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Media Create Sales: Week 15, 2017 (Apr 10 - Apr 16)

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ZSaberLink

Media Create Maven
extralite said:
You really think it's a good idea to screw the fanbase by leaving a new series on a cliffhanger? And not reuse those assets that won't fit in anything other than a sequel?

And I'm sure there will be another mainline series title. There was one before we got this sequel actually.
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Well honestly AA6 just came out last year, and I don't think they've ever released games back to back mainline games. As such, I think it makes sense to release a DGS2, especially if the last one left on a cliffhanger. It underperformed, but it still did sell about 200K, which is only 90K less than AA6.

Funnily enough AAI2 and DGS did fairly similarly, except AAI2 sold about 60K more in its best price release.

Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth 2 134.760 219.682 Capcom 2/3/2011
Great Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Naruhodou Ryuunosuke no Bouken 136.191 211.151 Capcom 7/9/2015

Then again AA6 only sold a bit better than AAI2's combined sales though... AA6 had a better launch though.
3DS Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Spirit of Justice 197.063 291.344 Capcom 9/6/2016
NDS Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth 2 [All Versions] 134.760 274.995 Capcom 2/3/2011
 
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noshten

Member
PREDICTION LEAGUE MAY 2017

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from May 1 to May 28):

[NSW] Nintendo Switch Hardware [3rd month] (28 days) - 311.111
[NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe [2nd month] (28 days) - 288.888
[PS4] Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of DANA (4 days) - 23.333
[NSW] Ultra Street Fighter II: The Final Challengers (3 days) - 44.444
 
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Zedark

Member
PREDICTION LEAGUE MAY 2017

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from May 1 to May 28):

[NSW] Nintendo Switch Hardware [3rd month] (28 days) - 270k
[NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe [2nd month] (28 days) - 300k
[PS4] Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of DANA (4 days) - 24k
[NSW] Ultra Street Fighter II: The Final Challengers (3 days) - 55k
 
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frankie_baby

Member
noshten said:
PREDICTION LEAGUE MAY 2017

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from May 1 to May 28):

[NSW] Nintendo Switch Hardware [3rd month] (28 days) - 311.111
[NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe [2nd month] (28 days) - 288.888
[PS4] Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of DANA (4 days) - 23.333
[NSW] Ultra Street Fighter II: The Final Challengers (3 days) - 44.444
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Zedark said:
PREDICTION LEAGUE MAY 2017

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from May 1 to May 28):

[NSW] Nintendo Switch Hardware [3rd month] (28 days) - 250k
[NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe [2nd month] (28 days) - 260k
[PS4] Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of DANA (4 days) - 24k
[NSW] Ultra Street Fighter II: The Final Challengers (3 days) - 55k
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And i thought i was the one being bullish on street fighter with 36k
 
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LordKano

Member
Psycho_Mantis said:
How can you say fading in popularity when RE6 was the best selling RE and continues to sell even to this day. Similarly, how can you say most popular style of horror games when RE6 outsold every single one of those so called popular FP horror games numerous times over.

To add further fuel, longstanding franchises having such large changes in perspective is very rare.
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TPS as a whole is fading in popularity since the last few years. RE6 released five years ago, that's a long time. A new generation was born since then. We've got way fewer TPS compared to last gen, in case you didn't notice.
 
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Nyoro SF

Member
PREDICTION LEAGUE MAY 2017

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from May 1 to May 28):

[NSW] Nintendo Switch Hardware [3rd month] (28 days) - 250000
[NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe [2nd month] (28 days) - 350000
[PS4] Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of DANA (4 days) - 25000
[NSW] Ultra Street Fighter II: The Final Challengers (3 days) - 20000
 
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frankie_baby

Member
Zedark said:
To be fair, I have absolutely no idea whatsoever what's reasonable for USFII, so please don't hate me.
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Haha course i dont hate, with legs i expect it to do reasonably well but there's people guessing like 10k and 12k, its nice to see someone else putting up bigger predictions
 
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Psycho_Mantis

Banned
LordKano said:
TPS as a whole is fading in popularity since the last few years. RE6 released five years ago, that's a long time. A new generation was born since then. We've got way fewer TPS compared to last gen, in case you didn't notice.
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We are talking about RE6, which you tried to paint as not as popular as some first person horror games, when in reality RE6 outsold said games multiple times over.

