Support NeoGAF

[Geki-D]

Phil never says things like that as an excuse to lock players out or practice anti consumer practices. Phil promotes his brand he doesn;t use what he thinks of his brand as an excuse to be anti consumer.

So I sort of pointed out that this is the sort of thing Phil would say too. Whilst it's true he hasn't used it as a reason to block anything, that isn't really why Sony are blocking it either. It's because they won't gain anything but their competitors will. It's a business decision and Sony here are pretty much just playing the Phil Spencer game to hide it. That's why I really don't see the "arrogance" as being any worse than MS. Though, yeah, the context and timing are worst. It would be more precise to say Sony are greedy than anything else.

 

[mad597]

1/3 of the posters are like quick look the other way about some topic nothing to do with the title that we can critize about something else.

Wonder what their agenda is? Lol

Actually make that half the posters lol!!

You can tell just how personally these nut job Sony fans take it when anyone dare try and tarnish the name of their precious Sony. It is a literal mental disease at this point.

 

[mad597]

He said Microsoft had no place in the current landscape, I’m not sure how you read that differently. It’s pretty self explanatory.

Sony fans going off the rails again showing their true colors. They have an issue with MS even being in the gaming industry and would prefer a one console world where Sony controlled them.

I remember a gaming industry before Sony and gaming will go on one day without Sony. Gaming is much bigger than Sony no matter how delusional their hordes of zombie fans are.

 

[Darius87]

You can tell just how personally these nut job Sony fans take it when anyone dare try and tarnish the name of their precious Sony. It is a literal mental disease at this point.

i think you over exaggerating, this whole crossplay think is so unnecessary crap, majority of ps4 users doesn't even care about crossplay, and you kind a seem hurt about fans standing up for sony, why is that bothering you? that what's happen in the first place someone tries to tarnish something, seems logical doesn it?

 

[Elenchus]

Hope that all the people in this thread, who tell us that we should accept Sony’s position because “it’s just business”, keep that same energy when MS starts using its vastly superior warchest to buy up even more studios and content— because that too will be “just business”.

 

[Iaterain]

It is a free 2 play game, you aren't losing anything. The consumers should step aside. Don't let Microsoft, Nintendo and Epic Games to use you like a tool in order to pressure the market leader.

 

[Darius87]

Hope that all the people in this thread, who tell us that we should accept Sony’s position because “it’s just business”, keep that same energy when MS starts using its vastly superior warchest to buy up even more studios and content— because that too will be “just business”.

we don't own PSN so it's not our position to decide, they can do whatever they wan't with they services and products, i really hope MS will do what you said, that's not bad thing.

 

[TheStigGT999]

so sony promoting their products makes them arrogant lol ok...

 

[Krappadizzle]

It is a free 2 play game, you aren't losing anything. The consumers should step aside. Don't let Microsoft, Nintendo and Epic Games to use you like a tool in order to pressure the market leader.

so sony promoting their products makes them arrogant lol ok...

People shouldn't surprise me, but they do. GOoOoOooo Corporate Rah Rah Rah!

 

[mad597]

so sony promoting their products makes them arrogant lol ok...

Sony locking the use of 3rd party accounts from other platforms and not allowing cross play then trying to tell us they are the best place to play makes them arrogant.

They are objectively the worst place to play. X1X and PC offer better performance and graphics while every other non Sony platform allows full crossplay with every other platform and full account cross progression.

 

[Louis Cyphre]

Lol, butt hurt much? Yes, it is the right move IMO. For me (I don't have to deal with an uneven playing experience), for them (they don't have to let competitors get freebies on their back).

As far as I'm concerned, Xbox has no place in the current landscape. Feel free to disagree, I'm not telling you what to think. If Xbox disappeared tomorrow, I wouldn't notice. I would certainly miss Nintendo and Sony though, so yes, MS has no place.

This is the typical attitude we see often, how they want to make this about MS and try very hard to deflect Sony being portrayed as the bad guy. It's obvious why the most diehard fans who buy every PlayStation have little to no respect for Microsoft. It's because they see them as the direct competition. They each fight over the same third party titles for the most part and Sony is clearly sending a message how much they rely on third party so much that they are willing to die alone on that hill fighting for the userbase they have. Which is funny considering how much flack you guys give about Microsoft's lack of 1st party and how important exclusives are to consoles.

i think you over exaggerating, this whole crossplay think is so unnecessary crap, majority of ps4 users doesn't even care about crossplay, and you kind a seem hurt about fans standing up for sony, why is that bothering you? that what's happen in the first place someone tries to tarnish something, seems logical doesn it?

