Do you gonna let ban yourself when capcom gonna announce a localization for this game in the future? I want to bookmark it
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GameSpot: Capcom Not Bringing Switch Ver. of Monster Hunter XX to US (at this time)
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Do you gonna let ban yourself when capcom gonna announce a localization for this game in the future? I want to bookmark it
MHW would be lucky to do 3m on consoles. My guess is it sells comparably to Tri.Yeah Capcom fucked up the schedule big time.
Edit: MHW isn't going to sell 6mio. Their biggest franchise in the west (Resident Evil) recently couldn't. Dragon's Dogma couldn't. Why would MH suddenly sell that much? Game doesn't even look amazing or story-driven enough to sell that much. Even if they bank on the success of Dark Souls, that didn't sell 6mio either or Nioh.
TheHoneyDuke
Member
Costing way more to make tooMHW would be lucky to do 3m on consoles. My guess is it sells comparably to Tri.
butzopower
proud of his butz
What I don't understand is why Capcom never brought Tri or 4 to PC to test if the Western PC market was interested.
Probably locked up by Nintendo.What I don't understand is why Capcom never brought Tri or 4 to PC to test if the Western PC market was interested.
TheHoneyDuke
Member
I think Nintendo payed for it to come to Wii. I could be wrongWhat I don't understand is why Capcom never brought Tri or 4 to PC to test if the Western PC market was interested.
Gotdatmoney
Member
MHW would be lucky to do 3m on consoles. My guess is it sells comparably to Tri.
I actually think it's gonna do pretty decent in the west. 2.5m across 3 platforms sounds reasonable. I do think MH was being limited by the 3DS to an extent (it was not that strong in the West) which in turn is why it's baffling to me they are cutting the Switch out especially now given its market strength and hardware power.
Tacorona72
Member
It just really bothers me how Capcom wants to make the franchise more appealing to western audiences, but won't localize the portable game the core fanbase really wanted.
At the moment.
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
People are downplaying the fact MH is has some obtuse mechanics that are more common to MMORPGs. Farming ingredients, farming monster parts, training cats and ore mining.
Either massive changes are coming to the drop rates or less necessary parts for crafting.
Dark Souls doesn't have this apart from some, minimal, weapon and armor drops. No use in comparing the two.
Either massive changes are coming to the drop rates or less necessary parts for crafting.
Dark Souls doesn't have this apart from some, minimal, weapon and armor drops. No use in comparing the two.
HashtagLapsed
Member
People are downplaying the fact MH is has some obtuse mechanics that are more common to MMORPGs. Farming ingredients, farming monster parts, training cats and ore mining.
Either massive changes are coming to the drop rates or less necessary parts for crafting.
Dark Souls doesn't have this apart from some, minimal, weapon and armor drops. No use in comparing the two.
That is part of the reason I think MH will appeal to the PC audience, as well as having depth in its gameplay mechanics. A lot of PC people eat that shit up.
Just a shame releasing it late might damage the reception.
You need to chill for a bit. You don't know if they already made a decision on that. They choose not to talk about it for the moment.Capcom CHOOSE NOT TO LOCALIZE MHXX.
Maybe it means that they have no plans at all or that they have plans to release it in a few months or later, maybe they decided not to bring it over.
Muchi Muchi Pink
Member
I think Nintendo payed for it to come to Wii. I could be wrong
While Tri was indeed in development for PS3, two things happened so it ended up on Wii.
1. PS3 didn't sell that great (at the time Tri was closer to release) in Japan
2. Capcom tried to get Sony helping out localizing and advertising MH in the west, but Sony wasn't willing to. But Nintendo obviously was.
Take the later with a grain of salt, because this is not confirmed information.
Aren't time-consuming MMOs dying recently? Pretty sure we discussed this 1-2 months ago.That is part of the reason I think MH will appeal to the PC audience, as well as having depth in its gameplay mechanics. A lot of PC people eat that shit up.
Gotdatmoney
Member
People are downplaying the fact MH is has some obtuse mechanics that are more common to MMORPGs. Farming ingredients, farming monster parts, training cats and ore mining.
Either massive changes are coming to the drop rates or less necessary parts for crafting.
Dark Souls doesn't have this apart from some, minimal, weapon and armor drops. No use in comparing the two.
