Benzychenz
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Does the parry work on yokai or only smaller enemies? I tried it but the timing felt weird so avoided it after that.
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Nioh |OT| Stamina is Ki
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Does the parry work on yokai or only smaller enemies? I tried it but the timing felt weird so avoided it after that.
Noooooooo..
The attacks pretty fast though and dodging them has rather strict timing.
Just get you luck as high as possible and it shouldn't be too bad. The fight is super easy too.
Cramped was the wrong choice of word, the room's just bare and does absolutely nothing to make the fight more interesting.
Am I? Throughout that level I sniped with a bow, lured and separated enemies, tossed items around corners while dodging evil wall rocks, stealthed past too-tough enemies, etc. etc. That's fun strategy, not "equip anti-paralysis and dodge and attack."
It's a good game in the levels. The bosses are shitty and arbitrary.
Spainkiller
the man who sold the world
Can someone who has the platinum trophy confirm that the 'Best And The Worst' twilight mission rewards the player with the White Tiger Fur material? As in, surely, not just as a chance drop percentage?
Completing that mission and getting that material is the last thing I need for the platinum
Oh, and how rare is the Nobunaga smithing text? :3
Completing that mission and getting that material is the last thing I need for the platinum
Oh, and how rare is the Nobunaga smithing text? :3
Bosses actually do that if we are talking about strategies against regular enemies. 1-on-1 encounters with enemies are basically just mashing with heavy stance. Just go in and hit that square until they are dead. With bosses you very much need to use low stance and get only couple hits in and back off. Almost none of the enemies require this kind of strategy. Especially in early game.
Furuta is great! Luck-boost helps a lot.
Trying to figure out what stats I should use on the iga set. Or go completly for a combination of 2 pieces of one set and 3/4 of another + yama magitana
You can farm the material from a mission.
Can someone who has the platinum trophy confirm that the 'Best And The Worst' twilight mission rewards the player with the White Tiger Fur material? As in, surely, not just as a chance drop percentage?
Completing that mission and getting that material is the last thing I need for the platinum
Oh, and how rare is the Nobunaga smithing text? :3
You can farm the material from a mission.
( The one with the big cat at the end. It's what I did)
Chaos2Frozen
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Kinky.
comshoplesce
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you can join clan after spidey?
Yu Narukami
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Just read my sentence lol. I meant Fatal Blow from behind.
H3rTz DoNuT
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So in order to get my Divine lvl150 gear to +1 I have to find +1 piece first? I did farm some revenants but no +1 do you get them from bosses?
do you get them from bosses?Chaos2Frozen
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Fextralite has finally have an updated list of all the armor set.
http://nioh.wiki.fextralife.com/Armor
Which is your favorite set?
And any "NOT warrior of west" medium armor set that is good? Maybe I should try crafting Yukimura's armor at high level...
http://nioh.wiki.fextralife.com/Armor
Which is your favorite set?
And any "NOT warrior of west" medium armor set that is good? Maybe I should try crafting Yukimura's armor at high level...
Imp the Dimp
Member
Got the plat. I'm the best.
I wanted to go with Red Demon, but it's a spear focussed set ):
Scousefury
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I use Kingo's set with the Katana as a stat stick for my main Dual Swords. The damage from behind bonus can lead to silly burst damage on bosses.
Auto_aim1
MeisaMcCaffrey
Okay I take it back, Skeleton boss was quite fun after spiking the crystals.
There's a Honda side mission don't worry. You can fight him but easier to destroy crystals.
There's a Honda side mission don't worry. You can fight him but easier to destroy crystals.
To me that's the best part. They are in Japan after all so it makes sense that everyone speaks Japanese. I think it's handled well and wish more games would do this.
Cool, thank you.
So, is there really a point to the mid stance? Maybe other than moveset? I mean, why wouldn't I either just maximize my attack with hi, or my defense with low?
I need some help.
I've litten the three fires in the house on the water level (the trophy just popped). I'm in the large room by the third fire. Now where do I go? I'm lost
On one end there's a hot spring. I can't climb back up to the boat. And I don't see an another exit to get out of this room. I'm stuck.