First off, why are you standing up for Sony? That's pretty sad to be honest to stand up for something you need not defend. Second of all why are you here if you don't care and if nobody cares about this unnecessary crap then why is Sony telling third party they can't implement something apparently nobody cares about. It's kind of a contradiction because Sony sees there is enough interest to do it on other devices aside from consoles.

Hope that all the people in this thread, who tell us that we should accept Sony’s position because “it’s just business”, keep that same energy when MS starts using its vastly superior warchest to buy up even more studios and content— because that too will be “just business”.

Yup, every third party exclusive deal, "it's just business". EA and micro-transactions, "it's just business". NO EA Access, "it's just business". Funny how some will protect a faceless company one day but not the other.

so sony promoting their products makes them arrogant lol ok...

Promoting locking certain platforms out is not really something to brag about, especially when those decisions are being made against the developers wishes.

 

[Gavin Stevens]

You know, over the years I've seen consoles come and go, even console makers come and go. I was around for the Atari and NES. I'm an old school gamer. I've had experiences playing games, selling games at retail, and now making them.

So when I say the following, think about what I feel based on how long I've been gaming, and my experiences...

"Sony fans are by far the worst when it comes to ego".

Seriously, I've never seen anything even half as bad as I've seen some Sony fans be. The devotion to their piece of plastic is utterly insane, almost like football team level. I've seen people straight up lose friendships because they were insulted by something said against their box. Maybe its because Nintendo and Microsoft fans have both seen the highs and the very very lows... Maybe... But Sony fans are so arrogant, its actually quite sad.

On the same level, Sony themselves are utterly up their own arse at the best of times. When they are market leaders, they have this "fuck you" attitude that I just never see anywhere else. Its almost like they actually say "Bah, we are in the lead, lets put our feet up now", and just wait. This is what they did in the PS2 days. They were light years ahead in sales, so wasn't interested in anything anybody else was doing, and thus, the PS3 was born. The plus side of all this is that as time goes on, MS/Ninty will actually come back around to being better off. Ninty are very slow on the uptake of new features, but MS tend to be pretty much on the ball and quick thinkers. Remember, most of the shit you see online, is because MS was there first and invented it, or at least, moulded it into what it is today.

With regards to the Sony guys comments... It is arrogant. It just is. They don't play well with others, simple as that. Never really have. They don't see that if there was crossplay, they could quite likely have MORE people playing. Thye just see it as people playing on other consoles... Well, for it to be crossplay, you need to play on BOTH, so... Flawed argument. Never mind the flat out lie that PSN is some how better than XBL (It really isn't, not by quite a margin) or that the PSPro is a better place to play than the XBOneX (Again, not true).

Theres promoting your product, then there is Trump-level lies. Sony seem to be doing the latter a lot.

I wouldn't be at all shocked to see next gen, if the tables turn around and Sony take the number 2/3 spot. Might *sound* impossible to some, but history in the console space is full of surprises. Look at the PSOne… Wii... 360... PS4... You just don't know. But betting all your cash on one console is a fools idea.

Just bloody play the games on whatever console has them, and enjoy the damn hobby. Because otherwise you turn into... No I can't even say his name... But he posts here and we all know how damn annoying he is...

 

[Darius87]

First off, why are you standing up for Sony? That's pretty sad to be honest to stand up for something you need not defend. Second of all why are you here if you don't care and if nobody cares about this unnecessary crap then why is Sony telling third party they can't implement something apparently nobody cares about. It's kind of a contradiction because Sony sees there is enough interest to do it on other devices aside from consoles.

Is it illegal? to stand up for platform you own, or maybe should i hate it? sony does what's best for their platform, why they should add crossplay if they had already biggest userbase of all platforms? what benefit for them? to satisfy minority PS4 fortnite fans, or make it unfair by adding cheaters and different control inputs which makes non equal gameplay. the account transfer to other platform also lure players away from ps4, everything make sense from sony point of view.

