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Milo Yiannopoulous disinvited from CPAC after comments condoning pedophilia

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Sub Boss said:
He went against their white boys.even the church keeps it a secret,but Milo was too dumb to make those comments finally revealing his weird nature.

This says more about the Republican/conservative values than Milo though.
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I imagine graduating from an 8chan doxxer to speaker at a major conservative convention came as a surprise to everyone.

Including the younger dumber version of him that made these statements on these podcasts.

Veritigo_X said:
Their current headline about this story is: "MILO: One Gay Brit Has Done More For Conservatism Than 30 Years of Establishment Conservatives"

so.... yeah.
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The comments are the best. Read "best" first then "newest". The tone shift is sublime.
 
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Frozenprince

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Bronx-Man said:
What is with this obsession with semantics on the internet?

Congrats, you know the difference between pedophilia and pederasty! It makes no difference whatsoever on the discussion and no effect on anyone's opinion, but at least you get to show the world you know words really well?
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Snagret

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Bronx-Man said:
What is with this obsession with semantics on the internet?

Congrats, you know the difference between pedophilia and pederasty! It makes no difference whatsoever on the discussion and no effect on anyone's opinion, but at least you get to show the world you know words really well?
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When you don't have anything meaningful to say, crack open that dictionary and go to town.
 
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Oblivion said:
But Milo was talking about adults having sex with 13 year olds, which is why I wasn't getting the distinction.

edit: I mean, if you want to doubly extra pedantic, I believe 13 year olds start high school in places like Japan, but come on now.
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To continue down the semantic road that pretty much we are all gonna regret; his point was that there's a difference between someone who hasnt hit puberty yet at all, and someone who presumably hit puberty(13) and presumably already starting to experiment. Problem is while some cultures and old societies were cool with it it doesnt take more then a slight breeze for the argument to fall apart (maturity/societal power difference is rife for abuse, someone that young doesnt understand boundries, along with the fucked up fact you're basically stealing someones teen years like a vampire, etc).

I can get how a discussion can be had on the nuance even if they are all bad; unfortunately Milo isnt a psychiatrist, sociologist or someone who understands...he just trolled himself off a ledge.
 
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Juanadams

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I would like to respond in defense of some of Milo's points. Now I am in no way a Milo supporter, but I do feel like you guys are playing into exactly what he loves to call out about liberals. I feel like a lot of people didn't watch the video and are just responding to an edited version of his words (and I hesitate to make that suggestion in this blurred media era we find ourselves in due to the derision of the media by our president.)

But please allow me to express my point of view on his thoughts:



Another man says: “The whole consent thing for me. It’s not this black and white thing that people try to paint it. Are there some 13-year-olds out there capable of giving informed consent to have sex with an adult, probably…” The man says, “The reason these age of consent laws exist is because we have to set some kind of a barometer here, we’ve got to pick some kind of an age…”
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What is so egregious about this statement? Age of consent is not black and white. It's a very cloudy subject which can never properly be nailed down. No one can know the level and maturity of another persons mind and people mature at different rates. Which leads me to believe it's entirely possible that there is out there in the world a 13 year old mature enough to consent and also a 28 year old who isn't.

Milo: “The law is probably about right, that’s probably roughly the right age. I think it’s probably about okay, but there are certainly people who are capable of giving consent at a younger age, I certainly consider myself to be one of them, people who are sexually active younger. I think it particularly happens in the gay world by the way. In many cases actually those relationships with older men…This is one reason I hate the left. This stupid one size fits all policing of culture. (People speak over each other). This sort of arbitrary and oppressive idea of consent, which totally destroys you know understanding that many of us have. The complexities and subtleties and complicated nature of many relationships. You know, people are messy and complex. In the homosexual world particularly. Some of those relationships between younger boys and older men, the sort of coming of age relationships, the relationships in which those older men help those young boys to discover who they are, and give them security and safety and provide them with love and a reliable and sort of a rock where they can’t speak to their parents. Some of those relationships are the most -”
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It's not entirely crazy to believe that in this world we find ourselves in there have been many situations where young gay men have been ostracized by there families and communities and older gay men have been a positive force in there lives. But it's a blurry line and the fact that plenty of those relationships would have been negative is why we have the laws we do.