4U sold 1.5 million on the 3DS. Generations did just under a million. The games really aren't that inacessible. The structuring is kind of stupid but that's about it
HashtagLapsed
Member
While Tri was indeed in development for PS3, two things happened so it ended up on Wii.
1. PS3 didn't sell that great (at the time Tri was closer to release) in Japan
2. Capcom tried to get Sony helping out localizing and advertising MH in the west, but Sony wasn't willing to. But Nintendo obviously was.
Take the later with a grain of salt, because this is not confirmed information.
Aren't time-consuming MMOs dying recently? Pretty sure we discussed this 1-2 months ago.
Sony also wanted them to remove ad-hoc for PSN. Or something along those lines. I remember it being a big controversy that pissed off a LOT of people at the time.
As for time consuming MMOs, I am not so sure. You can look at stuff like Path of Exile and similar games that people are putting hundreds of hours into and take a guess how MH will work out. I think there is enough to chew that will make a lot of PC gamers happy.
TheHoneyDuke
Member
Why do people compare its to dark souls anyway as if the souls game are some big success. Monster hunter sells more on 3ds then souls sells on 3 platforms. So are people saying selling less is the right direction. Let's stop bringing up souls as a positive example for monster hunters future.People are downplaying the fact MH is has some obtuse mechanics that are more common to MMORPGs. Farming ingredients, farming monster parts, training cats and ore mining.
Either massive changes are coming to the drop rates or less necessary parts for crafting.
Dark Souls doesn't have this apart from some, minimal, weapon and armor drops. No use in comparing the two.
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
The meltdowns over the past few days are going to look real stupid when Capcom continue to support Switch with more MH titles. If Capcom aren't interested in localising MHXX right now, as painful as that is, doesn't mean they're doing it to spite you.
HashtagLapsed
Member
The meltdowns over the past few days are going to look real stupid when Capcom continue to support Switch with more MH titles. If Capcom aren't interested in localising MHXX right now, as painful as that is, doesn't mean they're doing it to spite you.
I don't think it will look stupid. People are reacting to Capcom's fuckheaded messaging.
RichiRamjag
Member
That's the problem. Too many damn maybes for a game already on the platform. Even more annoying is they're purposely being iffy about it to promote a monster hunter not even coming to the platform. As dedicated as the MH community has been in they west, they surely deserve better than this.You need to chill for a bit. You don't know if they already made a decision on that. They choose not to talk about it for the moment.
Maybe it means that they have no plans at all or that they have plans to release it in a few months or later, maybe they decided not to bring it over.
It's not terrible to ask that they be straight forward up front. I thought this Japanese/western release shit was done for the most part with their titles as well so that's also frustrating.
The meltdowns over the past few days are going to look real stupid when Capcom continue to support Switch with more MH titles. If Capcom aren't interested in localising MHXX right now, as painful as that is, doesn't mean they're doing it to spite you.
I doubt they are, but historically, it's not odd for them to do crazy shit with their franchises that makes little sense to the common gamer.
The meltdowns over the past few days are going to look real stupid when Capcom continue to support Switch with more MH titles. If Capcom aren't interested in localising MHXX right now, as painful as that is, doesn't mean they're doing it to spite you.
We are reacting to capcoms brilliant PR spin
We are reacting to capcoms brilliant PR spin
yeah no the most post are reacting to something elese here lol, he is right about the meltdown part
Gotdatmoney
Member
The meltdowns over the past few days are going to look real stupid when Capcom continue to support Switch with more MH titles. If Capcom aren't interested in localising MHXX right now, as painful as that is, doesn't mean they're doing it to spite you.
Unless you know of a MH game coming to Switch with full localization plans, I don't know why you think it's reasonable for anyone to not have skepticism in Capcom. Do we need to list out all the moves they have made not just with MH but all their other franchises?
They could announce XX localization in the next 10 minutes and I wouldn't trust them at this point. People aren't pissed off for no reason. Some future MH you alude to (if you are even aluding) doesn't do anything to inspire faith in the situation right now.
Muchi Muchi Pink
Member
Why do people compare its to dark souls anyway as if the souls game are some big success. Monster hunter sells more on 3ds then souls sells on 3 platforms. So are people saying selling less is the right direction. Let's stop bringing up souls as a positive example for monster hunters future.
People do this, because Dark Souls is successful in the west and it's very likely they have to make up for the loss of japanese sales. World also looked a bit more singleplayer focused.
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
I don't think it will look stupid. People are reacting to Capcom's fuckheaded messaging.
