Orochinagis
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heh, seamen, hehehehehahahahaha....
I'm not doubting you or anything but I wonder what you found "awesome" about that trailer since pretty much all of it require to know Kanye West and some of his antics.
I know right, all those Jewish jokes from way back when are super funny because Matt Stone considers himself ethnically Jewish, and they make fun of everyone anyway.... so when Cartman dressed like Hitler back in Season 8 and started a race riot chanting the words "We must exterminate the Jews" it was actually hilarious and I'm just an out of touch old man.
it's not virtue signaling when the joke is not just mean spirited and punching down, but also uses minstrel show caricatures and homophobic jokes to get to a punch line.
Matt Stone considers himself ethnically Jewish
Well you are.
I was specifically responding to a post asking how JeTmAn81 thought that these jokes were fair play because it's Kanye.
I don't see the reason for listing Kanye's shortcomings if not to justify the jokes.
It don't make sense otherwise.
This statement seems to imply that an argument can be made that Stone is not in fact Jewish. Is that the case? I haven't heard that before.
Holy shit. My mind has blownTook me TEN YEARS to pick up on the movie's title of "bigger, longer, and uncut".
This statement seems to imply that an argument can be made that Stone is not in fact Jewish. Is that the case? I haven't heard that before.
But how would you draw a cartoon female fish?
I am not saying you are wrong; they do a lot of pointlessly edgy stuff these days.
But how would you draw a cartoon female fish? I guess their choice of her body color is weird when the Kayne fish is so much lighter by comparison. You either take the lipstick off or lighten the body color, then I think the resemblance would be gone. It could be a design accident. It reminds me of that Canadian parade with the kids pushing the floats. I didn't think that was intentional either, just really oblivious to the optics if it.
Yes, the Kanye joke was homophobic...
Not about, y'know, his inability to accept criticism or overall lack of humour.
And this trailer is taking the piss out of his mother's passing...
Not about, y'know, the idea of making a melodramatic mobile phone game to commemorate his mother's passing, and how ridiculous that is.
I mean, it's basically the slogan of the show, right? South Park: Where Everything is Surface Level and Nothing has Context.
I can't belive they would mock Kanye. Don't they know he's a genius and a revolutionary voice of the generation?
Someone basically said, there's no reason to dislike Kanye other than because he's black and speaks his mind.
Another person responding to that, letting them know that they have reason to dislike him, doesn't mean they are okay with or are justifying the joke.
Kanye is insufferable so I'll laugh at pretty much any mockery of him
South Park had an episode in Season 13 where they again retreated to the 'loud, insecure celebrity is actually a closeted gay man' well of jokes (having done so earlier with Tom Cruise/John Travolta in Season 9), but this time it was a B-Story about Cartman stealing a 'gay fish' joke from Jimmy, only to also have it stolen from him by Carlos Mencia, who tells it to Kanye. The whole joke boils down to 'Kanye has no sense of humor and is insecure about his closeted homosexuality.'
Now we've got a talking gay fish (minus all of the context about joke stealing and humorless celebrities) with a gold chain and a dead mom. Someone posted the context for the 'unicorn' video game on the first page. Now they've added a full-on mammy fish for no good reason. And we got clowns in here fronting like this is what South Park is and does and stop being outraged snowflakes omg.
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[quote="spannicus, post: 249676083"]They calling him a gay fish. Kanye wanted to make a game about his mother going to heaven and SP is making fun of that.[/QUOTE]
Ok I get it now.
The black mom fish isnt ok though. Who tf thought that was ok???
I know right, all those Jewish jokes from way back when are super funny because Matt Stone considers himself ethnically Jewish, and they make fun of everyone anyway.... so when Cartman dressed like Hitler back in Season 8 and started a race riot chanting the words "We must exterminate the Jews" it was actually hilarious and I'm just an out of touch old man.
Now I'm not saying anything about you not finding the joke racist becuase I didn't either until someone showed the mammy can and hot damn South Park that's bad.I'm 40 years old. I have an idea who Keyne West is but only because he was made fun of in an older South Park episode ("the fishdicks" one). I couldn't name one song of him nor was I aware that his mother just died. Hence, I didn't 'get' the inappropriate joke about his mother, nor did I make a connection between the fish and her, let alone black people. For me, it was just a random fish on a farting unicorn.
So, please, do not confuse me finding this trailer 'awesome' with me defending the racist joke.
Ok I get it now.
The black mom fish isnt ok though. Who tf thought that was ok???
I take your continued dishonesty about how you're on caught this 'generic cartoon fish woman' instead of 'thinly stretched Kanye-gay-fish joke at the expense of the late Donda West' as a sign to stop engaging with you.
Googled "female cartoon fish":
Ok I get it now.
The black mom fish isn't ok though. Who tf thought that was ok???
But may I ask, why are you so certain of your perspective. Why do you think I am being dishonest? Is there zero possibly that it was just a design accident and people where oblivious to the resemblance? I did not see it until it was pointed out (and I am not the only one).
No one, south park still makes these kind of stuff for shock value, it's what makes hard for people to stay with the show.
For every thing mildly progressive they do, there is shit like this.
It's like their portrayal of Caitlyn Jenner, they were coming from a trans positive episode and then like 2 or 3 episodes later they portray her visually as a person who had a botched surgery.
He also tries so hard to play himself as some sort of victim all while profiting off his egotistical idiot moments because his fans will fall for anything.He's black and not afraid to speak his mind.
That's about it I'm sure.
But come on you knew who Kanye west was everyone knows who Kanye west is. My grandma makes fun of me for liaising to a crazy man when I tell her about Kanye west. Haha
So racist, homophobic and jokes about dead woman almost completely unrelated to his fuckery are ok because you don't like someone?He also tries so hard to play himself as some sort of victim all while profiting off his egotistical idiot moments because his fans will fall for anything.
Am I supposed to feel sympathy for a rich millionaire that even Obama called a jackass?
I love how much South Park pisses so many people off and how little it would bother Matt and Trey. Give these games to me now please!
You love racist stereotypes making people upset?I love how much South Park pisses so many people off and how little it would bother Matt and Trey. Give these games to me now please!
I'm pretty sure they did that because everyone was congratulating her on being brave and all that, but everyone was quick to forget that she killed someone after hitting them with her car (And AFAIK got away with it), and I feel like the reason she looks the way she does in SP is to reflect how horrible of a person on the inside she is, and yes, incorrectly celebrated for being Trans, IMO.
And this is coming from a MtF, if that has any significance to anyone.
I love these hot takes about how much they cosign on racist humor
I want more! More racism! I love how it offends snowflakes!
You love racist stereotypes making people upset?
Please keep telling me about yourself
Also trans, but it just came off as making fun of her for being trans for how she looks to me. I really don't buy the "They made her ugly because she's terrible on the inside" thing. They've never done it like that for other people
You love racist stereotypes making people upset?
Please keep telling me about yourself
Thanks for assuming I'm white and straight