It sounds like Catholic priest molestation to me, another man says, interrupting Milo.

Milo: “And you know what, I’m grateful for Father Michael. I wouldn’t give nearly such good head if it wasn’t for him.”
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Now if you watch the video I find that this is clearly a very dark joke. And I personally found it hilarious.


Other people talk. Oh my God, I can’t handle it, one man says. The next thing in line is going to be pedophilia…says another man.

Milo: “You’re misunderstanding what pedophilia means. Pedophilia is not a sexual attraction to somebody 13-years-old who is sexually mature. Pedophilia is attraction to children who have not reached puberty. Pedophilia is attraction to people who don’t have functioning sex organs yet. Who have not gone through puberty. Who are too young to be able (unclear and cut off by others)…That’s not what we are talking about. You don’t understand what pedophilia is if you are saying I’m defending it because I’m certainly not.”
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Now this is 100% on the money. Cmon people, let's not let our emotions get in the way of facts. Pedophilia is sex with someone who has not reached puberty. Which milo doesn't speak about once.What he is referring to is either hebephilia or most likely ephebophilia. He's not wrong here guys. And look, I'm a existential and moral nihilist. We are animals, we have evolved and now have consciousness. But our animal nature remains. We are hard wired to be attracted to others once they hit puberty. And if god didn't gift us with morals, then we are own our own to determine which actions are destructive and which are productive. But how do you determine the moment a person becomes mature enough to consent? And who would decide?

That's why I feel like Milo needs a little defense here. He's not way off base on this one. Sorry guys.
 
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Juanadams said:
I would like to respond in defense of some of Milo's points. Now I am in no way a Milo supporter, but I do feel like you guys are playing into exactly what he loves to call out about liberals. I feel like a lot of people didn't watch the video and are just responding to an edited version of his words (and I hesitate to make that suggestion in this blurred media era we find ourselves in due to the derision of the media by our president.)

But please allow me to express my point of view on his thoughts:





What is so egregious about this statement? Age of consent is not black and white. It's a very cloudy subject which can never properly be nailed down. No one can know the level and maturity of another persons mind and people mature at different rates. Which leads me to believe it's entirely possible that there is out there in the world a 13 year old mature enough to consent and also a 28 year old who isn't.



It's not entirely crazy to believe that in this world we find ourselves in there have been many situations where young gay men have been ostracized by there families and communities and older gay men have been a positive force in there lives. But it's a blurry line and the fact that plenty of those relationships would have been negative is why we have the laws we do.



Now if you watch the video I find that this is clearly a very dark joke. And I personally found it hilarious.





Now this is 100% on the money. Cmon people, let's not let our emotions get in the way of facts. Pedophilia is sex with someone who has not reached puberty. Which milo doesn't speak about once.What he is referring to is either hebephilia or most likely ephebophilia. He's not wrong here guys. And look, I'm a existential and moral nihilist. We are animals, we have evolved and now have consciousness. But our animal nature remains. We are hard wired to be attracted to others once they hit puberty. And if god didn't gift us with morals, then we are own our own to determine which actions are destructive and which are productive. But how do you determine the moment a person becomes mature enough to consent? And who would decide?

That's why I feel like Milo needs a little defense here. He's not way off base on this one. Sorry guys.
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mkenyon

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As a leftist who is probably further left than anyone here except for the guy with the commie avatar, I find it disturbing when people can go to the ends of the earth to discuss the difference between sex and gender (which I get and appreciate), but when talking about someone they hate, labels become pedantic.

Furthermore, it is described as pedantic for reasons other than what I listed. Y'all think I'm trying to defend sexual assault and child molestation because you all can't wait to unleash your superior morals on people you're not even taking the time to understand.