And I wouldn't even agree with TPS dying with the success of games like UC4, Battlefront, The Division, GTAV, TLoU etc etc.
 
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PshycoNinja

Member
PREDICTION LEAGUE MAY 2017

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from May 1 to May 28):

[NSW] Nintendo Switch Hardware [3rd month] (28 days) - 270.000
[NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe [2nd month] (28 days) - 255.000
[PS4] Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of DANA (4 days) - 27.000
[NSW] Ultra Street Fighter II: The Final Challengers (3 days) - 40.000
 
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saichi

Member
Psycho_Mantis said:
We are talking about RE6, which you tried to paint as not as popular as some first person horror games, when in reality RE6 outsold said games multiple times over.

And I wouldn't even agree with TPS dying with the success of games like UC4, Battlefront, The Division, GTAV, TLoU etc etc.
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GTA5 is a shooter?
 
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horuhe

Member
PREDICTION LEAGUE MAY 2017

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from May 1 to May 28):

[NSW] Nintendo Switch Hardware [3rd month] (28 days) - 213.019
[NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe [2nd month] (28 days) - 197.684
[PS4] Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of DANA (4 days) - 21.622
[NSW] Ultra Street Fighter II: The Final Challengers (3 days) - 28.557
 
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noshten

Member
I don't see why MH wouldn't be both on the Switch and PS4, but even if it is I expect there to not be much differences in terms of the amount of polish done to both versions. I can already see some vocal people bemoaning parity between the versions.


In terms of USF it's going to be surprising yet with the lack of physical releases on the Switch and with people buying multiplayer games like DQH/Bomberman R/PuyoPuyo higher launch and a bit of legs aren't unthinkable for this game.
I mean Bomberman R right now has over 10% attach rate on the Switch - to me that's highly impressive and once they cut the price a bit I will probably end up buying it. It's interesting that bombabins don't seem to be a thing for Switch games
... yet
. Probably due to the limited library and stock, so a lot of these games can expect additional sales when the price goes down a bit and when big games like MK8D and Splatoon 2 move a lot of hardware.
Anyhow I'm sure all these titles will end up profitable for their publishers the question is what is the next step/game that we'd see from them. I can see some ports, some retro throwbacks and revivals and obviously some new projects. The main thing I've said for a long time is that I think multiplayer titles have the most to gain from the Switch so I expect games that utilize the Switch's portability and out of the box multiplayer might be best suited to really thrive on the system.
 
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Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
zeromcd73 said:
Just moved to Osaka the other day (two streets away from Capcom HQ!) and decided to look around the electronic stores.

Switch was completely sold out everywhere with no confirmed date for a restock. Disgaea 5 and Setsuna were sold out at most places with PuyoPuyo being sold out at Bic Camera.
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hiska-kun said:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=231697055

So, according to Famitsu, these are the first shipment range:

Zelda Breat of the Wild - from 241k to 321k
1-2-Switch - from 103k to 137k
Bomberman R - from 50k to 66k
Dragon Quest Heroes 1-2 - from 43k to 64k
PuoPuyo - from 32k to 64k
Disgaea 5 - from 12k to 25k
Setsuna - from 11k to 23k
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Disgaea 5 and I am Setsuna being sold out doesn't contradict how the games' value is still holding up on Amazon.co.jp, as well as Vinnk stating how the used price for both increased recently (I am Setsuna now more expensive as used) in his village. So, at least it doesn't appear they're suffering from one of the classics of launches, i.e. bargain bins due to excessive first week shipments. Still, I wouldn't start thinking they've had important restocks in the past few weeks, if not at all (especially in the case of Square Enix's game).

Also, let's try to diverge a bit from all the Monster Hunter discussions: one of the things I'd like to know is how much the more general Japanese audience is aware of the upcoming Switch version of Minecraft. If possible, I'd be quite interested in Vinnk's insight, considering he works with children by being a teacher (IIRC) :p
 
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Mory Dunz

Member
oh hey what's going-
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noshten

Member
Mpl90 said:
Also, let's try to diverge a bit from all the Monster Hunter discussions: one of the things I'd like to know is how much the more general Japanese audience is aware of the upcoming Switch version of Minecraft. If possible, I'd be quite interested in Vinnk's insight, considering he works with children by being a teacher (IIRC) :p
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Well outside of Senran Kagura it's the most popular third party video out of the direct:

