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[Musky_Cheese]

The issue is that this thread gets bumped a lot - that doesn't mean it is 'hot' or whatever the forum equivalent is these days. It just means it has activity in the slowest part of the forum. However, for some of us who check in every now and again it does provide a level of amusement. I think I've only posted in here once myself iirc.

The problem was the way everything went down. The contingent of these that people reacted most vociferously and aggressively. They left in flames and sneered at those who refused to jump to kneejerk allegations. Almost a year on, has any era member got water tight proof of the shit they fling out? Rapist, molester, paedophile etc. They are the lowest of the low. The internet equivalent of mobs that in the past have pointed and screamed 'witch' or 'commie' in order to distract from their own terrible personalities. They went to form their own Utopia, a place where the evil and intolerant were gated off. And it's been a fucking disaster. From the moderation to the twitter campaigns, to the various identity politics, the shutting down of dissenting opinion etc.

And yes, it may reflect poorly that there is such a thread to reflect on the very worst parts of their community, but it's more unsavoury when people sign up here and try to argue that era is a good place really and we're the alt-right, nazi scum etc. It doesn't matter that there are a lot of active posters over there when the most prominent part of your site that leaks out is so horrifically out of touch.

And you know what, GAF is slower. It's catch 22. Slow enough to follow much easier but you want a little more activity, but month by month we're getting there. New posters, threads being generally more engaging. If anything the real community effort is happening here by those who have stood up and said 'this shit is wrong. We need to be better.' There's a real sense of people pulling together and trying to mould NuGAF into a place to host discussions that are quickly being shut down everywhere else. In reality, posters that have been driven wide and far to other sites need to stand together at some point. I'm not talking about the more extreme parts of certain communities (like doxxing etc.) but are we going to let something like era reflect what people think and associate with genuine and passionate gamers? And that goes for those who actually post on era too. We do need more support and users, the site is more open now with the exception of extreme hate speech or just cumulative trolling which gets squashed. So you might be exposed to less replies that are head nodding but actual conflicting opinions or points of view.

And like you lot, I have my suspicions about certain posters here being here just to flag for era or be overly controversial but I like the way the community at large just gets on with it. They act like adults, the days of crying or assembling dogpiles seem to be over - although mods will need to watch that in case it creeps back in. People are discussing the games again and not some female reviewer being called a 'woman' and how we're all 'part of the problem'.

It must kill them that they never took GAF down. It must kill them the site is picking up again. It must kill them that it's shaping up to be everything they failed to deliver. And that is to everyone's credit on this site that genuinely wants and has the opportunity to create the NuGAF.

 

[JordanN]

It must kill them that they never took GAF down. It must kill them the site is picking up again. It must kill them that it's shaping up to be everything they failed to deliver. And that is to everyone's credit on this site that genuinely wants and has the opportunity to create the NuGAF.

Honestly, I think GAF is like Bugs Bunny and ERA is like Elmer Fudd.
We put the finger in ERA's gun and watch them blowup.
Sometimes we don't have to do anything at all. They do a good job embarrassing themselves on their own.

 

[Yoshi]

It's not ambiguous, it's redundant. Man and boy are words that include male in their meanings. It's like saying wet water.

Since we have the distinction of genders in addition to the distinction of sexes and those distinctions are not the same, it is not redundant. If someone says "X is a man", then X may be a male specimen of the species human or a female one. I used "male man" to describe myself to make it unambiguous when it comes to my sex, rather than just saying "man", which could also mean I am a female human who identifies as a man.

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

It's not ambiguous, it's redundant. Man and boy are words that include male in their meanings. It's like saying wet water.

Hey, don't make fun of my wet water. I make thousands off the Boomers:

 

[royox]

Since we have the distinction of genders in addition to the distinction of sexes and those distinctions are not the same, it is not redundant. If someone says "X is a man", then X may be a male specimen of the species human or a female one. I used "male man" to describe myself to make it unambiguous when it comes to my sex, rather than just saying "man", which could also mean I am a female human who identifies as a man.

I'm not talking about identity stuff, I'm talking about gramar and definitions. The word "male" is included in the definition of man and boy therefore saying male man is LITERALLY REDUNDANT.
Discuss it with your dictionary not with me.

boy
bɔɪ/
noun

1. 1.
   a male child or youth.

man
man/
noun

1. 1.
   an adult human male.

