MHWilliams
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Luke Cage (Diamondback) would be at the bottom of the list. I hate misusing quality stuff more than anything else.
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Marvel's Iron Fist |OT| Hi-yahh - March 17th on Netflix
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Luke Cage (Diamondback) would be at the bottom of the list. I hate misusing quality stuff more than anything else.
privitsan02
Member
The low-key racism, I get, even if it's not meant to be that. Especially after how dark/edgy Daredevil was, how Jessica Jones was about female empowerment and Luke Cage being a Shaft remake. Iron Fist sticks out as a sore thumb where it's about white people complaining about money and Asian culture appropriation to a certain extent.
I'd side with Marvel on it being accurate to the source material but it's not. They changed his origin. Additionally, the show is alright, it's not amazing, which makes it even more difficult to defend them because it's not doing anything new or amazingly well. It's straight average.
Iron Fist is one of the situations where them using an Asian actor would've helped. If they were okay with changing the Ancient One and Iron Fist's origin itself, it wouldn't have been that big of a change. I feel bad for the actors, because they probably did the best they could, but the writing is off, the story is largely uninteresting, meh action scenes and it has the misfortune of coming after the fairly progressive Marvel Netflix series.
Best wishes.
I'd side with Marvel on it being accurate to the source material but it's not. They changed his origin. Additionally, the show is alright, it's not amazing, which makes it even more difficult to defend them because it's not doing anything new or amazingly well. It's straight average.
Iron Fist is one of the situations where them using an Asian actor would've helped. If they were okay with changing the Ancient One and Iron Fist's origin itself, it wouldn't have been that big of a change. I feel bad for the actors, because they probably did the best they could, but the writing is off, the story is largely uninteresting, meh action scenes and it has the misfortune of coming after the fairly progressive Marvel Netflix series.
Best wishes.
I was worried this would be really bad but I'm on episode 6 and I'm really enjoying it. My worst complaint right now is I feel like Claire was very poorly introduced into the show, she just happens to decide to train with the one person in the city that knows Danny? They could've come up with a better setup than that.
krameriffic
Member
Yeah, I found myself getting unreasonably upset with how stupid the plot gets in the last few episodes.
Piku_Ringo
Banned
did these sons of bitches actually went ahead and
FUCKING RUINED BRIDE OF NINE SPIDER?!!!!.
LordRaptor
Member
That's literally exactly what they are though - although I guess "uniform" is the more correct term, but thats what Iron Fist mostly wears; some regular ass kung fu clothes in the colours of K'un Lun and usually showing the emblem of Shou-Lao (or his bare chest which is the same thing)
GravityInsanity
Member
Just finished Episode 5.....I don't know if I want to continue this show.
He replaced a much better villain, and his dialogue rarely matched the established tone of the show imo. If the show from the jump leaned more heavily into its blaxpoitation roots, I probably would've liked him a lot more instead. But nah, that isn't what happened, so most of the time he came off as being corny af
Additionally, the whole thing about him being
Luke's brother was just so dumb.
Also this:
It's the most skippable one yet, so...
SDCowboy
Member
Same. I'm on episode 5 now, and I don't know if I can can go on. lol
The Salt Life
Banned
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh yeah episode 9 I think? Looks like
dr Frank N Stein is back, see that's funny because he is poor man's Aaron Eckhart who did play Frankenstein in a film. I want him reunited with his daughter
brickarts295
Member
He replaced a much better villain, and his dialogue rarely matched the established tone of the show imo. If the show from the jump leaned more heavily into its blaxpoitation roots, I probably would've liked him a lot more instead. But nah, that isn't what happened, so most of the time he came off as being corny af
Additionally, the whole thing about him beingLuke's brother was just so dumb.
Also this:
It's the most skippable one yet, so...