 

[Hayfield]

You can tell just how personally these nut job Sony fans take it when anyone dare try and tarnish the name of their precious Sony. It is a literal mental disease at this point.

Pot meet kettle.

 

[Louis Cyphre]

Is it illegal? to stand up for platform you own, or maybe should i hate it? sony does what's best for their platform, why they should add crossplay if they had already biggest userbase of all platforms? what benefit for them? to satisfy minority PS4 fortnite fans, or make it unfair by adding cheaters and different control inputs which makes non equal gameplay. the account transfer to other platform also lure players away from ps4, everything make sense from sony point of view.

Is it illegal? Lol, you sure sound mature. Then to top it all off you talk about cheaters and different control inputs. That is more relevant to Mobile and PC, not consoles. You're a consumer, maybe you should act like it because consumers don't talk about cheaters and control inputs and then standing up to them who offer crossplay with mobile and PC but not other consoles. It's ludicrous just how loyal some of you are. Sony is basically telling you, and more importantly the developer of the game, what is the best way to play your games. Sony doesn't even have the confidence you are even able to make your own choices for other services like EA Access so it's no surprise they also don't trust you to make your own choice of who to play with online.

 

[Koala Driving a Ferrari]

That's rubbish and an unacceptable answer.

Just because the PS4 is a fantastic platform with a great (and large) player base, that doesn't mean that it should be artificially isolated from the rest of the gaming community by Sony execs. Nintendo and Xbox gamers don't suffer from leprosy. If the PS4 was -legitimately- a good enough platform to stand on it's own four rubber feet, Sony should be confident enough that gamers will naturally migrate to it on the basis of an objective appraisal by the customer base. The fact that Sony is panicking and making a decision on behalf of its customers before they even have a choice and are trying to force their "digital paying peasants" into their locked digital ecosystem, says everything you need to know.

Only a total console warrior fanboy would wish for multiplayer games to be locked to a single platform. Genuine gamers want longevity for all of the games that they love (MP or SP focused). And multiplayer games that are artificially choked to a locked player base will die sooner rather than later. That's not a good thing. On PC, I can enjoy a game of Soldier of Fortune 1 multiplayer right now. The MP maps and the Quake 2 engine combat are multiplayer perfection, for me. That game is almost 20 fucking years old. I love that game. BUT why should this multiplayer game longevity be locked to just PC gamers. Why can't console gamers enjoy that same privilege?

Are you a console gamer? Do you love games? Then what Sony is currently doing is objectively against your own personal best interests. Fact. Sony says no. You should be saying YES. Hell, you just spent some form of money on a video game. It should work in ten years time. It should work in twenty years time. Video games aren't fruit; they shouldn't artificially expire. Digital media has no expiry date.

 

[Jarbloko]

that selfish playstation is a bad sign for the future ps5.
remember ps3 anyone?

 

[Darius87]

Is it illegal? Lol, you sure sound mature. Then to top it all off you talk about cheaters and different control inputs. That is more relevant to Mobile and PC, not consoles. You're a consumer, maybe you should act like it because consumers don't talk about cheaters and control inputs and then standing up to them who offer crossplay with mobile and PC but not other consoles. It's ludicrous just how loyal some of you are.

Well i'm more mature than you'll ever be, if it's different then it's revelant, special on these types of games like fortnite, i guess sony would allow crossplay with xbox if fortnite be just avarage game, but it's not!

Sony is basically telling you, and more importantly the developer of the game, what is the best way to play your games. Sony doesn't even have the confidence you are even able to make your own choices for other services like EA Access so it's no surprise they also don't trust you to make your own choice of who to play with online.

Wait what? you think sony should encourage, players to play on other services, platforms? of course they won't confidence me to choose EA Access, other paltforms, i don't get your logic? you're bad businessman my friend.

 

[mad597]

You know, over the years I've seen consoles come and go, even console makers come and go. I was around for the Atari and NES. I'm an old school gamer. I've had experiences playing games, selling games at retail, and now making them.

So when I say the following, think about what I feel based on how long I've been gaming, and my experiences...

"Sony fans are by far the worst when it comes to ego".

Seriously, I've never seen anything even half as bad as I've seen some Sony fans be. The devotion to their piece of plastic is utterly insane, almost like football team level. I've seen people straight up lose friendships because they were insulted by something said against their box. Maybe its because Nintendo and Microsoft fans have both seen the highs and the very very lows... Maybe... But Sony fans are so arrogant, its actually quite sad.

