Lol, that thread sounds hilarious now.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=239524125&postcount=2
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Geoff Keighley: Scorpio rumored to cost $499 (he's right, flawless victory)
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Lol, that thread sounds hilarious now.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=239524125&postcount=2
MisterR
Member
Hope and desperation from a community that is desperate for a win.
Shadowhelper
Banned
Well at least its something different. If it was Pro priced it would've been Pro powered too. What's the point in another console with a similar power to the Pro? They have pretty much the same games, save for a few handful of exclusives that can easily be ignored in favor of all the multiplats and other exclusives.
If they aren't different in power, they are pretty much the same thing. I think this should be cool for anyone with a giant 4k tv and willing to shell out the cash. It might not be for everyone, but people with giant 4k tvs, and the number is slowly growing, you need something like this.
If they aren't different in power, they are pretty much the same thing. I think this should be cool for anyone with a giant 4k tv and willing to shell out the cash. It might not be for everyone, but people with giant 4k tvs, and the number is slowly growing, you need something like this.
Amazing wall of shame. Good job doing this.
I was out of the loop with the pictures of the robot. I just googled the teaser videos and wow, haha.
I'm actually surprised. It was always going to be 499 with perhaps maybe 449. People really thought 399 or 349?
Someone made a joke petition that Keighley needed to be sued for leaking the price after someone in this thread suggested MS should take legal action against him.
I felt they didn't show price on screen because they knew it wouldn't be a positive reaction. But what do you expect? Thing is liquid vaper cooled with 12 gigs of gddr5 and runs at 6tflops.
I know, that may seem pricy... but I can't build a 4k capable gaming pc for $499. Let alone one that's liquid cooled. They even claimed to have invented a new power delivery system. Be interesting to see if this system makes it way to pcs.
I know, that may seem pricy... but I can't build a 4k capable gaming pc for $499. Let alone one that's liquid cooled. They even claimed to have invented a new power delivery system. Be interesting to see if this system makes it way to pcs.
I thought the financial post confirmed it's only $599 Canadian, meaning we get a relative discount.
edit: http://business.financialpost.com/f...17-press-conference-livestream-and-commentary
The Artisan
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Next year MS will put the onus on Sony. Phil should say that he truly believes that all games should be multi-plat and should look the best where player's decide. Phil will say he approached Sony about bring it's First Party games to MS and vice versa. "I would loves games like Horizon and Uncharted on my Xbox One X." Sony will of course refuse and Phil will be able to say he tried but Sony is holding industry back. Quote me.
I don't know what I'm talking about...
Not everything resolves around console wars you know. Some people just want a very powerful console at a great price to play their games on.
ViolentP
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I usually loathe self-quoting but I gotta respect this.
franklyshankly
Member
Phil's new strategy... is to port beg other platforms' first party games?
He really is playing 4D chess isn't he.
It would have been crazy to not mention the price at all.
I never said that, fake news.
lukeskymac
Member
In my defense, I was assuming Microsoft had some kind of plan when they started hyping Scorpio pre-E3.
4D in 4K...
Primethius
Banned
Yea, I'm on the shame wall. I'll own up to it and eat crow.
Didn't think MS would go $499 at all. They had a completely tepid Xbox One X showing and then you add the price on top... yeesh.
They're not even trying to compete any more it feels like.
Didn't think MS would go $499 at all. They had a completely tepid Xbox One X showing and then you add the price on top... yeesh.
They're not even trying to compete any more it feels like.
DyslexicAlucard
Member
You really don't, lol. Plus, if MS was so into "openness" and games being available everywhere, they'd have their titles on Steam already.
My guess is that they know the second they put up a giant "$499" on the screen, images come out of Phil with that as the backdrop, and it becomes a meme. Happened with Kaz, and same with Mattrick.
Interfectum
Member
Yeah I thought for sure $399. Toss me on the wall of shame I guess.
Kilau
Member
Yeah I was wrong, since Geoff left himself some wiggle room in that tweet I really thought it was set up for MS to drop a bomb.
Oh well.
Night Angel
Member
I was team $399 because I didn't expect MS to not attempt to expand their current market share this gen. This move is basically a white flag.
It's obvious that this console is for people that already have a current gen console and many of them will more than likely get the system via trading in their current one (especially if Xbox due to game compatibly) so in that sense I feel the majority of Xbox One X owners will not pay $499 for the system.
I do think that the Xbox One X will not do well after December if it stays $499. Really needs to get to $399. A $399 announcement would have been huge this E3.
I do think that the Xbox One X will not do well after December if it stays $499. Really needs to get to $399. A $399 announcement would have been huge this E3.
RedlineRonin
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Did Geoff talk to Phil yet? Is he scheduled to at some point this week?