I've litten the three fires in the house on the water level (the trophy just popped). I'm in the large room by the third fire. Now where do I go? I'm lost
On one end there's a hot spring. I can't climb back up to the boat. And I don't see an another exit to get out of this room. I'm stuck.
texhnolyze
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Yeah, I actually wish more games would to this. Not exclusive to Japanese.
Crab Milk Mickey
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Boss rooms being bare I can agree with, but looking at how developers of action games in this type get environmental gimmicks wrong 99% of the time, be it making the fights too gimmicky or having it get in the way of the camera, I'd rather have them not bother. Team Ninja's own Ninja Gaiden games had some egregious examples with standard level design having wonky platforming or uneventful swimming to name two examples; misguided attempts of variety like that do nothing but make the total package worse since gimmicks along those lines are never given much thought nor polish. Nioh has a scant few bosses like this early into the campaign too, and they're (yet again) so underdeveloped it just ends up being a snore due to a low number of attack patterns and an additional emphasis on binary side-attractions before being allowed to enjoy the real meat of the mechanics without questionable interruptions.
Also: Nioh and Souls games alike have always been melee-centered, with ranged combat taking a clear backseat with how consistently basic the implementation for those methods of approach are. Perfectly understandable if that's not your cup of tea, but it shouldn't come off as surprising at this point with how this subgenre has been built upon over the years. Something like Dragon's Dogma sounds like it'll be more up your alley since it's one of the few action titles of that mold which lend ranged combat similar attention to detail next to melee combat. With that said however, it can still be made to work against these so-called "arbitrary" bosses if you're creative and there are still moments where you're able to sneak in pot shots.
There's ample footage out there that prove how absurdly false these pre-conceived requirement notions are.
You don't "need to back off," you can do more than "only get a couple hits in" and describing common enemy encounters as "just mash with heavy stance" goes to show you hardly dabbled with the tools the game gives players. While indeed not mandated, all stances have their 'preferred' situations and 'ideal' distances where they're universally useful, even moreso once you open up more abilities. On top of that, there's innate distinctions between human and Yokai bosses: the former have a multitude of moves that can be parried (see here and here) as well as comparatively consuming more stamina when on the offensive, and the latter have weak points + can get chain staggered + are prone to not fully refilling their stamina if you remove the Ki puddles in a timely fashion.
Beat the
boss last night! Got my first level 50 Raikiri!
Also, there's this single enemy side mission on a bridge (big dude with an axe). When I loaded in, the bridge was nothing but revenant markers. But then I managed to beat that dude on my second try. Wonder why so many people have trouble with that one.
spider
Also, there's this single enemy side mission on a bridge (big dude with an axe). When I loaded in, the bridge was nothing but revenant markers. But then I managed to beat that dude on my second try. Wonder why so many people have trouble with that one.
I'm using the Red Demon with a Tengu-Kiri with fire damage forged (also added that 20% close combat damage from yesterday GAF's farm lol) and Enko summon.
Atleast I take some out of it.
It annoys me how the Nami katana has higher base damage, although I don't know how much the multiplier attack adds on actual damage (there's less than 20 points of difference).
Augemitbutter
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even since i gave william short hair and put a headband on i'm thinking he just looks like old snake from mgs4 on the field. that wasn't the plan.
Chaos2Frozen
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Yeah I guess I should specify- I'm probably using a Katana/Dual katana with some Onmyou elemental buffs. I know Naomasa is the go to guy for spear build, who's the go to guy for Katanas?
(Also keeping an Onmyou head piece for increase casting speed)
GamingPheasant
Banned
Man, the first phase of
is easy with the Hand Cannon and Saika Rifle.
First, play-through almost finished. Anticipating, the last two missions with dread.
Yamata-no-Orochi
First, play-through almost finished. Anticipating, the last two missions with dread.
I need some help.
I've litten the three fires in the house on the water level (the trophy just popped). I'm in the large room by the third fire. Now where do I go? I'm lost
On one end there's a hot spring. I can't climb back up to the boat. And I don't see an another exit to get out of this room. I'm stuck.
