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[ocean]

I think it says a lot that you hopped on D1 just to play crucible. I hope they make some changes to PVP first and foremost, including allowing us to play the game mode we want.

I like them both but they're very different. Like not "this is the sequel" different; almost feels like "different franchise" different. I hop on D1 Crucible to use my double-nade+double-smoke Graviton Nightstalker because there's nothing in D2 that approaches the level of movement/ability spam I can pull off there. But you have to take the bad with the good - you'll die to a Super or sticky nade or 1 shot Snipe/Shotty 10 billion times per match.

When I'm on D1, I miss the primary gunfights where I come out ahead and feel I outskilled an opponent. When I'm on D2, I miss the big plays where I can get 3 people down with a wombo + sidearm.

Fun detail though: I got real used to my assists counting in D2 lol. I feel absolutely robbed when I play D1 and somebody swoops in and janitors my kill

 

[TheCanisDirus]

I like the variety present in Faction Rally

You can basically do anything in the game plus some of the new content and objectives sprinkled in

This is a solid event

Agreed. Would have been amazing if it came with brand new weapons and armor. Not bad for a first round.

 

[DrROBschiz]

Agreed. Would have been amazing if it came with brand new weapons and armor. Not bad for a first round.

Yeah here is hoping they keep expanding on it

 

[Future PhaZe]

Is there any point in doing the raid when you hit 300 light? If all the drops are 300...the only chance to get better would be through an exotic engram.

 

[Tovarisc]

Is there any point in doing the raid when you hit 300 light? If all the drops are 300...the only chance to get better would be through an exotic engram.

Raid weapons and raid exotic are legit good.

 

[DrROBschiz]

Is there any point in doing the raid when you hit 300 light? If all the drops are 300...the only chance to get better would be through an exotic engram.

Yeah

to experience it and complete it

I mean... Destiny is one of those game where you can play the parts you like and ignore the parts you dont

But if you have a good group that can show you the ropes the raid is a lot of fun

 

[LordOfLore]

As mentioned in the de-stressing thread I'm debating picking the game up. Is there a PS4 guild or something that could take me in if I get it tonight?

 

[TheCanisDirus]

Raid weapons and raid exotic are legit good.

Yeah. I think these have been the best raid weapons since VoG. The AR/Pulse/RL/Sword are god tier.

 

[Kadey]

I need to get one of those Marcy Darcy snipers.

 

[LiK]

Does the faction rally award tokens for public events and lost sectors in other destinations, or is it still EDZ today?

Everything from everywhere. Not restricted.

 

[E92 M3]

I need to get one of those Marcy Darcy snipers.

 

[Zereta]

Agreed. Would have been amazing if it came with brand new weapons and armor. Not bad for a first round.

A good opportunity for these events would be to new weapon archtypes before they roll out in the next content pack.

For example, if Osiris is going to introduce 5 new Auto rifle archtypes, the event/events leading up to it could begin introducing those new elements?

Also, pre-DLC events leading up to the DLC would be real cool. Sort of a free narrative prequel event.

Like if Taken started showing up just before The Taken King launched and that was a mystery that rolled into the expansion launch.

 

[Dave_6]

Lol, damn I loved that show.

 

[Mikey Jr.]

So how did it work in destiny 1 regarding power/light?

Does bungie increase light or does that only come with expansions?

I'm at 302 right now, and 305 is max, correct? And I have almost all raid gear.

If I trade this game in right now, power wise, I won't be left behind with the expansion?

Clan mates were talking about a prestige level raid. But how can I get better if I essentially get 305 power? Or will the cap be raised?

Thanks guys.

 

[LiK]

I need to get one of those Marcy Darcy snipers.

It's for players who can't snipe. You don't need it.

 

[E92 M3]

Lol, damn I loved that show.

Me too - watched it many, many times. And it's still funny to this day.

 

[CorrisD]

Does the faction rally award tokens for public events and lost sectors in other destinations, or is it still EDZ today?

It's everywhere.

If your in a clan that is level 4 you get more rewards from Cabal enemies, going from all the tokens I keep getting from just killing Cabal on Io this includes randomly getting more faction and destination tokens too from just wiping out legions and legions of them.

 

[Pandora012]

Is there any point in doing the raid when you hit 300 light? If all the drops are 300...the only chance to get better would be through an exotic engram.