Seriously, this kind of blind righteousness makes these threads on GAF insufferable when they could otherwise be good conversations and include more than the handful of posters that show up and shut down any sort of conversation through condemnation and derision.

Here you are talking down to someone that you know nothing about, and I'm on the same fucking team.
 
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mkenyon said:
As a leftist who is probably further left than anyone here except for the guy with the commie avatar, I find it disturbing when people can go to the ends of the earth to discuss the difference between sex and gender (which I get and appreciate), but when talking about someone they hate, labels become pedantic.

Furthermore, it is described as pedantic for reasons other than what I listed. Y'all think I'm trying to defend sexual assault and child molestation because you all can't wait to unleash your superior morals on people you're not even taking the time to understand.

Seriously, this kind of blind righteousness makes these threads on GAF insufferable when they could otherwise be good conversations and include more than the handful of posters that show up and shut down any sort of conversation through condemnation and derision.

Here you are talking down to someone that you know nothing about, and I'm on the same fucking team.
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we got a real victim here
 
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Juanadams said:
I would like to respond in defense of some of Milo's points. Now I am in no way a Milo supporter, but I do feel like you guys are playing into exactly what he loves to call out about liberals. I feel like a lot of people didn't watch the video and are just responding to an edited version of his words (and I hesitate to make that suggestion in this blurred media era we find ourselves in due to the derision of the media by our president.)

But please allow me to express my point of view on his thoughts:





What is so egregious about this statement? Age of consent is not black and white. It's a very cloudy subject which can never properly be nailed down. No one can know the level and maturity of another persons mind and people mature at different rates. Which leads me to believe it's entirely possible that there is out there in the world a 13 year old mature enough to consent and also a 28 year old who isn't.



It's not entirely crazy to believe that in this world we find ourselves in there have been many situations where young gay men have been ostracized by there families and communities and older gay men have been a positive force in there lives. But it's a blurry line and the fact that plenty of those relationships would have been negative is why we have the laws we do.



Now if you watch the video I find that this is clearly a very dark joke. And I personally found it hilarious.





Now this is 100% on the money. Cmon people, let's not let our emotions get in the way of facts. Pedophilia is sex with someone who has not reached puberty. Which milo doesn't speak about once.What he is referring to is either hebephilia or most likely ephebophilia. He's not wrong here guys. And look, I'm a existential and moral nihilist. We are animals, we have evolved and now have consciousness. But our animal nature remains. We are hard wired to be attracted to others once they hit puberty. And if god didn't gift us with morals, then we are own our own to determine which actions are destructive and which are productive. But how do you determine the moment a person becomes mature enough to consent? And who would decide?

That's why I feel like Milo needs a little defense here. He's not way off base on this one. Sorry guys.
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Let's address this simply: if a 13 year old came up to you and wanted to have sex, claiming their own maturity and no one would find out, do you think it would be right or correct of you to fuck that 13 year old?
 
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I want to believe, just so somebody will troll Crowder as the snowflake he is. Just look at his appearance on Joe Rogan last week. Sure, Rogan was in rare, semi-dickish form, but it was warranted IMO when Crowder was being a little bitch about certain topics.
 
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Juanadams said:
That's why I feel like Milo needs a little defense here. He's not way off base on this one. Sorry guys.
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LOL. What's happening now is Milo's own MO tho; take out all nuance, context and set his troll army to attack them. That's what makes this rich, he's dying by his own sword. He deserves no defence, he's done shit like this to many other people, people smart enough not to pepper jokes about how getting molested made him give better oral in a possibly serious discussion on pedophilia. let him burn
 
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sphagnum said:
Well, of course. That stuff is essential to their political philosophy. And truth be told, a lot of alt right people are fine with what he said here since they're into loli hentai. But child abuse has generally been something that people across the political spectrum find appalling, so if there was something to do him in this would be it.
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JordanN said:
The alt-right have no principles. They only care about supporting what looks best for them and then quickly dispose of anyone who goes against that.