Senran Kagura - 789K
Splatoon Salmon Run - 763K
Direct - 411K
Arms - 246K
Splatoon Amiibo - 229K
Kirby(5 minute video) - 175K
Minecraft - 121K
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ZSaberLink

Media Create Maven
noshten said:
I mean Bomberman R right now has over 10% attach rate on the Switch right now - to me that's highly impressive and once they cut the price a bit I will probably end up buying it. It's interesting that bombabins don't seem to be a thing for Switch games
... yet
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Bomberman is too busy blowing up the bomba bins for any other Switch games to enter... yet :).

I guess is Romance of the 3 Kingdoms on Switch in a bargain bin? Or did they just ship very very few copies in the first place?
 
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Mr. Pointy

Member
PREDICTION LEAGUE MAY 2017

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from May 1 to May 28):

[NSW] Nintendo Switch Hardware [3rd month] (28 days) - 242,000
[NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe [2nd month] (28 days) - 235,000
[PS4] Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of DANA (4 days) - 23,000
[NSW] Ultra Street Fighter II: The Final Challengers (3 days) - 30,000
 
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frankie_baby

Member
ZSaberLink said:
Bomberman is too busy blowing up the bomba bins for any other Switch games to enter... yet :).

I guess is Romance of the 3 Kingdoms on Switch in a bargain bin? Or did they just ship very very few copies in the first place?
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With a big hardware boost likely next week if i was a shop owner I'd hold off on bomba binning any switch games til after then
 
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Vinnk

Member
Mpl90 said:
Also, let's try to diverge a bit from all the Monster Hunter discussions: one of the things I'd like to know is how much the more general Japanese audience is aware of the upcoming Switch version of Minecraft. If possible, I'd be quite interested in Vinnk's insight, considering he works with children by being a teacher (IIRC) :p
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This is a good chance to talk about something that people don't bring up much. Awareness.

I had a lesson with the topic "I like" a bit ago and I had a photo of myself playing Splatoon 2 on the Switch. This was mind-blowing to the students in a few respects:

1. Their teacher was cool enough to play Splatoon
2. How on earth was I playing it when it is not out until July?

So kids are aware of Splatoon (even kids who don't play games). Those "in the know" were surprised I was playing it because they know that the release date is in July. I was surprised by how many of them knew the exact date. I said I took the photo during the Global Test Fire (スプラトゥーン2先行試射会) but in every class not a single one of them knew anything about that.

I saw many people on sales-gaf talking about how the demo for Splatoon 2 brought sales up during that week and like everything I say this will be anecdotal, but I don't think that is the case. I am sure a few games did buy a Switch just for the testfire but I think they were the exception. I think it sold more that week because more were available. I think it had more to do with it being the last week of the financial year (and Nintendo wanting to boost the numbers) than for the demo. I could be wrong, but thats what it feels like to me.

As for Minecraft. Kids know it is coming. Kids are aware of when it is coming. But for most of them it won't matter until the physical cart version comes out. It was the same for the WiiU version. Kids knew it was out but they didn't have credit cards so it became real for them when the disc version was released. I am sure a few kids will get the digital version (especially if they have download cards) but I think the majority of kid sales will be physical.

Makes me wonder how Nintendo will sell the paid online. I am guessing as 1 year gift cards?

Sorry. Long response to a simple question.

ZSaberLink said:
I guess is Romance of the 3 Kingdoms on Switch in a bargain bin? Or did they just ship very very few copies in the first place?
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Online at least Romance of the 3 Kingdoms 13 (三國志13 with パワーアップキット) is still selling near it's full retail price. There has been no collapse. And at the stores in my town it is still a full priced title (if they have it at all). I am guessing it was just a crazy small shipment. Bomba bins happen when companies ship tons of a game which goes on to not do well. Looks like all of these low selling Switch games also shipped low numbers to begin with.
 
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Hero of Legend

Member
Vinnk said:
Online at least Romance of the 3 Kingdoms 13 (三國志13 with パワーアップキット) is still selling near it's full retail price. There has been no collapse. And at the stores in my town it is still a full priced title (if they have it at all). I am guessing it was just a crazy small shipment. Bomba bins happen when companies ship tons of a game which goes on to not do well. Looks like all of these low selling Switch games also shipped low numbers to begin with.
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How's Disgaea 5 Complete in terms of awareness and general opinion? Do you think it'd have done better with more stock? Any insight on PS4 version-owners' opinion of the port?
 
