http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2017/07/14/more-like-persona-510-amirite
Not sure I agree, I loved the game. Sure the story is quite average, but so are 9 out of 10 rpgs these days.
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Kotaku UK thinks "More Like Persona 5/10, Amirite" is a good headline
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http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2017/07/14/more-like-persona-510-amirite
Not sure I agree, I loved the game. Sure the story is quite average, but so are 9 out of 10 rpgs these days.
Council Pop
Member
I think you mean "One freelance writer who has never written anything for Kotaku before blasts Persona 5 in what is clearly an opinion piece".
I think they were a little harsh; however they have some points. I loved the game and greatly enjoyed the story but I doubt I'll ever play through that game again; even a port/golden version.
I played through P3 and P4 multiple times but I am not so sure about doing that with this one. Maybe I'm just tired of being forced to sleep.
I played through P3 and P4 multiple times but I am not so sure about doing that with this one. Maybe I'm just tired of being forced to sleep.
Breaking news, articles about how good a game is are opinion pieces.
Not sure "so are 9 out of 10 rpgs these days" is a standard a persona game should lower itself too
It's ridiculous how little effort was put into the PS4 version, jaggy as fuck, ridiculous textures that counter act the amazing art style and a horribly wrong gamma that makes the dungeons unpleasant to look at.
I like the game, played it on the Pro but it has no right to not even have some AA on it even on the base ps4 version.
I like the game, played it on the Pro but it has no right to not even have some AA on it even on the base ps4 version.
Council Pop
Member
Nope, an opinion piece is something specific- it's an often knowingly controversial and polemical piece of writing which is usually trying to make a particular point.
BobTheFork
Member
I know Kotaku is shit, but don't just tie this sad attention grab to them.
What does that change, the guy has a controversial opinion and his thought about it has as much value as any others articles or reviews. Just because he wanted to focus on something doesn't make his opinion any more subjective than anything else.
That said, this is Kotaku and judging by the headline it's obviously just clickbait, nothing worth anyone's time.
The body of the article isn't unreasonable unlike the clickbait headline.
I have to agree. I quit the game bored out of my mind after 40 hours because there was no semblance of a plot (it was just disconnected case after disconnected case, with none of the cases having any kind of surprise or interesting development. It was alway 100% obvious how everything would go) and none of the main characters seemed interesting to me. I don't know if it was the voice work, the characterisation or the largely terrible localisation, but it was absolutely no comparison to the amazing group of (soon-to-be) friends Persona 4 G presented to me.
Also...there is "stylish HUD" and there is cramping up 2/3 of the TV with needless crap that gives me no useful information whatsoever.
Also...there is "stylish HUD" and there is cramping up 2/3 of the TV with needless crap that gives me no useful information whatsoever.
It's always sad to me when someone writes something that has some sort of validity and then completely blows their credibility on a huge overreach statement like this author did.
He blasted the game (called it 5/10) how is it clickbait?
Jawbreaker
Member
Man, I still didn't want the game to end after 180+ hours. I liked all the somewhat self-contained stories that went along with themed dungeons. I was also happy to see the darker themes return after the sugary P4.
AFAIK the headline of newspapers can sometimes be determined by an editor, not sure if that's the case here. Either way it's IMO a good and strong critique of the game.
Vincent Alexander
Member
I'd be defensive too if a game I loved had an article like this written about it. But Persona 5 isn't a game I love. I beat Persona 2, 3, FES, 4....couldn't stand 5. Sold it after I finished the first dungeon. If there was a single character I cared about, or the storytelling wasn't horrendous, I might have been able to make it.
They're not wrong about the villains,
Oh and Compared to 4, the characters are weaker. The last party member who joins you could be cut, along with the fifth dungeon and it wouldn't make a difference. Despite being a main character they didn't even bother developing her. The dungeons were also a step down making the battles boring and a chore.
Oh and Compared to 4, the characters are weaker. The last party member who joins you could be cut, along with the fifth dungeon and it wouldn't make a difference. Despite being a main character they didn't even bother developing her. The dungeons were also a step down making the battles boring and a chore.
SoundPulse
Banned
The headline is indeed very clickbait-y, but I'm finding myself nodding my head at some of their points here.
Council Pop
Member
I don't get your point. My point was that the OP seemed to be implying that Kotaku were somehow anti-Persona 5 as a site, which firstly is ridiculous as the majority of main Kotaku writers are Persona obsessives, and secondly this is clearly an opinion piece written by a writer specifically as a counterpoint to the critical lauding that Persona 5 has received.
Nope, every review of every kind of product is by definition an opninion piece.
entremet
Member
I think upon further examination it is a fairly shallow critique of the game that boils down to "the story didn't work for me because reasons". I don't see anything here that hasn't been covered in numerous forum posts - all the author did was string together a bunch of complaints semi-coherently without really engaging with his criticisms in a thoughtful way.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Are people not feeling P5's characters?
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Pretty hyperbolic but I can see some of his points.
... You hadn't even been introduced to half the characters by the first dungeon, so how would you know?
I thought you were trying to disregard this guy's opinion because it's just one guy against the general opinion, and thus shouldn't be taken as anything else than a controversial opinion. Fine then, I didn't get your point.
Council Pop
Member
Also: some people need to get off their sub-Gamergate anti Kotaku high horses. Kotaku is one of the most consistently interesting, investigative and diverse game sites around, and even if you're not a fan of their house style, or the opinions of their main journos or whatever, it seems bizarre to single them out as a particularly bad website. Online journalism is a sea of clickbait, and I don't see how Kotaku is any worse than literally any other media outlet.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Aside from futaba and makoto I sure didn't
I agree with many of the points, tbh.
Yeah, I'm 40h into it too and I feel like I would have to force myself to continue. Hearing that there's probably another 60h of the same left turned me off so hard.
Vincent Alexander
Member
You're right. Maybe some later I would have. So let me rephrase....if a single character in the first 10 hours I liked, I might have stuck around.
SENPAIatLARGE
Banned
Persona 5 is a GOTY contender and probably the best rpg of the year as well.
tenderbrew
Member
Fine that he thinks that. I thought the characters were very good, the story was pretty good, and the game overall was excellent and deserves the praise it got.
The author seems like they feel that the game is stuck in neutral after Kamoshida and that hour 40 is no better or worse than hour 60 and that there was no meaning progression to the story.
Sgt. Kabukiman
Banned
I agree. Not a bad game but my biggest disappointment of the year so far and a huge step down in terms of storytelling for the series. Story and characters were no good aside from chapters 1 and 5.
Vincent Alexander
Member
Final Fantasy XII Zodiac Age just came out, so Persona 5 has been topped.Persona 5 is a GOTY contender and probably the best rpg of the year as well.
Characters and story weren't the game's strongest point like P3 and 4 imo.
Sarcastic Poster
Member
The dungeons are awful.