It's why people like Milo are huge idiots for aligning themselves with a group that oppresses anyone that doesn't meet their ideal "master race".
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You are probably right, that's what the alt-right believes and supports. Milo became a hindrance now, so they disposed of him, even if they still think he's right.
 
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Moff

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This is apparently from an older video. I knew the GOP would not tolerate an openly homosexual man to be one of their most prominent speakers, but I am surprised how fast this went, I wonder what this means for the rest of the alt right.
 
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Oblivion

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mkenyon said:
As a leftist who is probably further left than anyone here except for the guy with the commie avatar, I find it disturbing when people can go to the ends of the earth to discuss the difference between sex and gender (which I get and appreciate), but when talking about someone they hate, labels become pedantic.

Furthermore, it is described as pedantic for reasons other than what I listed. Y'all think I'm trying to defend sexual assault and child molestation because you all can't wait to unleash your superior morals on people you're not even taking the time to understand.

Seriously, this kind of blind righteousness makes these threads on GAF insufferable when they could otherwise be good conversations and include more than the handful of posters that show up and shut down any sort of conversation through condemnation and derision.

Here you are talking down to someone that you know nothing about, and I'm on the same fucking team.
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I mean, I guess if we were discussing such things specifically on an academic level, I don't think there would be such a negative reaction to what you said.

But what I'm still confused about is why this needs to be brought up in defense of a shitstain like Milo?
 
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krazen said:
LOL. What's happening now is Milo's own MO tho; take out all nuance, context and set his troll army to attack them. That's what makes this rich, he's dying by his own sword. He deserves no defence, he's done shit like this to many other people, people smart enough not to pepper a serious discussion on pedophilia about how getting molested helped him give better oral. let him burn
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Get what he's saying to a certain extent in his response, but he brought it on himself.
 
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Frozenprince

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mkenyon said:
As a leftist who is probably further left than anyone here except for the guy with the commie avatar, I find it disturbing when people can go to the ends of the earth to discuss the difference between sex and gender (which I get and appreciate), but when talking about someone they hate, labels become pedantic.

Furthermore, it is described as pedantic for reasons other than what I listed. Y'all think I'm trying to defend sexual assault and child molestation because you all can't wait to unleash your superior morals on people you're not even taking the time to understand.

Seriously, this kind of blind righteousness makes these threads on GAF insufferable when they could otherwise be good conversations and include more than the handful of posters that show up and shut down any sort of conversation through condemnation and derision.

Here you are talking down to someone that you know nothing about, and I'm on the same fucking team.
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Because the labels aren't important in this discussion. He's trying to frame his own bullshit as a disagreement on labels and emotional maturity. That it helps young gay men "discover themselves". That's a line straight out of am abusers playbook. It's destructive. It's damaging. Nothing about this argument is about the clinical definition of pederasty, that's asinine. This is not an academic exercise. This is real life. Milo's words have real impact. Arguing semantics is literally accomplishing nothing but giving him what he wants.

And stop trying to codify yourself with this "real leftist" crap, it's a bullshit line to try and give yourself moral high ground on anything.
 
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Mercury Fred

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Juanadams said:
I would like to respond in defense of some of Milo's points. Now I am in no way a Milo supporter, but I do feel like you guys are playing into exactly what he loves to call out about liberals. I feel like a lot of people didn't watch the video and are just responding to an edited version of his words (and I hesitate to make that suggestion in this blurred media era we find ourselves in due to the derision of the media by our president.)

But please allow me to express my point of view on his thoughts:





What is so egregious about this statement? Age of consent is not black and white. It's a very cloudy subject which can never properly be nailed down. No one can know the level and maturity of another persons mind and people mature at different rates. Which leads me to believe it's entirely possible that there is out there in the world a 13 year old mature enough to consent and also a 28 year old who isn't.