I think so, the raid is kinda fun when done with friends. Especially when beating the boss.

 

[LiK]

Raid is fun when everyone knows what's to do and is on the same page. Can go by quickly.

 

[MastAndo]

I need to get one of those Marcy Darcy snipers.

It'd be better if it made chicken noises.

 

[ch4fx_]

As mentioned in the de-stressing thread I'm debating picking the game up. Is there a guild or something that could take me in if I get it tonight?

Clan recruitment page is here, & this thread is very active so feel free to ask for help in here.

You'll probably have questions, so don't hesitate to ask. We're all here to help.

 

[Steve.1981]

I like the variety present in Faction Rally

You can basically do anything in the game plus some of the new content and objectives sprinkled in

This is a solid event

Yeah, it's really cool and a good sign of things to come. I'm on every night this week (if possible) to get as many Faction Tokens as possible.

I remember the first 'event' of D1, involving the Awoken, when the Queen's representative came to the Tower. As I recall, the whole thing was roundly lambasted for being ridiculously grindy, unrewarding, and generally a complete waste of time.

We're in a much better place these days, relatively speaking.

 

[void666]

So how did it work in destiny 1 regarding power/light?

Does bungie increase light or does that only come with expansions?

I'm at 302 right now, and 305 is max, correct? And I have almost all raid gear.

If I trade this game in right now, power wise, I won't be left behind with the expansion?

Clan mates were talking about a prestige level raid. But how can I get better if I essentially get 305 power? Or will the cap be raised?

Thanks guys.

It will be raised to 350 i believe.

 

[FrsDvl]

35min from ´o

If I'm not too late I'd like to join if you don't mind me having no experience with the raid yet

PSN: FrsDvll

 

[ZOONAMI]

Just got sweet business from fwc!

Also, is there any real advantage to celestial nighthawk on a hunter? It actually seems like it downgrades golden gun dps wise.

Think I might shard it for my foetracer.

 

[SlimySnake]

So how did it work in destiny 1 regarding power/light?

Does bungie increase light or does that only come with expansions?

I'm at 302 right now, and 305 is max, correct? And I have almost all raid gear.

If I trade this game in right now, power wise, I won't be left behind with the expansion?

Clan mates were talking about a prestige level raid. But how can I get better if I essentially get 305 power? Or will the cap be raised?

Thanks guys.

Vanilla Destiny's max light level was 30. First DLC pushed that to 32. Then second to 34.

They completely revamped the light level with the third DLC and made the max 310. Then increased to 320 when hard mode launched. April pushed that to 335 and the last DLC pushed it to 400.

The cap will be raised to 350 when the hard mode raid launches.

 

[cucuchu]

So how did it work in destiny 1 regarding power/light?

Does bungie increase light or does that only come with expansions?

I'm at 302 right now, and 305 is max, correct? And I have almost all raid gear.

If I trade this game in right now, power wise, I won't be left behind with the expansion?

Clan mates were talking about a prestige level raid. But how can I get better if I essentially get 305 power? Or will the cap be raised?

Thanks guys.

From what I understand, 350 is the new max when the prestige raid is live. Once the new expansion is out, there will be a higher max. It will keep going up and they will likely change the soft cap as well so for example, someone just starting a year from now will likely be able to hit 400 before the end game grind starts (assuming the max is 450).

 

[E92 M3]

It'd be better if it made chicken noises.

 

[Finn of Ooo]

Are transversive steps worth keeping if I'm not into PvP? Trying to decide whether I should infuse into my normal boots.

 

[Echelon079]

Anyone doing FWC have the hand cannon? I love hand cannon and it sounds like it would be fun to play with in PvP, but I HATE the look of everything. Also, I have a friend who had the FWC auto, but is dead orbit. Did it more than likely come out of a cayde chest or can you get the weapons in other ways?

Also, I learned the super fun that using Old Fashioned in PvP is.

 

[Hawkian]

Had a great raid last night minus one crappy guitar error. I love the group dynamic progression of getting more confident with everything.