On the same level, Sony themselves are utterly up their own arse at the best of times. When they are market leaders, they have this "fuck you" attitude that I just never see anywhere else. Its almost like they actually say "Bah, we are in the lead, lets put our feet up now", and just wait. This is what they did in the PS2 days. They were light years ahead in sales, so wasn't interested in anything anybody else was doing, and thus, the PS3 was born. The plus side of all this is that as time goes on, MS/Ninty will actually come back around to being better off. Ninty are very slow on the uptake of new features, but MS tend to be pretty much on the ball and quick thinkers. Remember, most of the shit you see online, is because MS was there first and invented it, or at least, moulded it into what it is today.

With regards to the Sony guys comments... It is arrogant. It just is. They don't play well with others, simple as that. Never really have. They don't see that if there was crossplay, they could quite likely have MORE people playing. Thye just see it as people playing on other consoles... Well, for it to be crossplay, you need to play on BOTH, so... Flawed argument. Never mind the flat out lie that PSN is some how better than XBL (It really isn't, not by quite a margin) or that the PSPro is a better place to play than the XBOneX (Again, not true).

Theres promoting your product, then there is Trump-level lies. Sony seem to be doing the latter a lot.

I wouldn't be at all shocked to see next gen, if the tables turn around and Sony take the number 2/3 spot. Might *sound* impossible to some, but history in the console space is full of surprises. Look at the PSOne… Wii... 360... PS4... You just don't know. But betting all your cash on one console is a fools idea.

Just bloody play the games on whatever console has them, and enjoy the damn hobby. Because otherwise you turn into... No I can't even say his name... But he posts here and we all know how damn annoying he is...

Couldn't have said it better great post. Sony fans display a mental attachment to Sony that fans of other consoles simply don't display. When MS or Nintendo screw up much more often their fans hold them to the fire cause they want them to change for the better of gamers. When Sony screws up Sony fans take it personally and defend it to no end. Sony fans have an unhealthy personal attachment to Sony and it screws up their entire perception of the gaming industry.

Maybe its the age of typical Sony fans, as us older gamers know a gaming industry without Sony and have perspective on how Sony has acted compared to other console makers. Maybe its Sony marketing tactics that tend to attract and draw out people with these mental issues where they over personalize their love for a Sony box.
Whatever it is Sony fans operate on a different level of crazed insanity toward their preferred game console that's for sure.

 

[Mochilador]

What a shitty excuse.

 

[The_Mike]

that selfish playstation is a bad sign for the future ps5.
remember ps3 anyone?

One would think so yes, but PlayStation fans are very loyal. Sony can treat them like garbage and to their eyes the platform is still the best thing in the world.

 

[Basoes]

One would think so yes, but PlayStation fans are very loyal. Sony can treat them like garbage and to their eyes the platform is still the best thing in the world.

kinda like anyone who is a die-hard fan of any brand

Microsoft,Apple,Nintendo,Bad Dragon

 

[mad597]

kinda like anyone who is a die-hard fan of any brand

Microsoft,Apple,Nintendo,Bad Dragon

When a platform holder is so blatantly anti consumer only Sony gets such a huge pass from their user base. While other platform holders have devoted fans Sony fans are a special kind of insane about issues like this. Other platform holders get called out from all sides when they pull this kind of shit only Sony has this kind of insane defense force from their rabid fans.

 

[DeepEnigma]

When a platform holder is so blatantly anti consumer only Sony gets such a huge pass from their user base. While other platform holders have devoted fans Sony fans are a special kind of insane about issues like this. Other platform holders get called out from all sides when they pull this kind of shit only Sony has this kind of insane defense force from their rabid fans.

My god dude. Do you even listen to yourself talk?

Dis you:

 

[Louis Cyphre]

Well i'm more mature than you'll ever be, if it's different then it's revelant, special on these types of games like fortnite, i guess sony would allow crossplay with xbox if fortnite be just avarage game, but it's not!



Wait what? you think sony should encourage, players to play on other services, platforms? of course they won't confidence me to choose EA Access, other paltforms, i don't get your logic? you're bad businessman my friend.

So to summarize, I know you are what am I. That's the intellect I'm dealing with.