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Vinnk

Member
Hero of Legend said:
How's Disgaea 5 Complete in terms of awareness and general opinion? Do you think it'd have done better with more stock? Any insight on PS4 version-owners' opinion of the port?
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I'm afraid I have no data on that at all. I have never been in a conversation where the Switch version was even mentioned unless I initiated it (I guess that's telling). But I'm not sure that's entirely fair because in the first few weeks it was head-to-head with Zelda and by month 2 it was mostly sold out. I would like to think it would have done better releasing a bit later (the US version I think is playing the timing correctly), but the truth is that with the almost non-existant advertising (no kiosks, posters, TV ads, etc) they gave this version and the anemic number of copies they shipped it, I can't say if it would do any better.
 
TONX

TONX

Distinguished Air Superiority
Not gonna know whether to laugh or cry when we see that USF2 sells more than SFV.
 
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casiopao

Member
PREDICTION LEAGUE MAY 2017

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from May 1 to May 28):

[NSW] Nintendo Switch Hardware [3rd month] (28 days) - 250,000
[NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe [2nd month] (28 days) - 230,000
[PS4] Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of DANA (4 days) - 21,000
[NSW] Ultra Street Fighter II: The Final Challengers (3 days) - 24,000
 
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Fiendcode

Member
PREDICTION LEAGUE MAY 2017

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from May 1 to May 28):

[NSW] Nintendo Switch Hardware [3rd month] (28 days) - 255,555
[NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe [2nd month] (28 days) - 288,888
[PS4] Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of DANA (4 days) - 18,888
[NSW] Ultra Street Fighter II: The Final Challengers (3 days) - 22,222
 
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Maxinas

Member
PREDICTION LEAGUE MAY 2017

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from May 1 to May 28):

[NSW] Nintendo Switch Hardware [3rd month] (28 days) - 285.000
[NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe [2nd month] (28 days) - 256.000
[PS4] Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of DANA (4 days) - 25.000
[NSW] Ultra Street Fighter II: The Final Challengers (3 days) - 32.000
 
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jjonez18

Member
PREDICTION LEAGUE MAY 2017

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from May 1 to May 28):

[NSW] Nintendo Switch Hardware [3rd month] (28 days) - 235,000
[NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe [2nd month] (28 days) - 200,000
[PS4] Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of DANA (4 days) - 25,000
[NSW] Ultra Street Fighter II: The Final Challengers (3 days) - 25,000
 
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cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
If MH jumps ship, this would be the first console gen without a mayor exclusive 3rd Party title for a Nintendo console.

On one hand Switch is the only portable system with a future right now, so MH will be on Switch anyway and probably perform very well on it even if there are PS4/PC versions. So there is less incentive for Nintendo to keep MH from other systems.

On the other hand Nintendo has the money and means to lock MH to Switch if they wanted to. They invested quite a bit into the series the last couple years and especially Iwata made it clear how important the IP is for Nintendo.

Paying for Online is a new thing on Nintendo consoles and having MH as the big 3rd Party title could convince some users to actually pay for the service if the typical Nintendo multi-player games aren't enough to convince them.

So yeah of there is one mayor 3rdParty series that could still be exclusive, MH is still the best bet. Anyways.. I wouldn't be too shocked to see it being announced at E3 for a worldwide release this Holiday season.
 
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BriBri

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I don't know how to embed Tweets here but from Takashi Mochizuki‏ @mochi_wsj

Macquarie ups its Switch sales view from 11m to 14.5m in FY3/18, software attach rate to 2.8x from 1.8x; expects DQ11 Mar/Apr, MH5 Feb/Mar.
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Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
It's usual analyst expectations, so not something that "leaks" future stuff :p
 
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Zedark

Member
BriBri said:
I don't know how to embed Tweets here but from Takashi Mochizuki‏ @mochi_wsj
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That also means that their software sales prediction for the next fiscal year for Switch is much higher than what WSJ predict (20-25 million vs. 2.8 * 14.5 = 40.6 million). Really interesting to see what Nintendo themselves say on Thursday.
 
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