broncobuster
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Regarding implanted memories, I was curious if Mackenzie Davis character also had those memories the way she looked at the wooden horse. Ill need to watch it again.
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Blade Runner 2049 |OT| Do Androids Dream of Electric Boogaloo? [Unmarked Spoilers]
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The leader did say... everyone wants to believe it's them.
CosmicGroinPull
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Saw it last night, decided to do a warm-up sketch. Seriously this part had my mouth drop the whole time.
Wow nice. I didn't realise how anime she looked until now, lol.
Beer Monkey
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She said "It's from the tree".
This stuff is all the real legend that all the resistance knows about.
Dice//
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She'd be a curiosity if she was found out, poked, prodded, experimented, dissected. Probably best not to reveal it's you--- sadly it meant K thought himself the "hero" instead, but it also lead to his "most human" outburst.
Mostly just me talking since this has been answered: But it's still interesting that K is the only one who sorta 'solves the mystery'. He may not be "the one", but I think the movie does a lot to make sure he's not just another character/pawn to join the frontlines of a resistance. He had another role, and whatever set him apart worked out well. So I wonder if he was the only one to actually track Deck's daughter to that memory (she acted like it was the first time SHE saw her memory in someone else).
CosmicGroinPull
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Shit that's clever. I totally missed it.
nhlducks35
Member
There's a lot of throwbacks to the original that I noticed (some obvious, some less so)
The opening text crawl
The shot of the eye in the beginning
The scene of Luv doing the air strikes has similar quotes to when Deckard was watching the screen in the OG (Zoom in. Stop.)
When Mariette says "More Human than Human" is quoting Tyrell
Tears in Rain OST
The opening text crawl
The shot of the eye in the beginning
The scene of Luv doing the air strikes has similar quotes to when Deckard was watching the screen in the OG (Zoom in. Stop.)
When Mariette says "More Human than Human" is quoting Tyrell
Tears in Rain OST
Ordinaryundone
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It's "fake" empathy because Replicants don't have involuntary emotional reactions programmed into them. The kind of stuff that humans can't control; eye dilation, sweating, increased heart rate and breath rate. Things like that. Replicants CAN do those things but they have to mentally start doing them themselves, leading to a different reaction time. Measuring that involuntary response is the whole point of the VK test, the actual questions and your worded response to them don't matter. It's explained that it's the big tell of a Replicant, short of taking them apart to see the serial numbers. They can fake outrage or sadness, they might even really feel it, but they can't do it like a real human.
Of course, the first film establishes that Replicants actually DO have emotions regardless of how much their eyes dilate so now the new VK test seems more built to make sure that a Replicant actually is acting like a robot, measuring the lack of a response rather than looking for one.
The ship art must be going crazy in Tumblr right now.
still the best song on the soundtrack...
nhlducks35
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Also, I really loved the "Interlock/Cell" scene in the beginning, because I'm sure most of the audience (including myself) were going "what the f is going on" at first
A Serious Man
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For awhile during the film I thought 6-10-21 was going to be a code or signal between the "woke" replicants since they all shared that memory but it only appeared twice so I guess not.
Gentleman Jack
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The only part of the score I'd call music. The rest of the 'fuck it max the gain knob' noise screeching out at inappropriate moments kept taking me out of the movie. God I've never been so irritated at a soundtrack. Even when they use old songs they really wanted to leave a ringing sound in your ears for no good reason.
Dice//
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I love the second go at it (where K essentially fails it). He gets some really devastating news and the music drowns out the test... there's no way he can keep focused and the loud music and obnoxious test really makes you feel his anxiety and agitation.
That 0:40 segment in Mesa of the 2049 soundtrack is to die for. Just makes you wanna melt.
(Also reminds me of Millennium Actress, so that's a plus.)
(Also reminds me of Millennium Actress, so that's a plus.)
if they wanted to make Blade Runner not about the music then they definitely succeeded
"boom" "boom boom"
Nihilistic Monk
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Was deffo a ram wasn't it. When K goes to the 'orphanage' theres cigarettes in the ashtray and the ashtray is a ram. I though that was totally a nod towards Gaff being involved in the coverup?
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Fuck! I just put two and two together. It was Gaff that ripped the pages out!
tonysidaway
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The dangerous truth of this fictional universe is that only a serial number on the skeleton and in certain body parts such as the right eyeball marks a person as a slave. A naturally born child of slaves would be physically indistinguishable from any other human. The myth of the replicant would die.
AuthenticM
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You guys know where's the best place to buy a digital copy of the soundtracks of both movies?