Starting from the third fire room, go outside and you'll find a large wall blocking the access to the initial area of the level. Check the left side of the wall and you'll find a talisman hanging from it which you can interact with to "remove" the wall
From the room that contains the fire, you have two small doorway exits and a walkway basically directly in front of the fire. Follow that walkway to the end, where you should arrive to a seeming dead-end wall with an open center bit that with a very low fence type thing that you inexplicably can't just skip over. To your left, there is a bit of wall that has a scroll hung on it. Remove that scroll to get gain passage back to the rest of the level.I need some help.
I've litten the three fires in the house on the water level (the trophy just popped). I'm in the large room by the third fire. Now where do I go? I'm lost
On one end there's a hot spring. I can't climb back up to the boat. And I don't see an another exit to get out of this room. I'm stuck.
The scroll is actually the backside of a Nurikabe.
Edit: doh, ofc someone ninjas me
Congrats. A bit grindy towards the end but I found the trophy set largely fair. At least no covenant items or pure bladestone.
storafötter
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so it's good to have those bombs?
hey guys how do you determine which gear to keep, which to sell or dissesamble?
i get many time message "no space available"....so gotta drop worse gear to pickup better ones
Amrita all day!
I gotta say dissembling the weapons gives me ores I already have plenty of from before.
I always familiarize myself with most rare weapons I have already used and sell them for like 20 000 - 40 000 amrita.
Finally gotten to New Game plus! Now I gotta try to Platinum the game.
I agree. They are the worst "bosses" in the entire game. They are very predictable but they do not allow a lot of room to attack as they are fast. I notice projectiles work well on them.
Just to cover several posts at once. The +# stuff is Divine items only thing. Divine tier items become available basically at the end of NG. After they are unlocked, basically any divine item you can get outside of revenant drops might have a +# value. It might also not have one. The higher the mission level, the better your chances of getting divines with +# and the +# itself can be higher as well. As for upgrading the divine items further:
Thanks guys, I was going crazy. I did eventually find it on my own. I must have missed the wall from the other side. I was so sure there would be a switch or something to make a stair out of that weird ass wooden block that was in front of the large opening. So I was just walking around it looking when "remove talisman" or whatever showed up.From the room that contains the fire, you have two small doorway exits and a walkway basically directly in front of the fire. Follow that walkway to the end, where you should arrive to a seeming dead-end wall with an open center bit that with a very low fence type thing that you inexplicably can't just skip over. To your left, there is a bit of wall that has a scroll hung on it. Remove that scroll to get gain passage back to the rest of the level.The scroll is actually the backside of a Nurikabe.
Edit: doh, ofc someone ninjas me
I've seen a lot of bad words, or hatred even for the axe in here...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKUrVqLhil8
How can you hate on that, GAF? ^^
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKUrVqLhil8
How can you hate on that, GAF? ^^
Yeah fuck those things. Although the upside of fighting so many of them is I can now beat them without taking any damage most of the time. That sub-mission(5th area) where
you have a 2 v 1 Raven Tengu in a small arena was fucked...I was lucky to survive that.
IbukiLordSA
Member
Learn to discord them, I also hated them at first especially since they have no weakness and so much health, but once I learnt to discord these guys are as easy as any normal enemy now.
GwyndolinCinder
Member
Burst out laughing when i saw that first one coming.
Yet most of the time I watch those videos the players get only few hits in and back off outside of that Onryuki. Yes you can get more than few hits in when your opponent is out of Ki or you have gotten them down on the ground. You still need to back off in lot of cases and can only get few hits in.
With regular enemies you can just mash without ever backing off. Not even pressing a dodge button needed. Hell even Ki Pulse isn't mandatory most of the time. That kind of strategy doesn't work against bosses but it works through majority of the game because it throws the same enemies at you all the time.
edit.
Like I know there are more tools in the game but whats the point in using them against regular enemies when just mashing works and that requires barely any skill.
Augemitbutter
Member
tengu means lots of graves nearby. you can get mentally prepared at least. i think they're fun. 2 tengu can gtfo though.
I find them pretty easy to manage. After they do the spinning-kick, I press heavy attack (mid/high stance depending on the weapon) when the kick is about 1/3-half complete. That way the heavy strike hits it JUST after the kick, after which I block right away incase the Tengu swings his staff at my face.
And I may be wrong, but they seem to be weak to fire.
This has worked for me so far.
Nah. Those things are great. Only need couple of kicks and they are out of Ki.
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