support
After that stupid conference lying about Trump's inauguration size, none of this would shock me in the slightest if it turns out to be true.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Trump doesn't know how to count to 60 if he's pledged that.
RustyNails
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That insider twitter sounded incredibly accurate, and far too scary to be fake. I actually do believe Priebus is holding the west wing together. And also Priebus cries into his bowl of cereal every night. This is just way too believable.
Dubbedinenglish
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This is all far worse than I've ever imagined
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
priebus is holding the country together
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Lets not get crazy
metalslimer
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It's interesting Trump said in the ABC interview that DACA recipients shouldn't worry when an executive order is on the table to scrap it and without congressional action they are fucked. Might be potential conflict. Or he might be lying out of his ass.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Okay then.
Wasn't there an article that said Bannon and Miller are drafting these orders?
Bonen no Max'd
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@WhiteHouseLeak is already gone now, I tried looking them up and they're absent Twitter
benicillin
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Meanwhile Trump is barely holding himself together. The ABC interview he's like unwinding. Can not stop talking about his standing ovation (rivaled only by Peyton Manning) and his fucking crowd size.
Our nation is being held together by an inter-dimensional trickster imp. There's no way this doesn't end bloody.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Let's set these probabilities.
1. China invades and conquers Taiwan by 2018.
2. Trump bombs NK by 2018.
3. Trump proposes a land invasion of Mexico by 2018.
4. Trump proposes a land invasion of Russia by 2018.
1. China invades and conquers Taiwan by 2018.
2. Trump bombs NK by 2018.
3. Trump proposes a land invasion of Mexico by 2018.
4. Trump proposes a land invasion of Russia by 2018.
jack_package_200
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davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
im sure it was easy to sniff the wifi and see who was posting.
UberTag
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It'll get legitimacy if Priebus resigns. We can panic then. (Well, panic more anyhow.)
NobleXenon
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Wouldn't surprise me if old fucks are willing to give up their ONLY retirement plan and ONLY medical coverage to feel safe against Mexicans. Building a wall with entitlements paying for it seems logical for the average Boomer.
Yeah, but that also means it sounds exactly like what someone who wanted to fake this would write.
I'm not saying it is fake or that it isn't, just that really, we should take all of this with a grain of salt. And really, if the leaker was serious about this he should've went and find a reporter to talk with.
Carpe Libertatem
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Zero chance of this happening. AARP wouldn't stand for it and they're the most powerful lobbying group in the country
Nazgul_Hunter
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I mean have your seen the shit leaking out? It's been constant
ShironRedshift
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Indeed. And the most fascinating thing is that this has mostly been forgotten and there were and there still are D many hot-takes concerning the election that we have to cozy up to moderate Republicans and "moderate" Trump voters to win next time. But that's exactly what Hillary tried to do! And at the time, she got a lot of flack for it and it turns out all her efforts in that area accomplished nothing! But next time is supposed to be different and cozying up to them suddenly will work and they'll suddenly have a complete change of heart? Ain't gonna happen and it's frustrating that so many people are all aboard that train anyway. Sigh...
Cesare Borgia
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I can't help but feel less concerned about Trump at this point. It hasn't been a week and he has burned his political capitol and destroyed the WH's messaging on a daily basis with statements or tweets that are more and more unhinged. Meanwhile his WH is under staffed and ineffective. There's already and ugly power struggle going on between Conway, Bannon, and the wonder boy son-in-law who will bring peace to the Middle East. The media is upset, republican allies seem confused, protests everywhere, etc.
This is unsustainable. Remember this transition was nothing like 2009: there is no massive crisis that needs fixing. Trump could have easily rolled out an impressive agenda, got things done, and reassured people that he can do the job. Instead he's doing a million things at once while setting himself on fire.
I can't help but think Pence will be president by 2020. This is utter madness.
This is unsustainable. Remember this transition was nothing like 2009: there is no massive crisis that needs fixing. Trump could have easily rolled out an impressive agenda, got things done, and reassured people that he can do the job. Instead he's doing a million things at once while setting himself on fire.