This is the monster Sony is creating, this shit attitude that Microsoft and its owners are so despicable. So much so that we need to stand up for the company. How fucking sad this is what this hobby has become.

 

[The_Mike]

kinda like anyone who is a die-hard fan of any brand

Microsoft,Apple,Nintendo,Bad Dragon

No disagreement there sir. They are just more noticeable here cus there’s three times as many players.

And even so. Many left Xbox this gen cus MS fucked it over. Would it have been Sony then not much would have changed. But Sony has been there for longer than Xbox so maybe that’s why the brand loyalty is stronger.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

As expected the “Sony should be ashamed for not helping their competitors” brigade is out in full force.


Unfortunately for Sony their own comments did far more harm when their best bet is to leave the issue alone.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

Couldn't have said it better great post. Sony fans display a mental attachment to Sony that fans of other consoles simply don't display. When MS or Nintendo screw up much more often their fans hold them to the fire cause they want them to change for the better of gamers. When Sony screws up Sony fans take it personally and defend it to no end. Sony fans have an unhealthy personal attachment to Sony and it screws up their entire perception of the gaming industry.

Maybe its the age of typical Sony fans, as us older gamers know a gaming industry without Sony and have perspective on how Sony has acted compared to other console makers. Maybe its Sony marketing tactics that tend to attract and draw out people with these mental issues where they over personalize their love for a Sony box.
Whatever it is Sony fans operate on a different level of crazed insanity toward their preferred game console that's for sure.

Sony fanboys are no better or no worse than any other fanboys. Fanboys are all fanatics. The problem is the entitlement gamers who think that Sony is somehow required to help their competitors when crossplay benefits everybody but Sony. Some of us are able to think outside the twitter/SJW internet world and see things as a business, which is what Sony, MS and Nintendo are. The focus of MS, Sony and Nintendo is to have as many people on their platforms as possible so that they can get people into their gaming pool and I will never blame any company for not making decisions that would benefit a competitor at potentially their own expense. I would call gamers ridiculous if they started asking MS to release Halo/GoW/Forza on the PS4. Or Nintendo the same if they demanded Mario, SMB or Zelda come to Sony's platform.

Am I against crossplay? Not at all. If Sony gives in and allows it, good for them. But there is a reason adults are in charge at Sony and not gamers.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

that selfish playstation is a bad sign for the future ps5.
remember ps3 anyone?

The same PS3 that wanted cross play with the 360 and Xbox said nahhh we are crushing you and don't need you?

Yeah I remember those days and it seems Sony does as well.

https://kotaku.com/5813740/i-saw-the-playstation-3-wired-to-play-against-an-xbox-360-but-you-wont

 

[Kagero]

#teamevilsony hahahaha! He ain't wrong, but that don't mean it's right.

 

[Louis Cyphre]

Sony fanboys are no better or no worse than any other fanboys. Fanboys are all fanatics. The problem is the entitlement gamers who think that Sony is somehow required to help their competitors when crossplay benefits everybody but Sony. Some of us are able to think outside the twitter/SJW internet world and see things as a business, which is what Sony, MS and Nintendo are. The focus of MS, Sony and Nintendo is to have as many people on their platforms as possible so that they can get people into their gaming pool and I will never blame any company for not making decisions that would benefit a competitor at potentially their own expense. I would call gamers ridiculous if they started asking MS to release Halo/GoW/Forza on the PS4. Or Nintendo the same if they demanded Mario, SMB or Zelda come to Sony's platform.

Am I against crossplay? Not at all. If Sony gives in and allows it, good for them. But there is a reason adults are in charge at Sony and not gamers.

Your response is disengenuous. To bring up first party titles makes it very clear you're not here to actually discuss anything. As for how does this help Sony? The same way it helps them with mobile, tablets and the PC. It gives them an even greater pool of players. Not all games have full communities. Titanfall 2 would have been a good example.

 

[FacelessSamurai]

This thread is typical GAF shitposting, Sonygaf Is in full force here as always and it’s pointless for anyone to try arguing as people will always come up with stupid arguments trying to defend how crossplay is a bad thing (btw, it isn’t). Call it fanboyism, mental illness, stupidity, etc. Won’t change the fact they are wrong and that there isn’t any proof they can bring to the table to prove otherwise as this isn’t even for debate, anyone sane will tell you crossplay is better for everyone. It’s just arguing for the sake of it.

