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[Fireblend]

No it wouldn't. They would have to prove that the person knew it was stolen at the time of purchase. Good luck. I would make them prove in court that it was lifted before I surrendered the product. People have rights.

Pretty sure claiming ignorance as a defense is uh, not a valid defense. There's plenty of precedence for the way it turns out.

 

[roytheone]

Nintendo is fully in their right to demand the switch back. If hiphop wants his money back, that's between him and the person he bought it from, Nintendo doesn't have anything ti do with that.

 

[Futureman]

hiphop should get a free Switch with Zelda and 1-2 Switch for cooperating.

if not that is lame and I wouldn't mind chipping in a few dollars. Hopefully Nintendo does him right.

 

[AAMARMO]

RIP Nintendo for taking away his console, thats how you dont get sales.

Spoiler

/s

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

...

It's times like this that I'm ashamed to be a paying GAF Gold member. I can only hope this is a phase we're all going through. Politically and gaming-wise, lately I don't know what's going on with some of my fellow human beans...

It's sarcasm.

 

[kitchenmotors]

You're saying they should go after the thief and that would require them to take the dudes console to help them.

Illegal leaks and fake news.

 

[Smellycat]

Is this true hiphoptherobot?

The reddit rumors?

 

[Sesuadra]

Speaking as a prosecutor, the legal analyses in this thread are quite entertaining.

why not enlighten people ? It would probably help the discussion

 

[Aalvi]

didn't this guy get it accidently shipped from a retailer?

 

[Draper]

I wonder if Horizon Zero Dawn will be ported to the Switch.

 

[Plum]

Indeed, I'm not upset with Nintendo or anything it's just the first time I've ever heard of a large company personally confiscating something like this from a person. They are well within their right to do so, it's just odd to me.

Ah, I read your post above. Sorry if mine came off a little too blunt. Yeah, this happens all the time but it's rarely publicized since it's generally just regular protocol. There's examples of it happening with stolen Steam codes before and I remember it kicking up just as much of a fuss.

 

[GamerJM]

I gotta say after reading that topic I'm curious about where it was stolen from, why it was stolen, how many people the Switch swapped hands with before it finally ended up in HHR's hands, etc. I don't think we should pry if he doesn't want to tell us but I'm just curious about stuff like this, lol. There was an article on some website a while back about a guy who leaked a bunch of rap music online pre-release in the late 90s/early 2000s and it was interesting seeing how he was able to do it (he worked in a warehouse where it was being printed) and why.

 

[Rellik]

hiphop should get a free Switch with Zelda and 1-2 Switch for cooperating.

if not that is lame and I wouldn't mind chipping in a few dollars. Hopefully Nintendo does him right.

You people are too much.

He's lucky he doesn't have the Police knocking on his door. He deserves nothing.

 

[CambriaRising]

your post doesn't make much sense if you did, the Switch was stolen. good luck in court lol.

Again, Nintendo would have to prove it in a court of law before I surrendered the hardware.

 

[WadeitOut]

didn't this guy get it accidently shipped from a retailer?

Alright we are on page nine now. No reason to not read the OP Edit.

 

[LeleSocho]

Clearly no bias in this post. Nope. None.

Bias about effin' what? I was raised with bread and Nintendo since i was 3, do you really think i would say a different thing if Microsoft or Sony did the same thing?
If something knowing myself i would be probably be even more aggressive on the matter if the other two hw manufacturers pulled the same thing lol

 

[Fireblend]

didn't this guy get it accidently shipped from a retailer?

If only this was clarified in the OP...

 

[WordAssassin]

Indeed, I'm not upset with Nintendo or anything it's just the first time I've ever heard of a large company personally confiscating something like this from a person. They are well within their right to do so, it's just odd to me.

Ok so you DON'T know what happened with the iPhone 4

For reference: an Apple employee was testing an iPhone 4 months before it was revealed. It was left in a bar, someone took it home, and leaked pictures of it. Gawker saw it, and bought the phone. Apple took them to court because they bought stolen goods.

It doesn't actually matter if you know something is stolen when you buy it, if it is stolen at any point during its journey from the manufacturer to your hands, you can get in the shit for buying stolen goods. In a case like this, where it sounds like HHR did not actually realize it was stolen, you can be let off the hook if the company wants to be nice about it. But if you try to dig in and say you legally bought it, you will wind up in court.

 

[Diprosalic]

This is bombing worse than the WiiU sales are even going backwards.

 

[DrROBschiz]

Hip Hop did the right thing

I suppose if he Knows the seller personally or can give police info on the sellers that... uhh.... "scammed him" then he could pursue that avenue to get his money back?


ehhhh... he is better off eating the loss i guess.

 

[ChrisD]

Sucks for HHTR if obtained unknowingly illegally as the initial story said
Sucks for Nintendo due to the press this will get them

This is quite the mess


Still really glad to have seen the UI early since Ninty don't seem to want to give a Direct on these things.

 

[Sesuadra]

didn't this guy get it accidently shipped from a retailer?

why not read the OP?

 

[Dark Cloud]

Again, Nintendo would have to prove it in a court of law before I surrendered the hardware.

Nintendo has to prove the Switch was stolen?

 

[Curler]

hiphop should get a free Switch with Zelda and 1-2 Switch for cooperating.

if not that is lame and I wouldn't mind chipping in a few dollars. Hopefully Nintendo does him right.

"Thank you for giving us back the stolen goods that you showed off across the Internet, while everyone else is embargoed from doing so! Here, have a free one, on us!"

Is this true hiphoptherobot?

The reddit rumors?

What rumors?

