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Kotaku UK thinks "More Like Persona 5/10, Amirite" is a good headline
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So because the rest suck it becomes okay?
Vlaphor
Member
I like some of them, such as Ann and Tae, but none of them honestly hold a candle to some of the more interesting characters in P3/4. Don't get me wrong, I still loved the hell out of P5 (current GOTY), but I don't think it'll have the staying power of Persona 4, simply due to the fact that I'm not particularly interested in seeing the further stories of these characters.
Now, if they made a Persona 5: Dancing All Night, I'd be all over that in a heartbeat.
N° 2048
Member
Not as much as P4 that's for sure but P5 is still amazing.
edit: this:
Council Pop
Member
Stopped playing after 25h. Wanted to love it, it was stylish and charming/cute, but... the overall story was barebones, the immediate story predictable and the battles - excluding boss battles, which were tougher - could run on automatic (first battle with a new enemy, try everything on him; subsequent battles, use weakness after weakness FTW).
Persona 3's story and characters are ho-hum at best by Persona standards and its pacing is godawful.
purseowner
Member
Nice to see someone pick up on the
thing that's had me laughing my arse off since the announcement of the character.
'Obvious' doesn't cut it.
Adachi/Akechi
'Obvious' doesn't cut it.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Persona 3 had the best persona characters and story tho out of 3./4/5.
I personally like most of the characters I have met so far about as much as I liked the P4 characters. I took a break from playing the game to catch up in FFXIV but from where I have stopped in the game, there is 1 more character I have to meet.
Frank West
Banned
Persona 5 is one of the most boring games I've ever played. I couldn't force myself to play any longer after the first dungeon.
It has better pacing than 4. One abduction every month and then nothing else is not good pacing.
Uno Venova
Banned
Does Persona also have a Zelda cycle? People loved this game when it came out.
SunBroDave
Member
Yeah, neither the story nor gameplay were able to overcome the immense feeling of monotony that made me quit after 30ish hours.
No, characters and story
To me P5 is like FF12 of the persona games. Loved it for the gameplay, music and world, but I didn't feel the characters that much sadly.
Still great game tho and nothing less than 8.5/10
Sun Bather
Member
Love the game, but the hand holding and at times frustratingly slow pace of the game, is a big annoyance, and I can see why it would kill some peoples interest, especially a game that demands as much time as this. I find most of the characters fine though, and the story as a whole while being all over the place, fine enough. I am used to way worse from JRPGs in that department.
Sgt. Kabukiman
Banned
Every game has such a cycle to some extent. But aside from the extremely positive critical reception, there were several threads criticizing the game on GAF around the time of its release, this isn't new.
They're different styles of writing with different purposes.
I get what you're saying and agree. My point though is that a review is someone's opinion of a product's qualities. Kinda off topic, I guess and should probably be disussed in a different thread.
tiebreaker
Member
How the hell is the dungeon design a stepdown? People need to replay P3 and P4, and see how boring those dungeons are.
miller.skippins
Banned
There were reviews that slammed Kubrick's 2001 A space odssey back then too.
Not everyone can have good taste.
Look at all the shit Uncharted 4 got, but still won GAF's GotY.
There's always an angry minority who love to get mad about very popular games.
I skipped almost all of the dialogue in the last 25% of the game. It had gotten pretty dumb and repetitive by that point. Just mashing away on the X button reduced everything to some variation of:
"Shitty adults!"
"...cognitive psience..."
"We won't give up!"
"... shitty adults!"
"FOR REAL?!?!?"
Persona 5 really is the poster child of style over substance. I mean, I liked it enough to finish it, but it really did seem like they phoned in the plot and character development this time.
"Shitty adults!"
"...cognitive psience..."
"We won't give up!"
"... shitty adults!"
"FOR REAL?!?!?"
Persona 5 really is the poster child of style over substance. I mean, I liked it enough to finish it, but it really did seem like they phoned in the plot and character development this time.
Incandenza
Banned
There's plenty to criticize about Persona 5 but that headline would get ripped to shreds if someone made a GAF thread with that title, and yet it got posted to Kotaku. Gross.
cj_iwakura
Member
It was a PS3 game, no one expected any different.
I doubt it, I've seen nothing but moaning about the game in the last month or so
names2hard4you
Member
For me story and characters wise, Persona 3 was the best one. Mechanics and tone wise I liked 5, but it had too many other negatives in my opinion, making Persona 4 my second favourite even though I really wasn't a big fan of the whole chirpiness or Scooby Doo antics it had. But with 5 I struggled to finish the last 20 or so hours. They felt just dragged out.