It's not entirely crazy to believe that in this world we find ourselves in there have been many situations where young gay men have been ostracized by there families and communities and older gay men have been a positive force in there lives. But it's a blurry line and the fact that plenty of those relationships would have been negative is why we have the laws we do.



Now if you watch the video I find that this is clearly a very dark joke. And I personally found it hilarious.





Now this is 100% on the money. Cmon people, let's not let our emotions get in the way of facts. Pedophilia is sex with someone who has not reached puberty. Which milo doesn't speak about once.What he is referring to is either hebephilia or most likely ephebophilia. He's not wrong here guys. And look, I'm a existential and moral nihilist. We are animals, we have evolved and now have consciousness. But our animal nature remains. We are hard wired to be attracted to others once they hit puberty. And if god didn't gift us with morals, then we are own our own to determine which actions are destructive and which are productive. But how do you determine the moment a person becomes mature enough to consent? And who would decide?

That's why I feel like Milo needs a little defense here. He's not way off base on this one. Sorry guys.
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DICKS AHOY

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I mean it's good to see everybody finally turn on this piece of shit but doesn't this kind of show Maher was in the right to have him on his show? Without the increased scrutiny from being on TV and having his talks this stuff may not have come out.
 
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Juanadams said:
I would like to respond in defense of some of Milo's points. Now I am in no way a Milo supporter, but I do feel like you guys are playing into exactly what he loves to call out about liberals. I feel like a lot of people didn't watch the video and are just responding to an edited version of his words (and I hesitate to make that suggestion in this blurred media era we find ourselves in due to the derision of the media by our president.)

But please allow me to express my point of view on his thoughts:





What is so egregious about this statement? Age of consent is not black and white. It's a very cloudy subject which can never properly be nailed down. No one can know the level and maturity of another persons mind and people mature at different rates. Which leads me to believe it's entirely possible that there is out there in the world a 13 year old mature enough to consent and also a 28 year old who isn't.



It's not entirely crazy to believe that in this world we find ourselves in there have been many situations where young gay men have been ostracized by there families and communities and older gay men have been a positive force in there lives. But it's a blurry line and the fact that plenty of those relationships would have been negative is why we have the laws we do.



Now if you watch the video I find that this is clearly a very dark joke. And I personally found it hilarious.





Now this is 100% on the money. Cmon people, let's not let our emotions get in the way of facts. Pedophilia is sex with someone who has not reached puberty. Which milo doesn't speak about once.What he is referring to is either hebephilia or most likely ephebophilia. He's not wrong here guys. And look, I'm a existential and moral nihilist. We are animals, we have evolved and now have consciousness. But our animal nature remains. We are hard wired to be attracted to others once they hit puberty. And if god didn't gift us with morals, then we are own our own to determine which actions are destructive and which are productive. But how do you determine the moment a person becomes mature enough to consent? And who would decide?

That's why I feel like Milo needs a little defense here. He's not way off base on this one. Sorry guys.
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LMAO

Gtfo with this shit. I can't believe your defending him even a little bit. Really? Trying to justify having sex with a 13 year old because they are emotionally mature??

Human beings are a fucking trash species. I can't believe I was brought in to this shit. I wish I was a ducking tree. Fuck outta here with that shit
 
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Barzul

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Juanadams said:
I would like to respond in defense of some of Milo's points. Now I am in no way a Milo supporter, but I do feel like you guys are playing into exactly what he loves to call out about liberals. I feel like a lot of people didn't watch the video and are just responding to an edited version of his words (and I hesitate to make that suggestion in this blurred media era we find ourselves in due to the derision of the media by our president.)

But please allow me to express my point of view on his thoughts:





What is so egregious about this statement? Age of consent is not black and white. It's a very cloudy subject which can never properly be nailed down. No one can know the level and maturity of another persons mind and people mature at different rates. Which leads me to believe it's entirely possible that there is out there in the world a 13 year old mature enough to consent and also a 28 year old who isn't.



