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Are Sony exclusives too samey?
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Toe-Knee
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I have always hated God of war but won a copy in a competition and played it and its now my favourite game this generation.
It's really good. So good it converted someone who hated it beforehand.
Koala Driving a Ferrari
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I take back my comment on the Sony exclusives looking "samey". I just watching the DF video that covered the Sony Press Conference and everything shown looked great and unique. I must have been suffering from E3 fatigue when I initially appraised the Sony conference with a less than positive review. Too much beer, too many bags of Doritos. These things happen.
Naughty Dog games from now on will probably be a bit too... err... "progressive" for my own personal taste but they are leading the industry in terms of third person action games and animation tech. Seriously impressive stuff. I won't be picking up TLoU 2 but damn is that game looking impressive. I think we're at the point where we have superseded the graphical fidelity that we (or at least, I) presumed this generation would have in store for us. Great stuff!
Naughty Dog games from now on will probably be a bit too... err... "progressive" for my own personal taste but they are leading the industry in terms of third person action games and animation tech. Seriously impressive stuff. I won't be picking up TLoU 2 but damn is that game looking impressive. I think we're at the point where we have superseded the graphical fidelity that we (or at least, I) presumed this generation would have in store for us. Great stuff!
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EDMIX
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I know right , Dreams, WilD, GT Sport, Gravity Rush, all like The Last Of Us and the same / s
FranXico
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Wtf happened to WilD, btw?
Psykodad
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Tbh, Socom was one of Sony's best franchises back in the days and M.A.G. was awesome and deserves a sequel..
Then again, Zipper got closed, so I don't think there is a Sony-studio up for the job.
Unless Bluepoint could do a remaster.
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Wonkytonk
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Croatoan
They/Them A-10 Warthog
I hate the building in fortnite and the hitscan bullets. PUBG is only on xbox, so my only option is h1z1 and it's jank.
Overwatch isn't a BR.
Also an AAA BR would be incredible. Hoping battlefield delivers.
Whitecrow
Banned
If Sony made a Pac-man game, Pac-man would have lost his parents, a friend would have betrayed him, but then he would have realized that he is the chosen one and then he would start to fight the system, have some troubles and hard times, and eventually, die like a hero saving pac-world, and leaving behind his son, pac-boy, to open the possibility for a sequel.
I would bet my neck on it.
I would bet my neck on it.
Deputy Moonman
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The rest of the world pretty much hates the US, and that is more of a factor than anything for why the xbox doesnt sell well in other countries. Even at the height of the 360's popularity, game sales in other countries weren't exactly great, and that was not for a lack of diverse games on the 360 at the time. So your argument is not necessarily fail proof.LMAO You think im a fanboy ok Enjoy youre opinion Buddy
The question is here why is ms not successful in Europe ?
Whats the reason that ms is losing in europe every generation
It has to do with the direction they choose with their games
Sony has different games in different genres
Thats right that their games are cinematic and action the reason is that todays gamers like cinematic experiences that is why sony makes cinematic games
DynamiteCop!
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No, they're vastly diverse 
mckmas8808
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AgentP
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No, they're vastly diverse
So if you cherry pick scenes with trees the games are suddenly the same? Can you find pics with trees from Witcher 3, State of Decay 2, Monster Hunter World, Jurassic World Evolution and Breath of the Wild to show they are also in that group?
DynamiteCop!
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You're not getting the point of this picture, this is the primary output of Sony's first party. Their games mostly share the same design philosophy spun off of each other and thus they lose their identities. A lot of people will say that Sony themselves is providing a ton of variety but when you break things down to their core they're actually the least diverse first party of everyone. They have strong output, they are good games, but they are not risks, they are safe bet third person cinematic experiences which are aesthetically and operationally comparable.
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Dlacy13g
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its a good question.... too samey? Well, they certainly have some diverse content... Norse Mythology, Samurai warrior in fuedal Japan, Super Hero game, Post apocolyptic zombie like worlds, Future destroyed world of dinobots, Future world of android living. So on that note no, I find it pretty diverse. HOWEVER.....if you are talking game play structure... man it does feel like all Sony does these days from a 1st party standpoint is 3rd person action settings.
Dlacy13g
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You are missing the point.... Nintendo: Race Cart game, Party game collection, 3rd person sports games, side scrolling platformers, 3rd person RPGs, fighting games...... you say rinse and repeat because of their Iconic characters but their diversity of game types is unparalleled. Sony's efforts of this generation have largely revolved around the 3rd person action game. They have a few outliers but largely its been very formulaic of late. That doesn't mean the games are bad by any stretch btw. For many (myself included), they are more than fine with what Sony is doing.
The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
LMAO You think im a fanboy ok Enjoy youre opinion Buddy
The question is here why is ms not successful in Europe ?