I love that there are new events and objectives on planets tied to the faction rally. The conveyance around them is good too. Get the new milestone, check out a Lost Sector, oh what's that I can shoot it, boom tokens, oh what's that, that wasn't there before to scan, boom 5 tokens. It's also great as an extension of the whole "oh, I can do this while doing this" thing that becomes second nature where you can stack Flashpoints, Patrols, Challenges, earning the zone tokens for gear you want, etc. at the same time from one activity.

I hope for a regular cadence of stuff like this that gives you an excuse to go screw around and explore. There are still Lost Sectors I haven't seen so this also gives me a great reason to check those off.

 

[DrROBschiz]

Anyone doing FWC have the hand cannon? I love hand cannon and it sounds like it would be fun to play with in PvP, but I HATE the look of everything. Also, I have a friend who had the FWC auto, but is dead orbit. Did it more than likely come out of a cayde chest or can you get the weapons in other ways?

Also, I learned the super fun that using Old Fashioned in PvP is.

Compared to better devils its kind of a preference thing

Damage is slightly higher and range is better

Damage is delayed and fire rate is slower. Plus the explosion has a smaller blast radius than better devils.

Definitely take it for a test drive if you get it

 

[purg3]

Are transversive steps worth keeping if I'm not into PvP? Trying to decide whether I should infuse into my normal boots.

I only use mine for PvP, otherwise for PvE I tend to stick with the Lunafaction boots or one of the exotic helmets.

 

[jmartoine]

That feeling when you're running strikes for the daily faction milestone and someone has 5 kills by the end and refuses to shoot the boss.

 

[Echelon079]

Compared to better devils its kind of a preference thing

Damage is slightly higher and range is better

Damage is delayed and fire rate is slower. Plus the explosion has a smaller blast radius than better devils.

Definitely take it for a test drive if you get it

Are we talking the explosion damage is delayed compared to Better Devil's or just the damage in general?

 

[GhaleonEB]

There was a milestone yesterday for collecting lost sector tokens in the edz that granted an extra stack when finished. But tokens in general were available everywhere. Haven't logged in yet to see if there is a new milestone today.

Yeah, it did say EDZ so I'm not sure what was up with that and when I completed that daily milestone or whatever it was it gave me zero indication of anything and it was just gone from the director/milestone sidebar thingy.

Ah, one of the resource caches I destroyed in a lost sector granted me 16 tokens out of the blue. I'd done several of them at that point, so I wonder if that was the reward for clearing the milestone. I didn't think to check'em. :lol

Today's faction rush milestone is to run three strikes, guessing it will grant another similar stack.

 

[Steve.1981]

Are transversive steps worth keeping if I'm not into PvP? Trying to decide whether I should infuse into my normal boots.

Infusion fodder. Most pointless Exotic armour I've found yet. They look cool though.

 

[Hoho for breakfast]

Mida + Foetracer helmet is like cheat mode lol. I'm generally terrible at pvp but I can compete with those plus Uriels Gift.

Anyone doing FWC have the hand cannon? I love hand cannon and it sounds like it would be fun to play with in PvP, but I HATE the look of everything. Also, I have a friend who had the FWC auto, but is dead orbit. Did it more than likely come out of a cayde chest or can you get the weapons in other ways?

Also, I learned the super fun that using Old Fashioned in PvP is.

I have the hand cannon and the auto rifle but havent used the hand cannon. I only played a few pvp games with The Number (AR) and honestly I think I prefer Uriels Gift to that. May just have to play with it more. I heard the hand cannon is good though. Will have to try it out later.

 

[Hawkian]

Just got sweet business from fwc!

Also, is there any real advantage to celestial nighthawk on a hunter? It actually seems like it downgrades golden gun dps wise.

Think I might shard it for my foetracer.

Hmm, it is a substantial DPS increase over 3 regular precision golden gun shots on the bottom spec, and an enormous increase over the top spec, on a single target.

Both in the "damage" sense (does more total) and the "seconds" sense (takes less time to do it). Make sure to use the bottom spec and connect with a crit shot. On the raid boss and

Spoiler

pleasure gardens

in particular, because of the damage buff stacks, it is essentially the absolute best you can do in terms of using your super offensively.

It is useless outside of the context of a high health target I.e. Nightfall, PE or raid boss. In all other cases, one of the two regular GG options are better.

