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Star Wars: The Last Plinkett Review
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Patrick S.
Banned
He should drop the voice already. I like these reviews less and less, I gotta say.
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PerezDeCorcho
Member
It wouldn't be a Plinkett review in that case. I didn't like the Episode VII review much at all, but I can vouch for this one. There are good comparisons/criticisms to be found throughout.
Red Crayon Aristocrat
Member
Whoa, this was unexpected.
I mean obviously I knew a Plinkett review would happen but they didn't say anything about one being on the way.
I mean obviously I knew a Plinkett review would happen but they didn't say anything about one being on the way.
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Patrick S.
Banned
He isn't really doing the voice properly anymore, it's almost his normal voice. It's like 60% his normal voice and 40% the Plinkett voice. It sounds really off to me.
Geki-D
Banned
There wasn't really an Ep VII review, instead he briefly talked about it but The Star Wars Awakens video was actually a look at the current state of SW. Though I'm disappointed he didn't do a real review and they were so tame with the movie on Half in The Bag. TFA sucked too and there was a lot to say about it.
Also we have an OT for RLM:
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/redl...ot-is-this-ot-replacing-the-other-ot.1463195/
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Mahadev
Member
You heathen, how dare you.
Anyway great review, I really like their theory that you might not notice something but your brain does which impacts the overall experience of the movie. Our brain might not notice everything but when the bullshit accumulates it eventually leads to a bad impression even if we can't remember most of it.
plasmawave
Banned
Earlier Plinket reviews sounded like he had cotton balls in his mouth.
Teletraan1
Banned
This was spot on. I still remember seeing Empire Strikes back in the theaters when it came out. I was a huge Star Wars fan for most of my life. Then those awful prequels came out but I was still interested in seeing what happened post RotJ, I didn't mind TFA, it was a lot of treading the same water but it was ok. I didn't care for them flipping everything on its head in TLJ but that wasn't even its biggest problem. The script just sucked, none of the decisions made in the movie by the characters made any sense, it was all nonsense to forward the terrible plot. There was a lot of out of place "comedy" in this movie that just fell so flat. When I heard Mark Hamill complaining about how Luke was portrayed in this movie I knew it was going to be a disaster. Really disappointing movie.
Punished Miku
Gold Member
I'm not even going to call it a boycott. I have to actually intend to see something and then decide against it to actually boycott it.
I simply just don't give a fuck about this series anymore. It is dead. I can't even bring myself to watch Rogue One or TLJ on Netflix for free, and I saw each movie just one time in the theater. If someone gave me a free copy of Solo, I am not 100% sure I'd even watch it.
This review was pretty spot on. Even seeing tiny clips of this monstrosity just reminds me how much I hated it.
I simply just don't give a fuck about this series anymore. It is dead. I can't even bring myself to watch Rogue One or TLJ on Netflix for free, and I saw each movie just one time in the theater. If someone gave me a free copy of Solo, I am not 100% sure I'd even watch it.
This review was pretty spot on. Even seeing tiny clips of this monstrosity just reminds me how much I hated it.
Fox Mulder
Member
It's a second film in a trilogy that ignores and discards things set up in the first. I just don't even care about the next one or where this is even going. The standalone films have been duds too and apparently put on hold after Solo.
These are gorgeous movies though and the actors aren't awful. It's not their fault.
I'm not going to boycott the next one because I just don't really care. Meanwhile, I can't wait for the 1684th MCU film. Disney is probably working hard somewhere on cloning Kevin Feige.
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Weiji
Banned
100% agree with this review.
Ironically I far preferred The Last Jedi’s hot mess approach to this universe over the The Force Awakens, which was a boring rehash to me.
I feel like Rogue one was a cool idea executed very poorly.
And Solo was a mediocre execution, probably the best actual movie in the series. But only because it’s contemporaries were so poor.
But that’s these movies in a nutshell, they are very pretty but they have horrible scripts and dialogue. As films they are terrible and nonsensical.
There are moments that I like in each, and ideas that would have been wonderful, if the rest of the movie wasn’t aggressively self destructive.
They really need a couple people on storyboards aggressively fighting to ensure things MAKE SENSE.
Ironically I far preferred The Last Jedi’s hot mess approach to this universe over the The Force Awakens, which was a boring rehash to me.
I feel like Rogue one was a cool idea executed very poorly.
And Solo was a mediocre execution, probably the best actual movie in the series. But only because it’s contemporaries were so poor.
But that’s these movies in a nutshell, they are very pretty but they have horrible scripts and dialogue. As films they are terrible and nonsensical.
There are moments that I like in each, and ideas that would have been wonderful, if the rest of the movie wasn’t aggressively self destructive.
They really need a couple people on storyboards aggressively fighting to ensure things MAKE SENSE.
TrainedRage
Banned
Digital printed cocaine you say... I'm intrigued, continue.