Because they fucked up the Xbox One E3 reveal.
rokkerkory
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They are following a recipe that is working (for now)... as long as the games are quality, it's all good.
FranXico
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Five years these kids have been waiting for their moment. Five long years. They cannot wait until their beloved Microsoft rules supreme. One Console, man.
MrRenegade
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This is what matters. Your words are golden. Sony lets creativity thrive and this is their secret.
I'd say they're a bit samey in terms of art style and genre's seem to overlap a bit but each game definitely has a unique personality. Also, I kind of like that Sony has a distinctive "polish" to their games, almost acts like a Sony seal of quality. Nintendo games have their "look" too.
However, I would like for Sony to make an RPG or something completely different in tone, art style, and genre.
However, I would like for Sony to make an RPG or something completely different in tone, art style, and genre.
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Fbh
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No, they're vastly diverse
You can make pretty much any game of similar visual style (as in "realistic" or "cartoony" or "anime" etc) look similar by cherrypicking screenshots
Where's the tribal villages of Horizon, or the fields with Mech Dinosaurs, or the tech lairs you discover? Where's the trolls and monsters and giant norse mythological structures of God of War? The urban locations, the african savanna or the ancient temples of Uncharted 4?
Days gone and TLOU look way too similar to each other, I'll give you that. Although gameplay and focus wise they are really different. TLOU is a more linear, cinematic and story heavy game while Days gone is open world and from what I've seen focuses on gaint zombie hordes.
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SLoWMoTIoN
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Its funny how people keep bringing up the western first party games and call it samey even when they are still different from each other. When BOTW came out everybody called it the best game ever and that Nintendo games were always different, yet if you called it Zelda Skyrim you'd get buried in hateful replies or outright banned in certain websites. Funny.
DonJimbo
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No they fucked up from the beginning of the XBOX
They lost every generation and their losing has nothing to do with the e3 reveal
DunDunDunpachi
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They're a bit samey, but I think that's a good thing. When your fans buy a system, they actually like it when you deliver more of the games that made them buy that system. See: Nintendo.
Granted, there are disadvantages if you focus too heavily on one genre or one "look", but since the beginning Sony consoles have been rich with a wide variety of 3rd-party games, offsetting the potential problem.
I'd like it if Sony branched off into more genres, but they do that often enough for my tastes. The true metric to determine whether or not Sony exclusives are "too samey" in the eyes of the market would be to examine sales. Clearly, Sony's games sell well enough to continue the practice.
Granted, there are disadvantages if you focus too heavily on one genre or one "look", but since the beginning Sony consoles have been rich with a wide variety of 3rd-party games, offsetting the potential problem.
I'd like it if Sony branched off into more genres, but they do that often enough for my tastes. The true metric to determine whether or not Sony exclusives are "too samey" in the eyes of the market would be to examine sales. Clearly, Sony's games sell well enough to continue the practice.
The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
Keep telling yourself that. Just remember that that Xbox One is good for you, cus if Sony had no competition they would scree every customer harder than they do now, since there would be no competitor to make them anti consumer.
Sony is a business and not for pleasuring you. Just like Microsoft or any other corporation.
Bankai
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No, they're vastly diverse
Haha, gotta admit that's pretty funny and true
But the quality is there. Can't deny that. Furthermore, I don't like MP games much - so the best quality SP games which happen to look a tad similar (in perspective, that's pretty much it: I'll take it!
Hendrick's
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They certainly like their third person action narrative games. Not sure this is an issue as they have diverse settings and varied gameplay, but it is beginning to feel a bit one note overall. I know a lot of people love these types of games, so it makes sense for them to focus on them. It does suck for those of us that would rather see some other types of games get the Sony AAA treatment, but trends like this tend to shift over time anyway. It's certainly better than a slew of first person shooters or battle royals.
tryDEATH
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They probably are going to start to feel very samey once they all release, because there are only so many 3rd person games you can play before they start to overlap on game play elements. In my opinion a much more concerning issue is the gloomy and draining nature of all these games, every game is trying to tell heavy stories, that start to feel less like games in which you have fun, but more so a trail which you follow to the finish line to conclude the story.
Sony clearly standardized the formula for their big AAA games that are meant to have global appeal, which isn't bad, but is not something that will be able to go on for much longer if they don't include some game chancing elements to fresh up the 3rd person experience, after all these are 30 to 40 hour experiences, that have a rather limited replayability compared to games with heavy online components. As much as people love to trash Xbox for Halo and GoW it is something PS should have heavy invested in creating, because those game concentrate on a decent story, but a premium online experience that players can spend 100's and even 1000's of hours playing due to great gameplay mechanics, something that is non existent on the PS right now.
