So if you are running a company well you'd expect another shipment for the majority of these titles before/at the MK8D launch. I can totally see people picking up a few copies of Bomberman R, DQH and PuoPuyo with MK8D. While Disgaea and Setsuna being hard to find means that their initial small stock is also close to exhaustion. If we see a bunch of titles move up the rankings next week - we'd know that to a degree smaller titles are coordinating themselves with major Nintendo software launches.
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So if you are running a company well you'd expect another shipment for the majority of these titles before/at the MK8D launch. I can totally see people picking up a few copies of Bomberman R, DQH and PuoPuyo with MK8D. While Disgaea and Setsuna being hard to find means that their initial small stock is also close to exhaustion. If we see a bunch of titles move up the rankings next week - we'd know that to a degree smaller titles are coordinating themselves with major Nintendo software launches.
Cube Creator DX director hopes for 50,000 sales, 100,000 would be a dream and is considering a Switch version http://www.kodomo-times.com/article/20170424_854/
mh on ps4 has to be one of the illogical and desperate moves sony fans have placed their hopes upon
especially when it means nothing for ps4s fortunes, i mean its not like they care about mhs well being
multiplaform with switch makes some sense but would it really be worth it at that point when switch exclusivity achieves the same purpose for less cost?
even 3ds/switch makes more sense if userbase is the main argument for ps4 but again switch exclusivity makes more sense as we've seen how well mh can seĺl even when a handheld has low userbase since they synergise very well, helping both sell in tandem
vita was a much better fit for mh and that never happend, i dont think replacing portability for hd graphics is the key to making mh a big hit in the west and making it a big hit would be the only worthwhile goal as any other platform can sell 1m or so copies in the west
this whole mh talk basically boils down to console wars nonsense all in the name of vita
let it rip
especially when it means nothing for ps4s fortunes, i mean its not like they care about mhs well being
multiplaform with switch makes some sense but would it really be worth it at that point when switch exclusivity achieves the same purpose for less cost?
even 3ds/switch makes more sense if userbase is the main argument for ps4 but again switch exclusivity makes more sense as we've seen how well mh can seĺl even when a handheld has low userbase since they synergise very well, helping both sell in tandem
vita was a much better fit for mh and that never happend, i dont think replacing portability for hd graphics is the key to making mh a big hit in the west and making it a big hit would be the only worthwhile goal as any other platform can sell 1m or so copies in the west
this whole mh talk basically boils down to console wars nonsense all in the name of vita
let it rip
How many screens are there on a Switch?
I think if he ported the game to Switch early here, it would do 50k easily there as Minecraft is still not on the platform.
frankie_baby
Member
Minecraft releases in 2 weeks, he's missed that particular boat
LordOcidax
Member
Agree
considered it will be a digital release, there is hope lol
If I was poor, I'd have begged the game for my nokia 1280 instead
frankie_baby
Member
Physical wont be far behind, i suspect august at the latest
Bounce is the shit m8. I honestly enjoy those old ass nokia phone games.
It really should've been day one (along with Cube Life: Island Survival, Battleminer and every other clone).
....................... good luck, Cube Creator DX dev lol
frankie_baby
Member
I'm guessing none of them expected minecraft to hit so soon, before direct i didnt think it would appear til nearer christmas, there probably will still be a market for the clones but i doubt they'll rake in the big bucks any more
1st Course
Member
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1305643
In the above interview Capcom talk about:
>Capcom talk about PS4 having 100m+ install base by 2020
>The need to grow MH overseas
>MH being handheld hinder its growth potential.
But yeah all this talk about MH5 being on PS4 is pure fanboy fodder!
please, 10 pages of that MH5 argument is already enough
frankie_baby
Member
Oh boy
Tell that to goldage.
Could have capitalized the lack of Minecraft during launch.
I know, but it will just stop if you guys ignore it
Capcom hasn't made a good decision in years. They torpedoed one of their most renowned franchises with a trashfire release, that takes a bit more than mere incompetence.
If they are presumably finally moving on from PSP/3DS era development I see no compelling reason not to go Switch/PS4.
You don't really know until you try.
I hope you realize that generally whenever someone says "MH PS4", they don't mean "MH exclusively for PS4".
They've actually switched up their strategy a bit recently now that they're hiring 1000+ new staff.
There was also a corporate reorganization around the idea of taking more chances again.
I'm not saying that means Monster Hunter is 100% on PS4, but expect to see more risks going forward in general.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
I did not know Switch had a overseas' userbase of 50 million+
Square Enix actually noted that they were bringing more mobile games to the West, and separately noted that Star Ocean: Amnesis and Dissidia: Final Fantasy: Opera Omnia are performing well on mobile.
Fate/Grand Order was also announced for the West.
capcom might care about mhs future doesnt mean everyone arguing for it does
i covered that literally in the very next sentence
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1st Course
Member
Because it's the next logical step to grow the IP?