That interaction should be good. If not, maybe the GB guys will. Jeff is usually good about not really pulling punches (e.g. the "when are games going to stop shipping broken?" question)
That interaction should be good. If not, maybe the GB guys will. Jeff is usually good about not really pulling punches (e.g. the "when are games going to stop shipping broken?" question)
Bolivar687
Banned
I thought it was $399 because I never would have expected Microsoft's Xbox division to commit ritualistic suicide on stage.
David Ricardo
Member
Too high expectations could make an OK announcement feel like a bad one. 499 is perfectly reasonable for what Scorpio packs, maybe MS is even losing money on it. But if you are expecting 399, you won't be happy with 499.
RedlineRonin
Member
Eh, I get that point of view, but I don't think they had much choice.
Shareholders have been asking MS to spin off Xbox division for years, and even though Nadella said he won't, I never thought it was realistic that they'd price to lose money. That would have been a very tough sell.
Why would something released a year later, with the same amount of power, cost the same amount? The Iphone 7s will surely be faster than the iphone 7 and will launch at the same price.
Ploid 3.0
Member
Better specs, a year later, and $100 more expensive. Up hill battle man.
I can't believe Crackdown 3 looked bland, that was supposed to be the one game that would be their shining exclusive jewel. I can probably run that thing on my old EVGA GTX 760 SC, (just sold rx 480 for $390 thanks to miners and the 480 shortage. Bring on Vega!!)
I haven't even considered that they might be making a profit from it. That would explain things.
Jack The Nipper
Banned
They must have a money making proposition in place with the new ceo or something
Yea, it would be really interesting to see the BoM for the Xbox X. I would have assumed they would price it so The console + a year of XBL makes it so they breakeven like PS4 did with launch. The machine itself must be more expensive to produce than expected because i can't imagine they have a large margin on it.
Theonik
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It is based on the same technology. There have been very marginal improvements since the Pro launched and anything better /will/ cost more.
If MS could/were to price it closer to Sony's proposition, Sony would have more price flexibility to undercut them. It's a losing proposition either way.
$499 is for the 1TB SKU. Expect a 2TB SKU for more.
Five hundred and ninety nine US Dollars.
For the specs, I don't think the price is bad. But they've put themselves in a difficult position. Seems to me this appeals only to:
A: People who don't have a gaming PC and haven't owned a XB1.
B: People who own a XB1 and are willing to pay $500 for better visuals.
I kinda fall into group A, and I think this could be a purchase in my future, but not at $500.
A: People who don't have a gaming PC and haven't owned a XB1.
B: People who own a XB1 and are willing to pay $500 for better visuals.
I kinda fall into group A, and I think this could be a purchase in my future, but not at $500.
A Grizzly Bear
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Crazy that they're eating some of the cost to make it slightly more appealing in Canada. Also, if you need a source. Scroll down to the bottom.
Just for the record, there's a difference between being wrong and being crazy.
Thinking US$500 was too much and that US$400 would have been the final price? Wrong but reasonable.
Thinking this was an orchestrated ploy, a conspiracy for a mic drop moment? That's crazy. People believe these fantastical narratives instead of accepting that things tend to be closer to what they actually look like than what an anime plot would suggest.
The shame part of that wall of shame wasn't being wrong about the price - no shame in missing a number. It's in anybody over the age of 14 (I'll excuse our Neoyounglings for doing these things) who still thinks in these terms. Like, even if Geoff had been wrong and the final price was actually higher, or lower, suggesting he was in on it as some sort of psyops marketing? I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's such a weirdly specific and odd thing to believe is "obvious" the way so many here did.
Stay weird, GAF.
Thinking US$500 was too much and that US$400 would have been the final price? Wrong but reasonable.
Thinking this was an orchestrated ploy, a conspiracy for a mic drop moment? That's crazy. People believe these fantastical narratives instead of accepting that things tend to be closer to what they actually look like than what an anime plot would suggest.
The shame part of that wall of shame wasn't being wrong about the price - no shame in missing a number. It's in anybody over the age of 14 (I'll excuse our Neoyounglings for doing these things) who still thinks in these terms. Like, even if Geoff had been wrong and the final price was actually higher, or lower, suggesting he was in on it as some sort of psyops marketing? I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's such a weirdly specific and odd thing to believe is "obvious" the way so many here did.
Stay weird, GAF.
vpance
Member
Never makes sense to lose money selling a premium model. If anything you do the opposite and build in a bigger profit margin.
The Cartographer
Member
I wonder how much they will make selling those XboneX.
I mean, they will sell them for a profit at that price, right?
I mean, they will sell them for a profit at that price, right?
QuantumZebra
Member
I love you for gif quoting this movie
On topic - guess I'm sticking with my XB1S. Glad I got it during the black friday deals for a great price.
I'm guessing you missed E3 2013.