It's not fuckheaded. They have no plans to localise MHXX right now. What more are they supposed to say? People keep saying that this isn't a MHWorld thread so stop talking about it, but the intensity of this vitriol has definitely been accelerated because of MH World's announcement. I guarantee if MH World hadn't been announced, but Capcom still said that MHXX wasn't being localised then reactions from Nintendo fans would have been far more muted.
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
Considering Capcom's history of crapping on established fan base, I'd say they aren't unwarranted.The meltdowns over the past few days are going to look real stupid when Capcom continue to support Switch with more MH titles. If Capcom aren't interested in localising MHXX right now, as painful as that is, doesn't mean they're doing it to spite you.
Muchi Muchi Pink
Member
The meltdowns over the past few days are going to look real stupid when Capcom continue to support Switch with more MH titles. If Capcom aren't interested in localising MHXX right now, as painful as that is, doesn't mean they're doing it to spite you.
Capcom Europe blamed the fans for the cancellation of Mega Man legends. Their PR drones are answering concerns (across all games) with an arrogant tone.
The meltdowns over the past few days are going to look real stupid when Capcom continue to support Switch with more MH titles. If Capcom aren't interested in localising MHXX right now, as painful as that is, doesn't mean they're doing it to spite you.
To be honest, I'm not excited much at games that might get localizated in 2020 if we are lucky, ask me again in 2019 or so. And I do think that skipping switch first year is not a good business decision. But right now I'm more worried about how much loner we will have to wait for the PC version of World.
It's not fuckheaded. They have no plans to localise MHXX right now. What more are they supposed to say? People keep saying that this isn't a MHWorld thread so stop talking about it, but the intensity of this vitriol has definitely been accelerated because of MH World's announcement. I guarantee if MH World hadn't been announced, but Capcom still said that MHXX wasn't being localised then reactions from Nintendo fans would have been far more muted.
It could be true, just because without any other mh announcement around the possibility of the localization of XX on the next 6 months could be at least "real" for the future
Gotdatmoney
Member
It's not fuckheaded. They have no plans to localise MHXX right now. What more are they supposed to say? People keep saying that this isn't a MHWorld thread so stop talking about it, but the intensity of this vitriol has definitely been accelerated because of MH World's announcement. I guarantee if MH World hadn't been announced, but Capcom still said that MHXX wasn't being localised then reactions from Nintendo fans would have been far more muted.
Marketing and branding are not just about financials. It's also about perception. People would still be extremely pissed about XX but maybe not as much. But it's not on the fanbase to control their passion for the brand. What kind of message is that? It's on Capcom to frame and message their moves in ways that don't piss people off. And if they can't do that then they need to accept the hate.
This policing of people's frustration is misguided. No matter how much you try to downplay it, people are not pissed for no reason
It's not fuckheaded. They have no plans to localise MHXX right now. What more are they supposed to say? People keep saying that this isn't a MHWorld thread so stop talking about it, but the intensity of this vitriol has definitely been accelerated because of MH World's announcement. I guarantee if MH World hadn't been announced, but Capcom still said that MHXX wasn't being localised then reactions from Nintendo fans would have been far more muted.
Was Capcom choosing to not localise The Great Ace Attorney also not "fuckheaded" since they said they were pleased with sales of a game they only released digitally in the west? (AA Dual Destinies)
lwilliams3
Member
The meltdowns over the past few days are going to look real stupid when Capcom continue to support Switch with more MH titles. If Capcom aren't interested in localising MHXX right now, as painful as that is, doesn't mean they're doing it to spite you.
Why would they feel stupid? People I seeing Red flags, and they responding now to make sure it doesn't become a reality. If Capcom does the right thing, they will be relieved. Perhaps Capcom will also noticed that there is an audience that does care what happens to the traditional/portable MH games.
Yeah Capcom fucked up the schedule big time.
Edit: MHW isn't going to sell 6mio. Their biggest franchise in the west (Resident Evil) recently couldn't. Dragon's Dogma couldn't. Why would MH suddenly sell that much? Game doesn't even look amazing or story-driven enough to sell that much. Even if they bank on the success of Dark Souls, that didn't sell 6mio either or Nioh.
Compare to Dark Souls or Nioh? No, Capcom is far more delusional than that. They probably MHW will sell like Destiny or The Division. I mean, it's an online loot game! Exactly the same! Morons.