Sony clearly standardized the formula for their big AAA games that are meant to have global appeal, which isn't bad, but is not something that will be able to go on for much longer if they don't include some game chancing elements to fresh up the 3rd person experience, after all these are 30 to 40 hour experiences, that have a rather limited replayability compared to games with heavy online components. As much as people love to trash Xbox for Halo and GoW it is something PS should have heavy invested in creating, because those game concentrate on a decent story, but a premium online experience that players can spend 100's and even 1000's of hours playing due to great gameplay mechanics, something that is non existent on the PS right now.
Kagero
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Shit! Looks how beautiful those games are! With visuals like these I don't even care how, " Samey" they are. The crazy thing is these games play as good as they look.No, they're vastly diverse
Danjin44
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I said this before but I would say let 3rd party handle MP focus games. They much more popular and more people play those games because the multipaltform games. I personally like Sony focusing on SP games and they also have 3rd party console exclusive Japanese games like Persona, Dragon Quest and Yakuza.
Scopa
The Tribe Has Spoken
Maybe because that is a dumb thing to say and the people saying it are probably attempting to troll. Poorly. BotW plays nothing like Skyrim.
thelastword
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A camera angle is not a genre though. It's only a camera angle. How many angles are there to makes games in? which one has the most games currently. A racer can assume many camera angles during play. A platformer can be first person, tpp or 2.5D, yet some people say most of Sony's games are TPS. Then VR is a whole other perspective in terms of feel and immersion.....
Yet if we look closer....
FPS
SONY: Killzone, Resistance
MS: Halo
TPS:
SONY: Uncharted, TLOU, Days Gone, Socom, Syphon Filter, The Order 1886
MS: Gears, Recore
TPP
SONY: GOW, Detroit, Until Dawn, TLG/ICO/SOTC, Bloodborne, Concrete Genie, Gravity Rush, Rain, Tearaway, Ape Escape, Hot Shots Golf, MLB the Show, Infamous, Mod Nation and LBP karting, Sly Cooper, Knack, Lost Soul Aside ...
MS: Fable, SOD2
2D/2.5D
SONY: Patapon, SFV (funded), Playstation All Stars, LocoRoco, Pupeteer.
MS: Some Indies.
Then a million VR games and thirdparty exclusives.......you can't find anywhere else
All of these games are different and play differently. MS is not leading Sony in variety in any genre......In the Third Person Perspective, you get anything from shooters to platformers, to adventure games etc etc....Dreams is like it's own genre. Sony has so many different games on the table you even forget some of them, and there are a lot they can revive and no doubt we will see a host of new IP's from WWS next gen irrespective.....Savage Starlight from Naughty is a possibilty. A new IP from Barlog etc.....They're always bringing new things to the table every generation, but XBOX fans are just stoked for the next Forza, Gears and Halo or another subpar Zombie game. The original XBOX did not have the quality games PS2 had, but Allard had the right idea and they had some very nice exclusives.
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JordanN
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For an entire console generation output, their games are more than diverse. Just look at LittleBigPlanet, Knack, Dreams, Tearaway, Gravity Rush as straying away from the "over the shoulder" template.
But because they want to set the benchmark/sell third party games, their major AAA games get more attention.
But because they want to set the benchmark/sell third party games, their major AAA games get more attention.
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Danjin44
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Don't forget about Puppeteer I personally really liked that game.
visiblemode
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No. The criticism is absurd to me. The thing they most share in common is exceptional quality.
AgentP
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It's open world game with combat, NPC dialog and some puzzles. It is closer to Skyrim than HZD is to Uncharted.
thelastword
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That's about right, great graphics, great polish, great animation, nice sound design, great gameplay, solid framerates....In such respects, they're the same allright.
Sony did have an early start on the online shooter space but failed to capture it. It came with a headset, lobby's, clans, fully leveled so the only differential was skill and map knowledge. A thing called covering vantage points unlike what cry babies call camping..
MAG was fantastic.
As for a studio that could pull off SOCOM again. I say two studios could do it.
1. Naughty Dog's Multiplayer Team. Between what they have done with Uncharted Multiplayer as well as The Last of Us Multiplayer, there is no questions they are the right team for the job
2. Team that developed Spec Ops: The Line.
3. Runner up would be the team behind the Division. Cut the scope of The Division in half and it can be done.
You mean it sold better on the handheld platforms that have triple the install base of the GameCube and WiiU?
Which franchise has Nintendo trusted to launch a console with? Zelda or Animal Crossing?
AgentP
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Maybe you were playing Quantum Break?
"Break things down to their core."
You're posting pictures of trees and acting as if this is serious criticism. None of those games play in a similar way.
This complaint just looks more and more pathetic. Especially when, and this has to be said, the Xbox does not have a single exclusive coming out this year that have a similar level of critical acclaim.