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SLoWMoTIoN
Unconfirmed Member
Why do they always suck SW cock in Half in the bag
Then months later for revenue they shit on it oh wait yes
Fucking hacks
Then months later for revenue they shit on it oh wait yes
Fucking hacks
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SLoWMoTIoN
Unconfirmed Member
Red Crayon Aristocrat
Member
Watched it.
I admit I enjoyed Last Jedi in theaters but I had zero expectations and I was pleased that the movie you could say.... subverted my expectations.
But hindsight is 20/20 and yeah.... fuck The Last Jedi, this video makes a flawless argument for why it's trash, those clips contrasting the attitude presented on Star Trek with Holdo in TLJ is painful, what's wrong with modern culture where the message in the movie is "shut the fuck up and never question a woman"?
And fuck Star Wars in general, it's over, I skipped Solo and will more than likely just flat out skip Episode 9.
Who could have imagined Disney would fuck it up this badly?
I admit I enjoyed Last Jedi in theaters but I had zero expectations and I was pleased that the movie you could say.... subverted my expectations.
But hindsight is 20/20 and yeah.... fuck The Last Jedi, this video makes a flawless argument for why it's trash, those clips contrasting the attitude presented on Star Trek with Holdo in TLJ is painful, what's wrong with modern culture where the message in the movie is "shut the fuck up and never question a woman"?
And fuck Star Wars in general, it's over, I skipped Solo and will more than likely just flat out skip Episode 9.
Who could have imagined Disney would fuck it up this badly?
Frank Spencer
Banned
If Kathleen Kennedy by some miracle is still there by the time Star Wars 9 hits I won't be watching in theatres. How if she is gone I will at least go and see it post opening weekend.
MilkyJoe
Member
It is a terrible movie that had one job, to be part 2 of a trilogy. It instead disregarded the entire build up of Luke for a cheap gag, and ignored everything built up to who Rey is and why is she so powerful. In doing so he killed the trilogy dead and rendered Rey as the most atomic Mary Sue in cinematic history. The movie ends no different to it started only with fewer rebels and, since Carrie passed, no Skywalkers left for the begining of part 9, the final part, of the Skywalker saga.
Arimer
Member
I agree with most of the points in this Plinkett review. TLJ was just not a very well made movie. One thing I didn't think of is the comedy angle and if you watch some of the scenes, especially Fin's reactions to anything it's like they told him to play the bewildered guy in a comedy movie.
Frank Spencer
Banned
Shame Plinkett didn't mention how and now especially Carrie is gone we didn't have the classic trio on screen together one more time. I was hoping for a flash back in TLJ but to no avail.
Pointing out the Gareth Edwards minus helmet cameo just shows what a joke this series has become. Any credible director would tell that person to put a helmet on, then again any credible director would skip these silly cameos in the first place.
+ I don't get how Rey is considered a Jedi with little to no training?
On a lighter note I feel Daisy Ridley should star in a female reboot of The Mask.
Pointing out the Gareth Edwards minus helmet cameo just shows what a joke this series has become. Any credible director would tell that person to put a helmet on, then again any credible director would skip these silly cameos in the first place.
+ I don't get how Rey is considered a Jedi with little to no training?
On a lighter note I feel Daisy Ridley should star in a female reboot of The Mask.
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DoctorEkkoUK
Member
The sad thing is even the EU stories that they threw out with the de-canonisation, while having it's own share of duff writing at least contained some coherent story arcs that would have been preferable than the 'make it up as we go along' writing employed for this trilogy.
Ulysses 31
Member
Mauler still has the best TLJ review and critiques.
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Musky_Cheese
Banned
I can’t watch it. The voice...
But if he said the movie was bad, I agree.
But if he said the movie was bad, I agree.
kunonabi
Member
Mauler still has the best TLJ review and critiques.
Mauler's 3 part series and this Plinkett pretty much cover everything wrong with TLJ. Plinkett's take actually covered some new ground which is pretty impressive considering how how much critique the film has already seen.
Teletraan1
Banned
The only movies in under the disney umbrella that they didn't seem to hate on half in the bag were solo and TFA and even those weren't glowing especially Rich.. The rest were chided pretty hard on Half in the Bag especially this movie. "That was the magic that was star wars and its gone, they flushed it down the fucking toilet." is one hell of a strange cock suck so I hope your post was sarcasm and my detector is broken.
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SLoWMoTIoN
Unconfirmed Member
Yeah then they were like RICH WOULD YOU RECOMMEND THIS MOVIE YOU JUST DIDN'T LIKE
and he is like Yeah! I'm like ehhhhh
and he is like Yeah! I'm like ehhhhh
thequestion
Member
Still can’t believe the brain trust at Disney pulled a “Transformers the animated movie”, on us. At least they could of left Luke alive and be apart of the future films in a co-starring role. But no, we have to kill Luke. Can’t have him potentially overshadowing your new favourite character Ray.
This move didn’t work in the 80’s with offing Optimus to make room for Rodmus, and still doesn’t work now.