Sony sees it as a good business move. It will surely come back to backfire on them long term. You give incentives for people to try to stay in your ecosystem, you don’t try forcing/bullying them, which is what Sony is doing right now.

 

[Dr. Claus]

As I had stated in previous threads dedicated to this topic - I just don't see the issue. Both Microsoft and Nintendo had greatly bungled their recent consoles (Wii U/Xbox One) and are trying to find ways to boost people to come to their new/future platforms. Both of which had done exactly what Sony has stated for years when they were the "big dogs" in previous generations.

I never really cared to play with Xbox people on my Playstation or vice versa in any previous generation, and this is certainly not anything that has changed for me personally - but I do see why people want it. I think the bigger issue is that Sony is currently "controlling" Fortnite accounts on the Playstation system, preventing them from being played on other platforms.

 

[phil_t98]

Sony fanboys are no better or no worse than any other fanboys. Fanboys are all fanatics. The problem is the entitlement gamers who think that Sony is somehow required to help their competitors when crossplay benefits everybody but Sony. Some of us are able to think outside the twitter/SJW internet world and see things as a business, which is what Sony, MS and Nintendo are. The focus of MS, Sony and Nintendo is to have as many people on their platforms as possible so that they can get people into their gaming pool and I will never blame any company for not making decisions that would benefit a competitor at potentially their own expense. I would call gamers ridiculous if they started asking MS to release Halo/GoW/Forza on the PS4. Or Nintendo the same if they demanded Mario, SMB or Zelda come to Sony's platform.

Am I against crossplay? Not at all. If Sony gives in and allows it, good for them. But there is a reason adults are in charge at Sony and not gamers.

How does it help sony? Well it does but sony’s motto is for thr gamers and as people have pointed out games with a smaller player base on sonys system will benifit. Games who like to play minecraft on Sonys system will benifit by a bigger player base and newer updates which arnt available on playstation at the moment

 

[Toe-Knee]

My mistake if thats the case .. it seems to be changing al the time ...

https://variety.com/2018/gaming/news/fortnite-ps4-switch-sony-response-1202846030/

“I was a tester on PC whos (sic) finished every season and spent hundreds of dollars on the game but nope no Switch play for me since I played once on a PS4,” said one person on Reddit.

Yeah you can't move to another console but between ps4/mobile /pc it's fine. Or at least was the last time I played. Makes sense though with those platforms being allowed to play together.

 

[mad597]

As expected the “Sony should be ashamed for not helping their competitors” brigade is out in full force.


Unfortunately for Sony their own comments did far more harm when their best bet is to leave the issue alone.

How is locking the Epic accounts of actual PSN players helping their competitors?

Sony is actually harming and punishing their own user base.

 

[MDSLKTR]

Sony is actually harming and punishing their own user base and some of these deluded idiots are arguing in favor of it like brain dead zombies.

Stop harming me Sony!

 

[DeepEnigma]

How is locking the Epic accounts of actual PSN players helping their competitors?

Sony is actually harming and punishing their own user base and some of these deluded idiots are arguing in favor of it like brain dead zombies.

Show me on your Xbox where Sony hurt you?

 

[LegendOfKage]

The same PS3 that wanted cross play with the 360 and Xbox said nahhh we are crushing you and don't need you?

Yeah I remember those days and it seems Sony does as well.

https://kotaku.com/5813740/i-saw-the-playstation-3-wired-to-play-against-an-xbox-360-but-you-wont

As cool as this sneak peek was, Trion can't let the finished Xbox 360 game connect to the PS3. "Microsoft won't let Sony players play against them," Rodberg said, before suggesting we change the topic to something less sensitive.

I checked with Microsoft to be sure Rodberg wasn't maybe just mis-hearing them. Maybe Microsoft wanted to break the barrier too? Here's a Microsoft spokesperson saying "no," while promoting how awesome the Xbox 360's online service is: "Xbox Live delivers the best entertainment experience unmatched by anyone else, with 35 million actively engaged members.

We have a high level of expectation for our game developers to ensure that all Live experiences remain top notch. Because we can't guarantee this level of quality, or control the player experience on other consoles or gaming networks, we currently do not open our network to games that allow this cross-over capability."