Now that they're switching (lol) development to the Switch they will need to spend extra $$$ on updating the assets anyway.
MisterR
Member
No, someone begging and pleading a game stay exclusive is definitely console wars bullshit though. Multi-platform is almost always best for 3rd party games.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
That's his point though, Capcom doesn't bother trying full stop. I still think a port of some sort is on the way though since it'll be a cheap and easy thing to do. If people are talking about fully investing to chase the western market I highly doubt it. Not even Resident Evil their flagship western title gets massive budget these days why would MH. Which is why a PS4 exclusive makes the least sense of all.
How did Monster Hunter sell on ps2 tho that was a 150m install base. If those underperformed then why even bother with ps4?
You're going to see them trying. Whether they succeed or not remains to be seen, but they'll at least try.
depends which exclusivity you're arguing for
in this case its the sony fans that are begging for it since its cuŕrently nintendos
added_time
Member
I seems obvious to me. If Capcom wants to try to hit the biggest possible market, then a Switch/PS4 release is the best choice. However, they may want to keep development costs down and only releasing on Switch would keep graphic expectations lower and development costs lower. Although they could keep the game at Switch-level graphics even on PS4 and many people would still be ok with that.
I personally think they should release on both consoles because even if MH only sells to a small fraction of PS4 owners, it could still make a bigger splash overseas. If it doesn't work then they could just go back to handheld only again.
It's weird that some people have so much emotionally invested in this though. It's just a game.
I personally think they should release on both consoles because even if MH only sells to a small fraction of PS4 owners, it could still make a bigger splash overseas. If it doesn't work then they could just go back to handheld only again.
It's weird that some people have so much emotionally invested in this though. It's just a game.
The system is a handheld device and digital sales are interesting as you don't need to take a lot of carts with you. So I guess there are a lot of games sold via the e-shop. It would be interesting to know how many but it doesn't look like Nintendo will tell us, we'll know the total Zelda sales by end of their fiscal year in April though -and I wouldn't be too surprised if it had an immense attach rate.
How well did the Playstation 4 userbase help with Street Fighter V?
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Saint Titanfall
Why? Have you seen Resident Evil 7? The company is risk averse as hell, big budget MH isn't happening. Not only doesn't not make little sense in terms of risk either way it'll absolutely destroy the bottom line of a franchise they're literally live off of. Do you honestly think, it's by chance that they haven't tried this before now? That last mainline MH that was released on consoles was developed from the ground up for the wii not the PS3.
Capcom will give you a Switch port and that's pretty much it. Either that or MH released on the PS4 will be cheap as hell.
KillerMan91
Member
I really don't see that many people arguing for PS4 exclusivity(?). It's mostly people arguing for PS4/Switch multiplat.
lyrick
Member
MH only sold to a extremely small fraction of the PS2 audience and it definitely only sold to a small fraction of the Wii audience.
Let Capcom try that shit again though, because well no good reason really.
It's one of their biggest franchises today and Capcom being an international business want it to succeed globally and not just domestically.
I think there is a reason why Capcom brings MH exclusively to Nintendo systems, even though the series took off on a Sony Handheld years ago. Capcom was a company Nintendo had good ties to ever since, they even got the Resident Evil Remake, Resident Evil 0 and Resident Evil 4 exclusively on the GameCube. -Even though that changed over time and RE4 was ported to the PS2 and a lot of systems later on, it was one of the best exclusives on the GameCube for a long time.
Also Capcom knows quite well, that everyone that wants to play Monster Hunter will buy the dedicated system for it, at least in Japan where the series has the most sales. I wouldn't expect a PS4 version, Capcom is likely already preparing a Switch Port/Remaster of the 3DS game though.
Regardless of the angle, its the last "big" exclusive that remains shrouded in mystery, and its been a tantalizing/controversial one for the better part of the last decade.
This being a sales thread, the fact that the title has become a linchpin of discourse is no surprise.
We're also entering a tumultuous point in the market as the Switch does appear to have reason to be rather disruptive against past norms, while the PS4 has once more begun to slip into the doldrums as the major titles have come and gone and fortunes remained unchanged in the market (this also naturally feeds into discussions of the "next big title" for the PS4 as it is deeply dependent on big swings as Sony/3rd parties have largely failed to ever find/make an evergreen title). These factors will continue to fuel discussion over "big" titles as the landscape of the market is going to probably be seeing a lot of change in the coming years now that a new hardware may actually prove to be successful for once since the 3DS.
Street Fighter V was a garbage fire release for months (still is, somewhat) and rejected on both PS4 and PC , so that is not the greatest comparison...
frankie_baby
Member
To be fair it did sell incredibly well in japan on the Wii, its only in comparison to the handheld games that it doesn't look impressive