TheWorthyEdge
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Dude. He's one of the best characters.
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Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 |OT| Anyone can save the galaxy once - SPOILERS!
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Dude. He's one of the best characters.
Glass Rebel
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Loved that scene. My theatre was already chuckling at the ridiculously edgy exposition monologue by Nebula. Kraglin's "Oookay" perfectly mirrored what everybody was thinking.
I said earlier that that one actually got gasps from my theater, which I honestly can't say I've heard before. "fuck him up, Starlord" is a pretty good one, too.
I think he's referring to the scene where Nebula talks about her depressing ass relationship with Thanos (and Gamora by extension) where she loses pieces of herself whenever she loses to Gamora, only for Kraglin to be like "Whoa there, didn't ask for all that..."
If so, that's understandable. I totally saw it coming that they'd make light of it. And that can suck sometimes, because sometimes you just want to let those dark moments land and fully impact the audience, instead of being undercut immediately afterwards.
I think it's this thing called ears.
It can help you know when something gets a small laugh or when something gets a big laugh. They come in handy.
Kraglin's reaction was similar to how I reacted to her speech, so it worked for me.
"Uh, wow...okay."
Glass Rebel
Member
yes but did you count them?
Lmao I did the same, because well, of course you would react like that, but it would been more interesting if they subverted it and just let it sit there.
It got gasps at mine as well.
I don't think that particular moment necessarily deserved to be free from levity. While it gave us Nebula's backstory (which was already hinted at in the original), it was nonetheless couched primarily in the emotional driving force that was her hatred and intent on killing her sister, feelings that the movie in general had been making light of until that point anyway. That, and the scene was had with Kraglin who has absolutely no prior context with Nebula anyway.
Instead, the moment that needed no comedic interruption was when she confronted Gamora in the cave and finally admitted her feelings from a place of reflexive desperation to be loved. That was the moment that served to properly break the tension and make her into a truly sympathetic character for me. Literally reached my arms out in the theater with a friend. xD
Inferno313
Banned
I loved this. One of my favorite Marvel films, and stands toe-to-toe with the original. Like nearly every middle-act of a trilogy since the 80s, it takes clear inspirations from Empire Strikes Back, yet It feels like the rare example of one that understands that the reason that movie is so satisfying as a sequel is not due to a darker tone, but due to digging into it's characters much further. Nearly everyone has an arc here, and it's lovely. The visuals are incredible too, blowing the first film away. Plus, I thought Ego was one of the very best Marvel villains, blowing away Ronan by far.
Not in a big ass 900 seat theater when a loud movie is playing.
If you can then maybe you are a real super hero.
I didn't mind either way, because I was completely ready to laugh at Kraglin's reaction, I just thought it'd be interesting if that did happen. That's why I said "suck sometimes", because I wasn't referring to this scene in particular, but sometimes you just have these moments in movies where stuff like that gets immediately undercut by humor, which can be disappointing depending on said scene.
But like you said, it's all right anyhow due to it getting uttered once more with Gamora when they're alone.
Did you not see Rise of the Planet of the Apes in theaters? Caesar's "No!" had us shook.
xDD Yeah, you could tell the set-up was pretty obvious with the way the camera just didn't leave her face as she was monologuing. Hell, if Kraglin hadn't broken the tension, someone in my audience would've.
You're telling me that if 900 people laugh, you won't hear them?
ambar_hitman
Member
Loved the movie. Probably best Marvel movie so far.
Inferno313
Banned
Also, the opening sequence's long shot was an incredible way to kick things off. I was dying.
WadiumArcadium
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Baby Groot's temper tantrums never got old.
I actually enjoyed this more than the first movie. The first one couldn't figure out whether it was a comedy or a melodrama, jarringly switching from one to the other every scene. The plot relied on stupidity, they outwitted the bad guy by confusing him with stupid behavior - it was everything bad about action movies, held aloft only by the larger than life personalities of the main cast.
This movie is instead more focused - more personal, with waves of comedy and then a rest, some action scenes, and then comedy interspersed with drama. Things flow more naturally without the origin story weighing it down, allowing characters to just exist within the already established world.
Anyway, as someone who was disappointed with the first, I thoroughly enjoyed this one and I wasn't expecting to.
This movie is instead more focused - more personal, with waves of comedy and then a rest, some action scenes, and then comedy interspersed with drama. Things flow more naturally without the origin story weighing it down, allowing characters to just exist within the already established world.
Anyway, as someone who was disappointed with the first, I thoroughly enjoyed this one and I wasn't expecting to.
I need to re-watch that and just focus on the background cus I pretty much missed most of what was happening there since I just wanted to watch Baby Groot dance.
Fun fact: James said today on Twitter that he did all the mo-cap for Baby Groot's dance sequence.
PadWarrior
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That Adam warlock name drop!!! Loved this movie. Liked Manthis too.