Everytime I see that costume, all I'm thinking is the following line after that reveal
”What type of Jean Paul Gautier shit is this? What are you, a pimp stormtrooper?" XD
Had the best action in the entire show too
jasminlovesyoux
Banned
Opinions and all that, just finished ep 6 so I'm half way through the series and I gotta say this show got such a bad word of mouth its ridiculous,
Its just as good as the other Marvel Netflix shows, Daredevil season 1 is still my favorite of them but they all feel very slow at times with side characters doing crap nobody cares about. Iron Fist is on par with all of em. I don't get the hate. We'll see once I watch the second half but from what I gather if I were to hate it the beginning wouldve already made me do so.
Its just as good as the other Marvel Netflix shows, Daredevil season 1 is still my favorite of them but they all feel very slow at times with side characters doing crap nobody cares about. Iron Fist is on par with all of em. I don't get the hate. We'll see once I watch the second half but from what I gather if I were to hate it the beginning wouldve already made me do so.
The Salt Life
Banned
Is the hand in the comics? Is there like a graphics novel that captures all stories involving them? I think that's why I'm really loving this show and daredevil over the other marvel shows and why I'm really really going to love defenders. They just make really great villains. I just wish whatever sticks organization is more heavily involved in iron fist, always thought this would be the info dump series.
Exactly, this show is no where near the dumpster fire people made it out to be. Which is another reason why I'm enjoying. Came in expecting shit and instead I find myself just engrossed in it and trying to make it last as long as possible.
LordRaptor
Member
Yeah, but they're often a wolverine baddie because that way you can have wolverine snktbubbing his way through a pile of corpses, but its morally a-okay because they're all undead ninjas
Sanctuary
Member
Because the acting and dialogue are so over the top and ham-fisted in a really bad 80s B-movie kind of way. His outfit too just looks like a garbage man or janitor uniform with a Laser Tag set added on top of it. He manages to beat out Arrow's Spartan for most ridiculous retro look.
Haha. That was so fucking forehead slapping too. It's like REALLY?
You're going to give us how the entire show should have been in some quick, black and white history lesson?
yes The Hand have been around since...hell since I can remember reading Marvel comics. They have tussled with everyone from DD, to Iron Fist, Spider Man, Wolverine, you name the hero, the hand has probably fought him one time or another.
By the end of it there were so many twists and turns that I'm not sure I understand anyone's motivations. Clare is the only person with a consistent plot.
Also the chi-centering is poorly explained. It seems like they just turn off his chi whenever it's convenient for drama, and have it recharged at random.
And Joy is the biggest tease the whole time. It pissed me off.
Also the chi-centering is poorly explained. It seems like they just turn off his chi whenever it's convenient for drama, and have it recharged at random.
And Joy is the biggest tease the whole time. It pissed me off.
I had pretty much that exact same opinion when I was halfway through. It gets worse
DeviantBoi
Member
Five episodes in and I don't get the hate that the show has been getting.
I know how badly Buck messed up the final seasons of Dexter, but I think he's been competent thus far. The writing isn't the best, but I don't think it's much better on the other shows.
I feel it's on par with the rest of the Marvel seasons and much better than the second half of Luke Cage, which I hated.
I know how badly Buck messed up the final seasons of Dexter, but I think he's been competent thus far. The writing isn't the best, but I don't think it's much better on the other shows.
I feel it's on par with the rest of the Marvel seasons and much better than the second half of Luke Cage, which I hated.
DarknessTear
Banned
I'm more surprised anyone liked him.
I actually like him more than the villains in this show, other than Gao.
jasminlovesyoux
Banned
word
I had pretty much that exact same opinion when I was halfway through. It gets worse
uh oh, lol
Mighty Chin
Banned
Just finished. I liked it a lot.
10 episodes would have been fine. Maybe spread that budget over that.
I kinda wanted that crackling Iron fist effect though. The gold fist was fine, maybe down the road.
Now that Danny doesn't have that emotional baggage maybe he'll be a bit more focused.
10 episodes would have been fine. Maybe spread that budget over that.
I kinda wanted that crackling Iron fist effect though. The gold fist was fine, maybe down the road.
Now that Danny doesn't have that emotional baggage maybe he'll be a bit more focused.
Considering I got through season's 1 and 3 of Arrow yeah wasn't as bad as I was expecting.
fallengorn
Bitches love smiley faces
Finished the season. Guess I'll post my thoughts here since no one is using the spoiler thread.