TheHoneyDuke
Member
People should be making as much noise about this situation as they can. You really think Nintendo would have released xenoblade in North America if we didn't make our voice heard. Monster hunter fans in the west have supported the series well with the last few iterations. If capcom wants to take steps back I applaud the fans who are letting them know they are making a mistake.It's not fuckheaded. They have no plans to localise MHXX right now. What more are they supposed to say? People keep saying that this isn't a MHWorld thread so stop talking about it, but the intensity of this vitriol has definitely been accelerated because of MH World's announcement. I guarantee if MH World hadn't been announced, but Capcom still said that MHXX wasn't being localised then reactions from Nintendo fans would have been far more muted.
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
Marketing and branding are not just about financials. It's also about perception. People would still be extremely pissed about XX but maybe not as much. But it's not on the fanbase to control their passion for the brand. What kind of message is that? It's on Capcom to frame and message their moves in ways that don't piss people off. And if they can't do that then they need to accept the hate.
This policing of people's frustration is misguided. No matter how much you try to downplay it, people are not pissed for no reason
Okay so then what do you reasonably expect them to say. They don't have current plans to localise MHXX at this time and they've communicated this. What else do you expect them to say?
HashtagLapsed
Member
It's not fuckheaded. They have no plans to localise MHXX right now. What more are they supposed to say? People keep saying that this isn't a MHWorld thread so stop talking about it, but the intensity of this vitriol has definitely been accelerated because of MH World's announcement. I guarantee if MH World hadn't been announced, but Capcom still said that MHXX wasn't being localised then reactions from Nintendo fans would have been far more muted.
You think responding to fan backlash with "to clarify: we have no plans to localise it yet. But don't forget World will be getting localised lol" isn't fuckheaded? And didn't piss people off even more?
The gaming community has its own issues interpreting "currently no plans" meaning "maybe one day they just can't say anything yet" but if you think Capcom's PR here has been perfectly fine I don't know what to tell you.
People do this, because Dark Souls is successful in the west and it's very likely they have to make up for the loss of japanese sales. World also looked a bit more singleplayer focused.
Because the two minute trailer mostly showed a single Hunter fighting? I don't find that to be a compelling reason to think it will be more single player focused, especially when it ends with the player setting off a flair calling in other hunters. MH has always had a perfectly fine single player anyway, it just really shines in mp. I have a difficult time imagining they will change the formula much on that front.
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
You think responding to fan backlash with "to clarify: we have no plans to localise it yet. But don't forget World will be getting localised lol" isn't fuckheaded? And didn't piss people off even more?
The gaming community has its own issues interpreting "currently no plans" meaning "maybe one day they just can't say anything yet" but if you think Capcom's PR here has been perfectly fine I don't know what to tell you.
I'll repeat the question I posed above. What else do you expect them to say?
HashtagLapsed
Member
Okay so then what do you reasonably expect them to say. They don't have current plans to localise MHXX at this time and they've communicated this. What else do you expect them to say?
Maybe responding honestly about their plans is a decent idea instead of using soft PR? Or maybe the 'journalists' who get given these quotes could I don't know, ask "why do you have no plans to localize XX?"
The meltdowns over the past few days are going to look real stupid when Capcom continue to support Switch with more MH titles. If Capcom aren't interested in localising MHXX right now, as painful as that is, doesn't mean they're doing it to spite you.
Capcom is looking stupid for being unable to deliver a clear message.
Incompetence
You know you can be excited for a game like Worlds and at the same time give Capcom shit for not bringing a completely different game over? Maybe we'd give Capcom the benefit of the doubt about XX coming later but this is Capcom, and look how Ace Attorney gets managed in the west. They deserve all criticism they get over this.
HashtagLapsed
Member
I'll repeat the question I posed above. What else do you expect them to say?
Like I said, I believe their statement I just know they are playing into the "it isn't over yet maybe it will come some day" bullshit people buy into. It has happened this entire thread and they know they are playing to that.
Why can't they just be completely transparent about what their plans are? Why do they say one thing to one person then need to clarify on Twitter when people are pissed off?
Gotdatmoney
Member
Okay so then what do you reasonably expect them to say. They don't have current plans to localise MHXX at this time and they've communicated this. What else do you expect them to say?