Reptars Revenge
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I am talking about when people say I was the only one laughing at a joke. Hearing that as well as the movie. Impossible. Also I never big laugh but still think something is hilarious. People use that as definitive proof if a joke sucked or not sometimes. It's crazy.
kopitarrulez_11
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I love how they did a dancing sequence for the opening credits again. Also how many were tapping there feet to the music my buddies and me were the whole time just perfect songs man.
MugiwaraCole
Member
This literally didn't happen lmao. She disarmed them and held daggers to their throats. If you don't like that she spared them and then was subsequently attacked by Drax, that's fine, but she wasn't some weak, scared woman in the first movie.
She walked into a prison full of people wanting to murder her and said "whatever nightmares lie before me are dreams compared to what's behind me". She clearly wasn't intimidated by anybody.
I think giving her some sister moments was a good idea. Let her stand more on her own and do her own thing.
But she's definitely placed as the sort of mom for the group, which I think is fine.
I just had my second viewing and the contrast for that joke couldn't be bigger. First time I went to a packed IMAX theatre and my friends and others lost it at the Zune joke, talked about it afterwards as well. Tonight I went with my dad to a theatre with only 30 or so people where no one laughed, were all pretty young kids. My dad didn't understand it so I had to tell him story of the Zune later. Still my favorite joke of the movie.
TheJollyCorner
Member
Loved The Watcher cameo. 
The first movie was my favorite Marvel Studios movie by a significant margin after they started churning out movies every year but the second fell flat for me. It had to juggle a lot more characters from the start so it didn't feel as cohesive. I don't have any significant problems with the characters nor the scenes (aside from tazerface being far too played out), so it's probably more of an editing problem for me. Or maybe daddy problems isn't as a compelling hook for me, and have it suddenly turn into a problem that would save the galaxy was meh.
I wish they didn't focus on earth during the initial distress scenes because I don't think even Peter Quill would care that much about Earth. That part seemed to be entirely the movie talking to the audience so I didn't like it at all. Also the events leading to Yondu's death was a bit too forced. It wasn't even directly because of Ego but rather because Rocket happened to only to have one extra booster and spacesuit, so it didn't feel earned. Mantis was cool and probably necessary for Drax to have some plot, but I don't think you would have lost much if she was cut off from the movie and focused more on what was already a lot of things happening.
I wish they didn't focus on earth during the initial distress scenes because I don't think even Peter Quill would care that much about Earth. That part seemed to be entirely the movie talking to the audience so I didn't like it at all. Also the events leading to Yondu's death was a bit too forced. It wasn't even directly because of Ego but rather because Rocket happened to only to have one extra booster and spacesuit, so it didn't feel earned. Mantis was cool and probably necessary for Drax to have some plot, but I don't think you would have lost much if she was cut off from the movie and focused more on what was already a lot of things happening.
Pagusas
Elden Member
Just got back from it. Thought it was ok but nothing special at all, certainly not in the same league as the first one.
They tried too often to force emotion and failed. Relied to heavily on the same Action + classic tunes fun over and over again, it got old fast and made everything feel like it had no stakes. Their is absolutely no chemistry between the leads, making the love story flat and uninteresting. The "god trying to destroy the galaxy" just seem cheap for a story.
The good stuff was the visuals, seeing Amy from Doctor Who, the music (may have been overused but it's still good) and the baby groot opening was fun, and a lot of the humor landed well.
They tried too often to force emotion and failed. Relied to heavily on the same Action + classic tunes fun over and over again, it got old fast and made everything feel like it had no stakes. Their is absolutely no chemistry between the leads, making the love story flat and uninteresting. The "god trying to destroy the galaxy" just seem cheap for a story.
The good stuff was the visuals, seeing Amy from Doctor Who, the music (may have been overused but it's still good) and the baby groot opening was fun, and a lot of the humor landed well.
xxsavagedragonxx
Neo Member
taserface!
Pagusas
Elden Member
Oh yeah that too, again no stakes what so ever in the film.
PadWarrior
Member
So is Adam warlock gonna be in the third film?
Supa Necta
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Gordon Shumway
Banned
Seems like it..he's bringing the steaks..
Fast Forward
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Probably should have done this before seeing Vol 2, but I just re-watched Vol. 1, and while I was never in love with it like many, I have gained a new appreciation for it. Really good movie. Has a tighter script, and better direction than Vol. 2. In particular, I like the third act a lot more in Vol 1 than Vol 2.
I will say for Vol 2 it has funnier moments, and more interesting villain.
I'll probably end up seeing Vol 2 again this weekend.
I will say for Vol 2 it has funnier moments, and more interesting villain.
I'll probably end up seeing Vol 2 again this weekend.
Okay.
Just_myles
Member
Damn Slay, I don't know how you do it. Spot-mother-fuckin-on.
Also, a little sad Stan isn't the One Above All.
MugiwaraCole
Member
There were no stakes whatsoever because you don't think a blob that's swallowing all life to turn the planet into an extension of Ego is scary looking enough?
Do you even hear yourself?
Gordon Shumway
Banned
I mean, it was in the past, right? Doubt they'll be talking about it in a future movie specifically..