The series was pretty middle of the road. It started pretty badly, evened off and never took off.
I think the cast was fine, but the writing doesn't really help them. The best person on the show is Carrie-Anne Moss. Thank god for Jeri.
Claire was fine, and I'm okay with her being the Coulson of the Netflix series, but they just couldn't write her in without it feeling stupid that she's not speed dialing Matt for most of this. You're dealing with the Hand for Christ's sake.
I brought up the fights before, but they're pretty unmemorable. I think the best one was when IF and Davos were fighting off Hand University.
The biggest thing that irks me is that they made the Iron Fist a supposed "silver bullet" to the Hand. I can understand it from a story economics point of view, but it diminishes what K'Un Lun is.
They oddly don't really exploit using the Hand too much. (Where are the ninjas?) And they muddy it with bring Gao into it. (It's a Japanese organization, but then there's a Chinese sect?) I'm tired of this pan-Asian treatment.
I think the cast was fine, but the writing doesn't really help them. The best person on the show is Carrie-Anne Moss. Thank god for Jeri.
Claire was fine, and I'm okay with her being the Coulson of the Netflix series, but they just couldn't write her in without it feeling stupid that she's not speed dialing Matt for most of this. You're dealing with the Hand for Christ's sake.
I brought up the fights before, but they're pretty unmemorable. I think the best one was when IF and Davos were fighting off Hand University.
The biggest thing that irks me is that they made the Iron Fist a supposed "silver bullet" to the Hand. I can understand it from a story economics point of view, but it diminishes what K'Un Lun is.
They oddly don't really exploit using the Hand too much. (Where are the ninjas?) And they muddy it with bring Gao into it. (It's a Japanese organization, but then there's a Chinese sect?) I'm tired of this pan-Asian treatment.
After coming off of Luke Cage and it's amazing succint soundtrack.
Im dying of boredom in eps 5. Nothing is really sticking with me, the combat choreagraphy is 10 times slower than daredevil and they dont really sell much of the fights as hard hitting or impactful in any way.
The acting is also not great.
Im dying of boredom in eps 5. Nothing is really sticking with me, the combat choreagraphy is 10 times slower than daredevil and they dont really sell much of the fights as hard hitting or impactful in any way.
The acting is also not great.
I mean...maybe finish it first. It's not AWFUL, but you know how you're halfway through and virtually nothing has happened? Just imagine that keeps happening for 7 more episodes.
ep 10
hey at least they got that right from the comics :3
ep 11
You are the worst Iron Fist ever
hey at least they got that right from the comics :3
ep 11
no budget for a CGI dragon huh? just a cave entrance and some scorched chest/clothes after you specifically mentioned a dragon in the previous episode?
Can you even call it that? There is no impact. They should really have gotten a lead with martial arts experience for this role at the least. His moves look a lot like interpretive dance as opposed to martial arts. The actor did not sell a single fight scene all the punches seem slow and held.
veloxStrix
Banned
This show completely shattered my suspension of disbelief. In Episode 7
But this has been the most bland of the "series" so far. Just a worse version of Jessica Jones and Luke Cage, but without even the industry relevance that made them something notable.
Danny and Little Wing or whatever cannonball the fiddle cove. So how does that work out? Because I really doubt Danny was getting randy up on Kunlun mountain. Every episode after that should have had them acting really awkward with each other due to Danny's lack of... "ki".
But this has been the most bland of the "series" so far. Just a worse version of Jessica Jones and Luke Cage, but without even the industry relevance that made them something notable.
Dongs Macabre
aka Daedalos42
Father_Brain
Banned
E13 spoiler:
lol, they actually put the big, climactic Iron Fist FX shot in the fucking trailer
Should've made Colleen the star
Prodigal Son
Member
Just finished episode one. I liked it. Wasn't great but it was fine. Does it get much worse later on? What's the major complaint?
Father_Brain
Banned
reduced to a small whiny dude is...troublingDavos
on the plus side, they cast the hot Riz Ahmed-looking dude from that shitty Outsourced show
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