It wouldn't matter much, I guess, if Sony was into this thing while Microsoft wasn't. It would matters as much as if DC Comics wanted Superman to punch Spider-Man again while Marvel Comics was holding out. I checked with Sony's public relations team, but they didn't come up with an official statement yet about how their company feels about the possibility of cross-console gaming.

That pretty much says it all right there. The best selling platform will always have more to lose than it will to gain in this situation.

 

[Mokus]

Show me on your Xbox where Sony hurt you?

It's funny that he's throwing left and right accusations how other are mindless fanatics, meanwhile when you check his posts in the past, it's mostly about showing he is crazy devoted to Microsoft.

 

[xellos2099alpha]

I have nothing in the race as I don't play Fortnite and I own ps4 pro, xbox one x and switch. If Sony want to lock out crossplay... fine, it is their console. However the big issue that sony fan boy does not talk about is the locking of fortnite account. Should this shit be even legal. I would think over the reset is even bigger pool of sony fanboy.

 

[Xaero Gravity]

This thread was great for populating my ignore list. I had no idea we had so many console warring fanboys still left here.

 

[FranXico]

That pretty much says it all right there. The best selling platform will always have more to lose than it will to gain in this situation.

But... but... Microsoft have changed! Now they are virtuous and care more about consumers than profit! They are the good guys now, and will forever take good care of us all!

Phony $ony are the only greedy console manufacturer!

/s

 

[oagboghi2]

Funny, my xbox live is usually a much more stable experience than ps+ dissconnecting randomly for hours at a time for me...

At this point its not even so much that i want crossplay, but ive spent like $40 on the game on the xbox version and it bugs the fuck out me i cant cross over my account but i can on the switch, a nintendo system of all things...

where do you guys live where PSN is unworkable hours at a time and Xbox live is perfect. They are basically the same thing

 

[DeepEnigma]

where do you guys live where PSN is unworkable hours at a time and Xbox live is perfect. They are basically the same thing

Redmond, duh!

/s

 

[oagboghi2]

You can tell just how personally these nut job Sony fans take it when anyone dare try and tarnish the name of their precious Sony. It is a literal mental disease at this point.

Seriously, you are embarrassing yourself in this thread. Stop it, for your own benefit.

 

[LegendOfKage]

This thread was great for populating my ignore list. I had no idea we had so many console warring fanboys still left here.

Yeah, it's pretty sad.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

But... but... Microsoft have changed! Now they are virtuous and care more about consumers than profit! They are the good guys now, and will forever take good care of us all!

Phony $ony are the only greedy console manufacturer!

/s

I guess getting whacked at the register can give anyone a change of heart.

 

[FacelessSamurai]

But... but... Microsoft have changed! Now they are virtuous and care more about consumers than profit! They are the good guys now, and will forever take good care of us all!

Phony $ony are the only greedy console manufacturer!

/s

If you had any idea what you are talking about you’d realize what you are saying g is freakin stupid. Microsoft as a company has a philosophy of offering their services to any platform. It’s the reason why all of their apps are now on Windows/Mac/iOS/Android and why their games are play anywhere as we as crossplay with anyone. Same reason why they want their streaming solution in the future to work on other platforms, as having their services everywhere is more important to them than selling a plastic box. It’s a company wide philosophy, and that includes Xbox.

Every platform is now open, except for Sony’s. It’s not only about Fortnite, it’s about every other game, including the most popular game in the world (Minecraft) being behind on Sony’s Platform because of this stupidity. Same reason why the elder scrolls card game won’t be on PS4, because of Sony’s stubbornness to force people in their ecosystem instead of givin them incentives, like everyone else is doing.

You guys can keep being stupid all you want, when even corporations are talking shit against Sony you know there’s something wrong going on. You guys can’t hide this shit forever. I know gaf is sonyland so majority here are Sony fanboys, it doesn’t make this shit any more true.

 

[it_wasn't_me]

Sony fans going off the rails again showing their true colors. They have an issue with MS even being in the gaming industry and would prefer a one console world where Sony controlled them.

I remember a gaming industry before Sony and gaming will go on one day without Sony. Gaming is much bigger than Sony no matter how delusional their hordes of zombie fans are.

Said by Xbox fan. It seems you showing your true colors too.