I'm not Capcom marketing. They don't pay me to come up with their corporate strategy so I'm not going to answer this question for you. As I said, if they can't frame their message in a way that doesn't piss off fans then they simply need to accept the hate. Or maybe make better decisions.
If you wanna hook me up with a marketing job at Capcom that's another story. Otherwise, your policing of frustration really aint gonna fly bruh.
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
Maybe responding honestly about their plans is a decent idea instead of using soft PR? Or maybe the 'journalists' who get given these quotes could I don't know, ask "why do you have no plans to localize XX?"
But that's what they're doing. They currently have no plans to localise XX, but MH in the west will still be able to look forward to MH World. It's very clear messaging from where I'm standing. Not that difficult to understand and in no way untruthful.
Capcom is looking stupid for being unable to deliver a clear message.
Incompetence
See above.
I'm not Capcom marketing. They don't pay me to come up with their corporate strategy so I'm not going to answer this question for you. As I said, if they can't frame their message in a way that doesn't piss off fans then they simply need to accept the hate. Or maybe make better decisions.
If you wanna hook me up with a marketing job at Capcom that's another story. Otherwise, your policing of frustration really aint gonna fly bruh.
All this tells me is that you're just in a blind rage and there's nothing reasonable Capcom can say to you other than "MHXX is coming to west" that will calm you down. If they have no plans to localise MHXX right now, then all they can say is that they have no plans to localise MHXX right now. It's common sense. If that makes you angry, then it's not on Capcom to make you feel better. There's not much else they can do than, like I say, announce that they are localising the game, which they aren't.
Capcom is looking stupid for being unable to deliver a clear message.
Incompetence
They were actually clear before GameSpot had to update the article​.
Update: Capcom has reached out to GameSpot to clarify that it has no plans to localize Monster Hunter XX for Switch "at this time." The original story has been updated to reflect that. Originally, when asked, "Are there any plans to bring Monster Hunter XX, the Switch version, over here?" to which a representative for the company clearly replied, "No."
"We will have more to say about MHXX at a later time. We heard the fans feedback; however, at this time we are focusing on showcasing the newly revealed MHW."Okay so then what do you reasonably expect them to say. They don't have current plans to localise MHXX at this time and they've communicated this. What else do you expect them to say?
"We will have more to say about MHXX at a later time. We heard the fans feedback; however, at this time we are focusing on showcasing the newly revealed MHW."
You're good at this! Capcom should hire you. Clear and concise.
El Pescado
Member
I'll repeat the question I posed above. What else do you expect them to say?
Personally I expected MHXX to get announced for a worldwide release with that odd Friday date in Japan.
I don't even have anything against MHW and was waiting to see more of it before making a final judgement call, but I also expected to get MHXX first.
I don't think it's much of an overreaction to vote with my wallet and not buy MHW or any other PS4/XBO/PC Capcom releases if I don't get the game I actually want first.
They were actually clear before GameSpot had to update the article​.
I know, and it was clear since the initial announcement.
MHW was the focus.
But then they decided to change their wording to give a false sense of hope
ambiguous dishonesty
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
"We will have more to say about MHXX at a later time. We heard the fans feedback; however, at this time we are focusing on showcasing the newly revealed MHW."
You can't be serious. This is EXACTLY what they're saying though. They have no plans to localise MHXX right now, but MH World is their focus and fans in the west still have that to look forward to.
Personally I expected MHXX to get announced for a worldwide release with that odd Friday date in Japan.
I don't even have anything against MHW and was waiting to see more of it before making a final judgement call, but I also expected to get MHXX first.
I don't think it's much of an overreaction to vote with my wallet and not buy MHW or any other PS4/XBO/PC Capcom releases if I don't get the game I actually want first.
Okay, go for it. I don't really care if you want to cheat yourself out of a MH game for arbitrary reasons. As a fan of the series myself, this behavior just seems odd to me and at face value, speaks more to the fact that y'all are upset that the current focus for Capcom's MH plans aren't your platform of choice.
You can't be serious. This is EXACTLY what they're saying though. They have no plans to localise MHXX right now, but MH World is their focus and fans in the west still have that to look forward to.
What? They are not saying that. They are saying the same stuff they said about the Ace Attorney spin-offs. To me it sounds like you read what you want to read.
You can't be serious. This is EXACTLY what they're saying though. They have no plans to localise MHXX right now, but MH World is their focus and fans in the west still have that to look forward to.
You just read something that is not really here.
Nice immagination anyway!