Also, if you have the resources of Disney and the best script you have is a group of good people on one ship, another group of bad people on another ship, and two talking heads on an island, for the majority of a Star Wars movie, then you’ve got some serious problems. Still can’t get over the absolute lack of imagination used in this new trilogy.
This move didn’t work in the 80’s with offing Optimus to make room for Rodmus, and still doesn’t work now.
Also, if you have the resources of Disney and the best script you have is a group of good people on one ship, another group of bad people on another ship, and two talking heads on an island, for the majority of a Star Wars movie, then you’ve got some serious problems. Still can’t get over the absolute lack of imagination used in this new trilogy.
Frank Spencer
Banned
Wonder what Abrams will remake for SW9?
I'm going with Smokey and the Bandit part 3.
I'm going with Smokey and the Bandit part 3.
Mahadev
Member
I disagree, he's not a shit director, he's a shit writer. As a director he's decent I guess but as a writer he's completely incompetent, a level of incompetence only matched by his pretentiousness. He really thought he was making a point with that story line about the annoying blue haired lady that refused to explain to anyone what the fuck she was doing.
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Cunth
Fingerlickin' Good!
I agree. And I thought this after seeing his other movies. As a director he is ok, but he’s not a good writer and it boggles my mind that he was given that much responsibility on this huge franchise. It was a really poor decision.
Red Crayon Aristocrat
Member
I had zero expectations for Last Jedi, now I have zero interest in Episode 9.
For one thing you know you won't be able to trust reviews as all critics will go easy on it because "gotta spite the man babies!" much like Ghostbusters 2016.
It's probably the best thing for Hollywood that Episode 9 bombs, forcing them to give us new ideas for a change, so yeah, I probably won't bother.
DunDunDunpachi
Patient MembeR
I watched the full review yesterday. Was pretty on-point with his criticism of the haphazard plot and strange characterization of the First Order.
I actually couldn't get more than 30m through the movie itself, last time I tried to watch it. It wasn't the worst movie I'd ever seen, but it just felt like someone had accidentally added CGI to all the B-roll, deleted scenes, outtakes, etc instead of making a real SW movie. Seems like my hunch was correct (I like his comparison to National Lampoon's Family Vacation).
I actually couldn't get more than 30m through the movie itself, last time I tried to watch it. It wasn't the worst movie I'd ever seen, but it just felt like someone had accidentally added CGI to all the B-roll, deleted scenes, outtakes, etc instead of making a real SW movie. Seems like my hunch was correct (I like his comparison to National Lampoon's Family Vacation).
W. T. Snacks
Neo Member
The comparison of TLJ to a comedy like National Lampoon's Vacation has totally changed my view of the film. A comedy of errors indeed. Also, yikes, those deleted scenes. I swear, it's easier for me to accept that Johnson was just trying to sabotage the sequels rather than being this inept at writing a Star Wars film.
plasmawave
Banned
It's hard to feel sorry for those heroes when they are in constant bad situations because of their own stupidity.
Petrae
Member
I couldn’t even be bothered to see TLJ. After sitting through The Force Awakens and Rogue One, I was done with Star Wars. I gave it two chances to wow me under the watchful eye of Mickey Mouse, and it failed both times.
I don’t like the new characters. I don’t like the new settings. I don’t care for the seemingly forced agenda, where every Star Wars movie cast now looks like a Benetton ad from the 80s. The changes don’t feel organic. I don’t like the retelling of the same stories.
I admit that I accepted Star Wars being done after EpIII. I was okay with that. It was time. I really tried to give Disney Star Wars a chance. I wanted The Force Awakens to appeal to my inner fan and proclaim that Star Wars was back... but I had to watch A New Hope as soon as I got home to rinse the taste of a poor imitation out of my mouth. I sat through Rogue One and felt nothing. It was a waste of my time. I pledged not to waste more by sitting through any more Disney Star Wars.
It’s great that other people like this stuff. I’ll never advise anyone not to. But I never will again.
ruvikx
Banned
He gets everything right with this review, except for one part he overlooked: the acting in TLJ is freaking terrible. Now maybe some of that is the result of the rubbish script, but Rey aka Daisy aka British girl in particular looks like a total fish out of water in the film. Her delivery is awkward & she has weird facial expressions going on. When she's shooting from the Falcon at the end is particularly amateurish (@54:07, i.e. her "Wooo I like this!" with the look of someone beating a high score in a arcade shooter):
That's just one small example among a whole bunch of WTF acting moments which destroy the immersion. Domhnall Gleeson as Hux was another sh*t on a stick performance.
That's just one small example among a whole bunch of WTF acting moments which destroy the immersion. Domhnall Gleeson as Hux was another sh*t on a stick performance.
Cunth
Fingerlickin' Good!
I think all the actors gave up when they read the script. They will be on the dust pile with Hayden Christensen soon enough
Lupingosei
Banned
She was playing a stereotype, so that was probably the problem.