People still love it including me. You're just going to see the few that didn't like the game in a thread like this. Like the guy who got bored after the first dungeon probably hasn't played the other Personas.
Yautja_Warrior
Member
Each to their own I guess, I don't have any major issues with the story or characters tbh, sure they aren't the best ever but they are still fine and far from a "glorious dumpster fire" I've played many games with far worse story and characters and I've enjoyed the time spent with these characters in Persona 5 so far.
GrantDaNasty
Member
People have opinions, who knew?
Not sure why an entire thread is dedicated to it, but I guess we're gonna need to have a sit-down and talk about how games are a subjective medium and one person might enjoy a game and another might not and those parties should agree to disagree.
Or people can crack wise and start tearing into this writer because it does not line up with their opinion...cause the internet.
Not sure why an entire thread is dedicated to it, but I guess we're gonna need to have a sit-down and talk about how games are a subjective medium and one person might enjoy a game and another might not and those parties should agree to disagree.
Or people can crack wise and start tearing into this writer because it does not line up with their opinion...cause the internet.
Persona 5 is a GOTY contender and probably the best rpg of the year as well.
You missed out the ''For me''
and I am sure we ll dealing with that just fine
The story never got out of the way enough for any of the characters to truly shine like they did in p3 or p4. There were hardly any just "for fun" events that help build up the characters, and the game overall suffered slightly because of it.
Like literally any time a fun event happened in the game that could give us quite a bit of character stuff, nope, story gets in the way. (Yes, story beats spoilers ahead):
Going on a school trip, a staple of the modern Persona games featuring at least some fun character beats? Don't worry, your characters will be too busy looking at their phones about what's happening in Japan in terms of your group instead of enjoying it!(Yes, it's done on purpose, it doesn't make it fun). Celebrating Futaba getting out in the world with a fun beach trip? Don't worry, here's operation babe hunt 2.0 with far less character beats as we see the characters attempting it, but we won't get any dialogue! Celebrating rescuing Haru from the clutches of her father by going to a basically Disneyworld? Don't worry, the press conference has to be for THAT SAME NIGHT to put a damper on the festitivies that you as the player won't see the characters partake in anyway!
Still a very fun battle system, and I did dig the story the whole way through. But no, it's probably not as fun as Persona 4's hang out environment I guess, and when you're with characters for +100 hours, that's kind of important.
tenderbrew
Member
Only thing I'd do to make P5 better is shorten the dungeons.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
70h in. I like the game... but I do not care for anybody.
AHA-Lambda
Member
I can't disagree too much really?
I bought in the hype and tried it out and gave up after ~20 hours. Story was slow (these games really don't need to be 100+ hours I'm sorry!) and the combat and dungeons grated quickly
Sue me, sorry :/
I bought in the hype and tried it out and gave up after ~20 hours. Story was slow (these games really don't need to be 100+ hours I'm sorry!) and the combat and dungeons grated quickly
Sue me, sorry :/
NightShift
Member
I thought almost all of the characters were great and memorable even though they do conform to basic archetypes. But, yeah, the story was just meh. I did want to get into it and was looking forward to the major plot points a lot but they were all disappointing. There was one scene close to the end (
) that was so terrible I was debating skipping it because it was ruining the game.
Akechi's "death"
Aside from Futaba, and a couple of the Confidants, I didn't give a shit about any of the main characters. A huge departure from how I felt about previous Persona games.
Lord of Ostia
Member
This is a good point, outside of one on one social link building, you don't get a lot of 'hangout time' with the main cast. I think they did that as a means of giving the story a greater sense of urgency and weight than the murder mystery of P4 (which the main cast spends 80% of the time clueless about and bumbling around) but it does impede the player from forming bonds with the characters. Coupled with the fact that the plot wants to have a sense of urgency yet the game is so incredibly long that the sense of pace is very slow, so the player doesn't really buy into the sense of urgency the plot is trying to cultivate.
Council Pop
Member
Oh yeah, they're both subjective, I absolutely agree with you there.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
Morgana freaking sucks. Freaking bad game mechanic. Just let me do what I want. I feel so restrained all the time.
SprachBrooks
Member
Lol, this is terrible reasoning.
No, 4 did the same thing. It's just a step down character and dungeon wise
It's telling that the vast majority of the character interaction you get is actually from the random voice lines as you're exploring Mementos instead of in the actual story itself. There's like hundreds of lines that add a lot more characterization to everyone, especially on a relationship level...you just have to be lucky to hear it. Just odd...