I can't help but think Pence will be president by 2020. This is utter madness.
won't be surprised if it is pence by the end of 2017 honestly
UberTag
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You seem rather optimistic that Trump can last 3 years.
You seem rather optimistic that Trump can last until the end of the year.
I'd be less concerned if Trump wasn't burning the country to the ground in the process.
Those Vox leaks are horrifying.
Ether_Snake
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So I have been thinking, how unlikely is it that Trump is being pushed to sign all these executive actions because they want to set the "direction" or tone as to what the next four years are about, so that they can then get rid of him and move on at their own pace, and tweak things over time?
I mean, at the pace things are going, either Trump has told them that by the end of the month he'll be chilling and doing nothing but campaigning here and then when he feels like it, or he's being rushed cause he won't be standing as president for long. Maybe he just wants to sign all that stuff and then resign, saying he set the direction and Pence will now handle it.
I don't know, things are just weird right now, like everyone is putting up a facade. It's like those moments when a community plays along when a kid with a life-threatening condition is dressing up as Spider Man for a day and they pretend he's a real hero.
I mean, at the pace things are going, either Trump has told them that by the end of the month he'll be chilling and doing nothing but campaigning here and then when he feels like it, or he's being rushed cause he won't be standing as president for long. Maybe he just wants to sign all that stuff and then resign, saying he set the direction and Pence will now handle it.
I don't know, things are just weird right now, like everyone is putting up a facade. It's like those moments when a community plays along when a kid with a life-threatening condition is dressing up as Spider Man for a day and they pretend he's a real hero.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
i think thats a perfect way to describe what is going on.
like, what is actually going on is not readily apparent and people are pretending things arent bad
RustyNails
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Well Hillary did enjoy some success with her strategy. She got the endorsement of Republican leaning newspapers that did not endorse a democrat for 100 years. Blaming Republicans would have energized a few loyalists, but not bring any new faces in. The problem was that they thought Republicans, like newspapers, were level headed and reasonable and would come in flocks. Another reason why this strategy was tantalizing was because it provided once in a lifetime opportunity to poach republicans from a toxic madman riding slipshod their party. But as much as I would have enjoyed hearing it, I don't think blasting Republicans could have gotten her the white house or changed the numbers. It's a zero-sum game. She maybe would have brought in a few fence sitters (and that's a maybe) but have lost moderate Republicans who were actually voting for her.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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This was actually a Clickhole article.
http://www.clickhole.com/article/heartwarming-when-terminally-ill-6-year-old-wanted-2866
When their rhetoric contributed to the gutting of environmental protections and blowjobs for the rich, they're as far left as a stop sign.
Ether_Snake
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That could pay off for Dems in 2020 if Trump is a mess and he's still running. We could see a repeat of this, but without Hillary and with Trump having lost his outsider boost.
Dominican Power
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Tulsi Gabbard needs to be primaried asap. The fuck is she doing?
Bonen no Max'd
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Hillary actually did succeed at making inroads into Republican voters, considering her improved numbers with college white voters. The downside is that this gave up Midwestern working class voters and (probably, this is just an assumption on my part based on anecdotal evidence) helped depress young minority turnout, the groups she was already shakiest with.
StopMakingSense
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If Priebus resigns I imagine that could be a canary for impending impeachment.
neurosisxeno
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0% across the board. I'm sitting on about 33% chance Trump invades Iran though.
RustyNails
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I mean, do you honestly think the millenial turnout would benefit from a punished Hillary? They would just go Iraq War Wall Street Suprepredator some more and tuned her out.
In my headcanon Huma beats Trump in 2020.
Bonen no Max'd
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What do you mean, a punished Hillary? I just saw comments during her "it's okay to vote for me if you're a Republican" phase that were "she assumes we'll vote for her and jumps straight to Republicans", which is a bad idea with the crowd who is most angry about superpredators, Iraq, and Wall Street to begin with.
RustyNails
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Basically Hillary going full attack mode on Republicans. I dont think attacking Republicans would have garnered any millenial votes for Hillary. The problems millenials had with with her were not related to her being soft on Republicans, but because she was toxified with her record on Iraq, her paid speeches, etc. There was no way for her to scrub that from her record to appease the millenials.
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