It's not entirely crazy to believe that in this world we find ourselves in there have been many situations where young gay men have been ostracized by there families and communities and older gay men have been a positive force in there lives. But it's a blurry line and the fact that plenty of those relationships would have been negative is why we have the laws we do.



Now if you watch the video I find that this is clearly a very dark joke. And I personally found it hilarious.





Now this is 100% on the money. Cmon people, let's not let our emotions get in the way of facts. Pedophilia is sex with someone who has not reached puberty. Which milo doesn't speak about once.What he is referring to is either hebephilia or most likely ephebophilia. He's not wrong here guys. And look, I'm a existential and moral nihilist. We are animals, we have evolved and now have consciousness. But our animal nature remains. We are hard wired to be attracted to others once they hit puberty. And if god didn't gift us with morals, then we are own our own to determine which actions are destructive and which are productive. But how do you determine the moment a person becomes mature enough to consent? And who would decide?

That's why I feel like Milo needs a little defense here. He's not way off base on this one. Sorry guys.
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A 13 year old is not capable of informed consent. Wtf is wrong with you. You can't spin this anyway.
 
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Big One

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To be honest I've always legitimately thought that Milo's homosexuality is just a big part of his troll character. As a way to try justifying his homophobic and transphobic behavior aka "Look, gay people can be homophobic too!" i find a hard time believing this to be anything more than an act. It's really hard to tell with someone as phoney as Milo.
 
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Juanadams

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EdibleKnife said:
Let's address this simply: if a 13 year old came up to you and wanted to have sex, claiming their own maturity and no one would find out, do you think it would be right or correct of you to fuck that 13 year old?
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I think it could be correct if they were correct about the fact that they are mature enough, but because chances are they aren't mature enough and the fact that it could never be proven that she was mature enough, I wouldn't do it. All I'm stating is that it's impossible to prove whether destructive or productive, or moral/immoral if you prefer those words


And why is it when someone takes time to make detailed points they are returned with this defense force nonsense.
 
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Ominym

Banned
Juanadams said:
I would like to respond in defense of some of Milo's points.
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Could've saved yourself a lot of time by thinking this and then saying "nah".

There's nothing worth defending here and it seems like even some of his supporters finally agree. The end.
 
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B-Dubs

No Scrubs
Juanadams said:
I would like to respond in defense of some of Milo's points. Now I am in no way a Milo supporter, but I do feel like you guys are playing into exactly what he loves to call out about liberals. I feel like a lot of people didn't watch the video and are just responding to an edited version of his words (and I hesitate to make that suggestion in this blurred media era we find ourselves in due to the derision of the media by our president.)

But please allow me to express my point of view on his thoughts:





What is so egregious about this statement? Age of consent is not black and white. It's a very cloudy subject which can never properly be nailed down. No one can know the level and maturity of another persons mind and people mature at different rates. Which leads me to believe it's entirely possible that there is out there in the world a 13 year old mature enough to consent and also a 28 year old who isn't.



It's not entirely crazy to believe that in this world we find ourselves in there have been many situations where young gay men have been ostracized by there families and communities and older gay men have been a positive force in there lives. But it's a blurry line and the fact that plenty of those relationships would have been negative is why we have the laws we do.



Now if you watch the video I find that this is clearly a very dark joke. And I personally found it hilarious.





Now this is 100% on the money. Cmon people, let's not let our emotions get in the way of facts. Pedophilia is sex with someone who has not reached puberty. Which milo doesn't speak about once.What he is referring to is either hebephilia or most likely ephebophilia. He's not wrong here guys. And look, I'm a existential and moral nihilist. We are animals, we have evolved and now have consciousness. But our animal nature remains. We are hard wired to be attracted to others once they hit puberty. And if god didn't gift us with morals, then we are own our own to determine which actions are destructive and which are productive. But how do you determine the moment a person becomes mature enough to consent? And who would decide?

That's why I feel like Milo needs a little defense here. He's not way off base on this one. Sorry guys.
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Man, we got a defense force for fucking everything.
 
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