 

[bigedole]

Since we have the distinction of genders in addition to the distinction of sexes and those distinctions are not the same, it is not redundant. If someone says "X is a man", then X may be a male specimen of the species human or a female one. I used "male man" to describe myself to make it unambiguous when it comes to my sex, rather than just saying "man", which could also mean I am a female human who identifies as a man.

You have to understand how your post alone illustrates how ridiculous this whole argument over compelled speech is, right? This relatively insignificant portion of society wants to force people to speak in gendered riddles to avoid any possibility of causing offense through misunderstanding. It's not enough that people can just use the right pronouns when they're made aware of them, as nearly every decent human being in civilized parts of the world would do. No, we have to literally change humanities approach to language built upon thousands of years of understanding and development.

It's ridiculous. Also, it feels like a significant percentage of my posts lately is just to call things ridiculous. That feels ridiculous too. Everything is ridiculous.

 

[royox]

It's not enough that people can just use the right pronouns when they're made aware of them, as nearly every decent human being in civilized parts of the world would do.

It's not. They had a whole thread talking about how "people was using the correct pronouns just because they were playing along and not because they believed in that 100% to the core of their beings".

Like you said, ridiculous.

 

[Yoshi]

I'm not talking about identity stuff, I'm talking about gramar and definitions. The word "male" is included in the definition of man and boy therefore saying male man is LITERALLY REDUNDANT.
Discuss it with your dictionary not with me.

boy
bɔɪ/
noun

1. 1.
   a male child or youth.

man
man/
noun

1. 1.
   an adult human male.

I dislike the prefix cis for this usage, because from my understanding it only really makes sense as the antagonist of trans and does not really express congruence. Male man with the first describing the sex, the second the gender appears more attractive to me. What would you suggest? To use cis in spite of me reluctance?

 

[prag16]

Since we have the distinction of genders in addition to the distinction of sexes and those distinctions are not the same, it is not redundant. If someone says "X is a man", then X may be a male specimen of the species human or a female one. I used "male man" to describe myself to make it unambiguous when it comes to my sex, rather than just saying "man", which could also mean I am a female human who identifies as a man.

You apparently spent way too much time on gaf's previous incarnation, and gaf's purple bastard stepchild. Hopefully the resulting damage can be repaired.

(I'm half joking and don't mean to be insulting, but your post was fall-out-of-my-chair level ridiculous imo... not necessarily the literal specifics of the statement but the fact that this is something people actually care this much about now to the point that you feel the need to... speak in riddles in this way... as another poster put it.)

 

[tkscz]

Since we have the distinction of genders in addition to the distinction of sexes and those distinctions are not the same, it is not redundant. If someone says "X is a man", then X may be a male specimen of the species human or a female one. I used "male man" to describe myself to make it unambiguous when it comes to my sex, rather than just saying "man", which could also mean I am a female human who identifies as a man.

But you are not a human, you are a dinosaur.

 

[Redneckerz]

But you are not a human, you are a dinosaur.

A German dinosaur, at that.

Also don't call women females, ''Tell us how you really feel'' (In relation to this post that got ban. I am making this reference because the ''Tell us how you really feel'' part is completely hollow and utter bait. Then again it is done by an Elite Little Helper whose issues far outweigh the original intent of the site - Talking about games.)

 

[Papa]

Yoshi you’re in too deep mate

 

[Ivellios]

This is why we usually operate based off of the Banbot, which provides an unbiased look into the staff policies. All it does is gather data and present these stats to the end-user. - http://resetera.kiwifarms.net/

So if this thread is way too much effort, then what is that bot then?


Being critical is different than speaking ill. This is precisely why i cave it a generic nomenclature and not refer to specific members. I don't want to shame names, therefore by using a generic term, most people know who i can be referring to, which is usually a group.

If former GAFFers/now ERA-goers only look at this thread to conclude the forum and its users as a whole, do you think that they were geniunely interested to return in the first place? GAF is much more than just this thread. Admittely, its a popular one, but it provides a canvas from which people and banned ERA users can paint a picture, getting more detailed day by day.


And that is what happens here. You can see that in the increased activity of threads, the new Politics sub-forum, and more.
PS: When you quote me, keep the ''[QUOTE'' bit. Else a notification will not occur and ive noticed that you obmit this part in your quote.

Sorry for the quote mistake, i was typing from my phone and this happened.