 

[Fireblend]

Again, Nintendo would have to prove it in a court of law before I surrendered the hardware.

They know the serial numbers of the stolen Switches, it wouldn't be hard.

 

[etrain911]

You people are too much.

He's lucky he doesn't have the Police knocking on his door. He deserves nothing.

Why? Because he unknowingly bought stolen hardware and immediately cooperated when pressed by the company it was stolen from?

 

[cw_sasuke]

FUCK ME IGNORE MY POSTS

lol this post pre edit was pure gold... Love GAF.

 

[CambriaRising]

Sucks for Nintendo due to the press this will Get them.

No it doesn't. This guy's videos got them free advertisement, they could have taken the $300 loss without being petty.

 

[Plum]

The burden of proof is always on the plaintiff. Every time. Some of you guys really don't know your rights.

If it went to court the console would assuredly be seized in a raid as well, so all Nintendo would have to do is cross-reference the Serial Number with the shipment they knew was stolen (which they've likely already done, hence why they asked for it back).

 

[Draper]

Speaking as a prosecutor, the legal analyses in this thread are quite entertaining.

Playing Ace Attorney in the parking lot of your local community college doesn't make you a prosecutor.

 

[Glass Shark]

The part hidden in the random "I'm a barista" post needs to be front and center, none of the other quoted posts mention the fact that this is "clearly" stolen like so many of you are claiming, and the screenshotted post below that he implies it wasn't stolen. So everyone get off your fucking high horse of "LMAO READ THE OP" when the relevant info so many of you are citing is buried as shit.

 

[Spiral Insanity]

I am more worried about him still getting his pre-order. Hopefully this didn't mess anything up and he still gets his Switch.

Information wants to be free.

 

[Smellycat]

"Thank you for giving us back the stolen goods that you showed off across the Internet, while everyone else is embargoed from doing so! Here, have a free one, on us!"






What rumors?

nvm I don't want to spread potentially false rumors

 

[kitchenmotors]

Is this true hiphoptherobot?

The reddit rumors?

Oh shit.

Even more shady as fuck.

Jesus.

EDIT: Dude, you got lucky they let you off. Seriously.

 

[Hattori]

Again, Nintendo would have to prove it in a court of law before I surrendered the hardware.

no they just need a warrant, which they will have since they have a record of serial numbers when sending shipments of consoles.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

If anyone is at fault, it's Chad Warden.

 

[mindatlarge]

I would have done the same thing if I was him, give the console back. If the console was stolen, Nintendo has all the laws in their corner, at least in the U.S. Handing it over willingly, beats Nintendo filing an injunction and getting the courts involved.

 

[TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared]

"Thank you for giving us back the stolen goods that you showed off across the Internet, while everyone else is embargoed from doing so! Here, have a free one, on us!"






What rumors?

Apparently he tried to sell it on reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoSw...ndo_has_taken_back_the_leaked_switch_console/

 

[oti]

This is bombing even worse than the WiiU sales are even going backwards.

Now this is a quality post.

 

[theaffection]

Oh shit.

Even more shady as fuck.

Jesus.

What are the reddit rumors?!?! You can't leave us hanging!!!

 

[wmlk]

For people saying read the OP...the OP doesn't do a good job of compiling the information really. It's confusing, especially with HHTR's posts being all over the place.

 

[Curler]

No it doesn't. This guy's videos got them free advertisement, they could have taken the $300 loss without being petty.

"We are glad that a system no one else can even show off now, was shown off before it was supposed to! Just keep it man! You did everyone a favor!"

 

[Smellycat]

Apparently he tried to sell it on reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoSw...ndo_has_taken_back_the_leaked_switch_console/

I wanted to avoid posting this because I am hoping it is not true. This is how Nintendo probably found out. The serial number is visible

 

[DrROBschiz]

Sucks for HHTR if obtained unknowingly illegally as the initial story said
Sucks for Nintendo due to the press this will get them

This is quite the mess


Still really glad to have seen the UI early since Ninty don't seem to want to give a Direct on these things.

it would be REALLY hard for him to argue that he unknowingly bought it stolen

Mostly cause he is aware he had it 2 weeks early, he didnt get it from a retailer, and he posted videos online that trace back to him.

Ignorance is only a valid defense if the buyer is... actually ignorant of the product

Hes really lucky that he only lost some money

 

[EloquentM]

Speaking as a prosecutor, the legal analyses in this thread are quite entertaining.

Enlighten us

 

[Madame M]

Someone else that doesn't understand business law.

There's more at play than business law.

 

[CambriaRising]

Nintendo has to prove the Switch was stolen?

You can't just go up to someone and say "thats mine" and expect everyone to hand it over without proof.

They know the serial numbers of the stolen Switches, it wouldn't be hard.

Of course not, but I would still make them go through the motions.

 

[Askherserenity]

Apparently he tried to sell it on reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoSw...ndo_has_taken_back_the_leaked_switch_console/

Well...

 

[Jerm411]

Oh shit.

Even more shady as fuck.

Jesus.

EDIT: Dude, you got lucky they let you off. Seriously.

Wait...what are we talking about here???

 

[finalflame]

Why? Because he unknowingly bought stolen hardware and immediately cooperated when pressed by the company it was stolen from?

Really? You suspect nothing is weird when someone wants to sell you unreleased hardware over two weeks ahead of release? The legal standard for these types of things is "knew or should have known", which applies perfectly here.

If I were Nintendo I'd still give him a free Switch, though. Just for the positive PR. But it could also be seen as endorsing someone who clearly bought stolen or otherwise dubiously acquired goods.