 

[Frostburn]

I really just think they need to separate PvP and PvE balancing. I think their weapon design is negatively impacted because they choose to prioritize PvP balancing. That's just my opinion of course, but I do think it makes the PvE loot a lot less interesting.

Has Bungie ever addressed this at all? Would be curious to know their thoughts and why they continue to keep everything combined... I mean I assume because it's easier but would like to know if there's a bigger reason.

Bungie could really open up and go nuts in pve if they kept things separate... Shame

They have addressed it in some tweet or interview. Basically they don't want to separate PVE and PVP at all in terms of balancing because they want something you earn to "feel the same" in PVE and PVP. So while there are some changes to how things work, their goal is to keep them the same across both no mater what the cost.

 

[BlakeofT]

Raid thought

Spoiler

Why do people rotate clockwise on marathon? Our group has just been staying on our platform, jumping down to kill psion and then aiming right for the next gate. Seems way easier? Not that it's difficult anyway

Bringing this back up from yesterday. I did this strat last night with someone who has only done it the other way. We did it in one try and he said that it was a lot easier. I'm thinking that it's easier because

Spoiler

you're doing the same thing over and over instead of needing to be aware of what's happening.

Still, it's a very easy encounter.

 

[Ikon]

Fixed. Sorry bout that.

Thanks a ton!

 

[Zereta]

Wait, the power level cap is going up to 350 when Prestige raid launches? That's exciting, right? Isn't that new for Destiny, PL/LL increases before a major new expansion drop?

Thats one way to keep the grind going I guess.

 

[void666]

For the next faction rally i think i'll pledge for the same faction on all three characters. This time i should've chosen FWC. Good looking armors and great weapons.

 

[noomi]

I'll add my 2 cents... why not?

As a former hardcore player turned casual, I'm quite happy with where Destiny 2 stands now in terms of grind/progression. I don't feel like I need to play 8 hours every day to stay relevant, and going at a slower pace feels just as rewarding as powering through all the content as quickly as possible.... to me anyway.

I like that I can login to the game post reset, start my milestones and be done with most of them in a day or two without too much difficulty. This gives me time to do other things, maybe play another game, watch a movie, or spend some time with my family, whatever.

I totally get peoples frustration about the end game and not having a carrot to chase, whether is be perfect rolls and grinding xp, but for me... it's feels good the way it is. I have "Left The Game Happy" each and every time I've logged off... well maybe not after logging out after a bad quickplay match

 

[DrROBschiz]

Are we talking the explosion damage is delayed compared to Better Devil's or just the damage in general?

Literally delayed

So the first hit is like a regular hand cannon shot and is then followed closely by the sticky bomb explosion

It hits harder from further and with the right use of cover probably is quite good.

But this is a hand cannon where you want to abuse the range and the perk.

 

[Niceguydan8]

They have addressed it in some tweet or interview. Basically they don't want to separate PVE and PVP at all in terms of balancing because they want something you earn to "feel the same" in PVE and PVP. So while there are some changes to how things work, their goal is to keep them the same across both no mater what the cost.

Which is fine, I just think it really limits what they can do with PvE stuff.

Please don't increase PL to 350 - such a hassle to chase another cap after getting 3 characters to 305.

This is Destiny. You should know by now that it's going to happen. If you don't want to take part in a gear treadmill, Destiny probably isn't for you.

 

[E92 M3]

Please don't increase PL to 350 - such a hassle to chase another cap after getting 3 characters to 305.

 

[GhaleonEB]

I'm digging the faction rally. It's pushed a lot of people out into the public events, given me a new reason to run lost sectors, and the daily milestones are adding rewards to other events (strikes today). And the loot is generous - 10 tokens earns a faction package. Good stuff.

 

[br3wnor]

I cheesed to do it, but got all the New Monarchy armor for my Titan and super pleased w/ how it looks. Using the War Rig chest so I have a shader on it and blends pretty well (though official NM chest looks better)

There’s a lost sector on Titan that you can run over and over that was getting me about 160 tokens an hour (did about 3 hours). You run in, take about 45-60 seconds hopping around destroying all 6 loot caches and then let them kill you in the middle of the room, you respawn 90% of the time right outside of the LS entrance, rinse and repeat. Put some music on and it’s a pretty easy grind, I knew I wouldn’t have the time to play this week to get the Armor legitimately so this was a big help.