Well i did not know there was a bot for this, but i think you misunderstood my question in the first place. What i meant is that the absurd things that happen there are well know to everyone who reads some of the threads on the forum, so i kinda did not understand your answer sorry.

My point was precisely this, is there even the need to do a critical analysis of a forum you dont even like? I just dont see anything useful coming from that imo. That also goes back to my first question, we all know what happens there, that some of the posts are ridiculous and the bannings even worse, why the need to being critical about every single detail of it? That place is not Neogaf forum anymore... Then again maybe people enjoy doing that so no problem with that.

Again i think you misunderstood me, i meant someone who is not from Neogaf or ERA but just know a little about both, not some former gaf/actual era member. So someone who just happened to decide to see what neogaf is all about, and browsing the forum said person see that this place is great and then he bumps into this thread, with 67 page of talking about ERA, i think this causes a bad impression. At least it is what i felt when i first saw this thread being created, along with some other members who also said similar things in the beggining of the thread.

The new politics subsection was one of the best ideias, it sucked to go to offtopic just to see half of the forum with useless (for me anyway) Trump/american politics. Now i can go to offtopic to see the really interesting stuff

Since we have the distinction of genders in addition to the distinction of sexes and those distinctions are not the same, it is not redundant. If someone says "X is a man", then X may be a male specimen of the species human or a female one. I used "male man" to describe myself to make it unambiguous when it comes to my sex, rather than just saying "man", which could also mean I am a female human who identifies as a man.

Sorry but no one will see it that way, it just does not make any sense whatsoever to anyone who does not have knowledge of how trans people view themselves (vast majority).

 

[royox]

I dislike the prefix cis for this usage, because from my understanding it only really makes sense as the antagonist of trans and does not really express congruence. Male man with the first describing the sex, the second the gender appears more attractive to me. What would you suggest? To use cis in spite of me reluctance?

You can use just MAN as everybody that speaks English will understand you

"But my social justice warriorism won't allow me to use it".

Ok, if you don't want to say "cis" just use "not trans" lol

 

[Cybrwzrd]

You can use just MAN as everybody that speaks English will understand you

"But my social justice warriorism won't allow me to use it".

Ok, if you don't want to say "cis" just use "not trans" lol

I hate the word cis in general except when used in regards to molecules. There doesn't need to be a word that describes the standard.

Anyways, gender is based on what your chromosomes are, with few exceptions due to genetic anomalies and birth defects. Yes, you can be a feminine male, or a masculine female, but you are still whatever gender you were born with. Dress however you want, but don't demand that normal people treat you like how you want them to in all situations.

 

[royox]

I hate the word cis in general except when used in regards to molecules. There doesn't need to be a word that describes the standard.

Anyways, gender is based on what your chromosomes are, with few exceptions due to genetic anomalies and birth defects. Yes, you can be a feminine male, or a masculine female, but you are still whatever gender you were born with. Dress however you want, but don't demand that normal people treat you like how you want them to in all situations.

Oh boy how you dared to use words like standard or normal? XD

 

[Cybrwzrd]

Oh boy how you dared to use words like standard or normal? XD

That is what the word means. Conforming to a standard, usual, typical or expected. I'd argue that sexuality is more complicated and that nearly everyone is at least partly bisexual, but for human reproduction, the standard is heterosexuality and our base instincts for reproduction drive the vast majority (well over 90%, right?) of us to end up in a heterosexual relationship.

 

[Acerac]

That stuff is all just cringe-worthy fetish shit though, it's not supposed to be taken seriously, and the only person who would is likely not very intelligent.

I think feminine qualities in Men and the acceptance of Transsexuals has just gotten more recognition within the last few years, and so you're just seeing a lot more people open to exploring these qualities of themselves. Everyone has various degrees of masculine and feminine qualities.

My theory is the ones who don't have it together are screeching the loudest (isn't that always the case?), while everyone else moves on with their lives. Exploring feminine qualities really doesn't have to be anything more than a small subsection of your vast and varied life. If you take anything to the extreme of course it's going to come out hurting you.

There's a reason I didn't want to bring it up, it seems absolutely mad. That said, positive reinforcement combined with isolation can change people in shocking ways. Convincing somebody that hormones may help is not that crazy of a possibility.

Believe I'm crazy. Just note the isolationist behaviors on the forum and the constant claims that all others are the enemy. It took me years to reach this conclusion, I promise you this is nothing I jumped to after a day or two.