Young people didn't come out to see this movie. That's why.
Beer Monkey
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All this bomb talk is premature. It'll make money internationally.
Either way this is going to kill it at the awards and there's no worry about Denis' appeal to studios, this only elevates him.
Either way this is going to kill it at the awards and there's no worry about Denis' appeal to studios, this only elevates him.
ZoltanXerxes
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Saw it last night at 10:35. I think the movie could have been a little shorter. That's my only complaint about it really. The atmosphere in this movie to me is crushing (in a good way). The world in this movie is so well done that I would have to say it's one of my favorites. The movie somehow made me feel like I was enveloped in the scenery. Buying this when it's released on Blu-ray.
Been listening to that part over and over. It's just magical.
Its her own memory implanted into K. The horse is hers.
Tony Redgrave
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Why do people really care about the numbers? The only reason I'd have is Villeneuve but I think he's already set for good so I'm not worried.
Do you guys really want more Blade Runner? IMO this one is already skating on thin ice regarding the story so I'm actually dreading the thought of another film about a tropey replicant uprising. It was good, respectful and critically acclaimed, that's all it needed to be I think.
Do you guys really want more Blade Runner? IMO this one is already skating on thin ice regarding the story so I'm actually dreading the thought of another film about a tropey replicant uprising. It was good, respectful and critically acclaimed, that's all it needed to be I think.
snausagesUK
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Yeah, this is a great film but no-one needs a bladerunner franchise or cinematic universe.
Beer Monkey
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I'm going to start a GoFundMe for Denis, he'll be living on the streets unable to get signed to direct films very soon.
Well hey, you ain't seeing Villenueve pull a Luc Besson comment at least.
ZoltanXerxes
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I agree. I really don't want this to turn into some uprising replicant stick. That would completely be the opposite of the Blade Runner movies.
You don't have to be so flippant. I just said two pages back that I think Denis will be fine and that we're yet to get an idea of this film's performance overseas.
Dice//
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To keep the films noir narrative, they can't do that and it'd be awful if they did change genres to accommodate (alas, a good enough action film would probably do better with the the movie masses).
They could probably do another, but i'd hope the war stuff is in the background --- this is more a quiet detective's tale that only sometimes gets loud.
Because numbers means alot for the studios that allow these films to be made. It's not only about Blade Runner or more Blade Runner. It's about big budget serious sci-fi films in general. If this flops, studios will take it as a sign that big budget, adult themed and serious sci-fi films are not popular, and will, sadly, either postpone or cancel upcoming films in that genre. That's the biggest problem. I mean, in a worst case scenario, Villeneuve might get a lower budget for his upcoming Dune, or worse, it will be postponed for several years.
Critial acclaim is all good, but that doesn't earn studios their money back. Box office numbers, home sales etc does.
Turbo Killer
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Id take a movie about the off world.
I know, I know. It's just that I'm imagining if I was a Replicant I would be second guessing all of my memories.
Turbo Killer
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I know about that one.
Dice//
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I sorta like the point being you don't always know who is or isn't and you can play with the idea too. But it doesn't matter I guess?
I kinda like that older Deckard, human or replicant, knows his experience and that's what's real --- he doesn't let the idea of real/fake make or break him.
Shit, i should watch that again. Only saw it once back in the day.
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My fucking boy. Well done.Saw it last night, decided to do a warm-up sketch. Seriously this part had my mouth drop the whole time.
good luck!
Gentleman Jack
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Because they like seeing what skilled directors do with huge budgets outside of the cape-and-underwear set and a high profile bomb puts that at risk in the future.
Tony Redgrave
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Ok, yeah that's reasonable. I wasn't thinking of any scope beyond the movie right now, I'd like for it to do well in that regard too but I think it's going to be difficult to call this a commercial success no matter how we slice it.
FIREKNIGHT2029
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😳 Wow, that's amazing.Saw it last night, decided to do a warm-up sketch. Seriously this part had my mouth drop the whole time.
This scene also had me in total awe.
Ordinaryundone
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Being a Replicant is probably an existential nightmare. You know that the majority of your memories are probably fake but you've no way of knowing where the cut-off is. Just how old are you? Did you exist yesterday? Do you currently exist? What if your memories of 5 minutes ago are fake? How would you refute it?
The Nexus-6 had it easier. They may only live 4 years but they could be sure that every moment was there's.
Oh holy shit, I had never heard of this. Same guy who made Boogie Nights and Magnolia too? I'm fucking in.
Will report back in two hours.
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