 

[DeepEnigma]

The most epic moment in that thread was when they started saying straight males should be REEDUCATED to be sexually attracted to trans-women. Incredible

I said this before... they sure love to suck the steam off each other's shit.

 

[DeepEnigma]

I hate the word cis in general except when used in regards to molecules. There doesn't need to be a word that describes the standard.

Anyways, gender is based on what your chromosomes are, with few exceptions due to genetic anomalies and birth defects. Yes, you can be a feminine male, or a masculine female, but you are still whatever gender you were born with. Dress however you want, but don't demand that normal people treat you like how you want them to in all situations.

I find it ironic how they deplatform straight men down to simple non-sentience language of a molecular structure, but gosh forbid you say female because it can be "dehumanizing" due to animals also able to be labeled female. Even though female is used as a scientific/medical term just as the less common CIS one. Hypocritical mental gymnastics of Orwellian newspeak wordplay insanity (now that was a jumble).

At this point, animals > than most of humanity in general, but especially their mental diarrhea since they (animals) work in harmony with nature, and do not concern themselves with the segregating further disconnecting (from harmony) IdPol language.

 

[Ribi]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/12542775/

Holy shit lmao this guy definitely thought he was going to get the normal mob mentally era treatment supporting him and i did too. Unfortunately for him the title of the thread didn't trigger and of them into the thread only the gamer side people and he got roasted.

 

[RokkanStoned]

I hate the word cis in general except when used in regards to molecules. There doesn't need to be a word that describes the standard.

Anyways, gender is based on what your chromosomes are, with few exceptions due to genetic anomalies and birth defects. Yes, you can be a feminine male, or a masculine female, but you are still whatever gender you were born with. Dress however you want, but don't demand that normal people treat you like how you want them to in all situations.

The thing I see is that most of this shouldn't matter. If you pass, then the superficial concepts of what we perceive as male and female looking are active and there really shouldn't be a problem, unless you're getting physical. If you don't pass, then if you get politely corrected, most of us should be able to politely oblige, though obviously not forced to oblige. There's people and to make their life better, being polite should be pretty easy. Sex is what matters in the end, as "gender" (In Norwegian there's just one word "kjønn" and if you need to make a distinction you'll write "biological" or "social") is merely superficial expectations and there's inherent experiences biologically to being male or female. Some of the expectations are connected to biology as well. That said, in most public cases the perceived one will be active and it's usually best to be polite in public and not create unnecessary conflict.

End point is that I have no idea why people have made a big deal of this on either side. Was it the ridiculous bathroom bill that started it? And how did "you're a bigot for not wanting to have sex with a trans male/female gain traction? And also why are we discussing this here? Taking up so much space that there's better to have a respectful discussion in Politics. It's an issue where one should be considerate, that's what I feel at least. There are arguments in regards to both sides to how one should perceive the transgender issue, but in the end a sense of being polite and considerate is a virtue as long as someone isn't being authoritarian.

 

[Kacho]

Yoshi seems like an alright guy but yeah, that comment is wild lol

 

[Cybrwzrd]

Hey, don't make fun of my wet water. I make thousands off the Boomers:

These boomers need to be educated on the dangers of Dihydrogen Monoxide though. It kills thousands of people per year and causes billions of dollars in damage.

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

These boomers need to be educated on the dangers of Dihydrogen Monoxide though. It kills thousands of people per year and causes billions of dollars in damage.

And when you spray it into the atmosphere, it turns God's natural sunlight into gay rainbows.

 

[Cybrwzrd]

And when you spray it into the atmosphere, it turns God's natural sunlight into gay rainbows.

Trace amounts are found in nearly all tumors and it is highly reactive to essential minerals we require to live, like Sodium and Potassium. I've even heard that people put it in their marijuana pipes to make getting high easier.

 

[TrainedRage]

You guys wanna hear a funny joke?

ResetEra.

 

[Enygger_Tzu]

^ I thought you said funny joke.

 

[Redneckerz]

Yoshi seems like an alright guy but yeah, that comment is wild lol

A part of me died when i read that. Literally, never in my entire life have i ever heard someone get introduced as cis. I only knew of this when ERA started using it as something important to denote.

Makes you think, an average Joe like me never having heard of it. Means that most others never heard of it aswell. I reckon more people have heard of the word transgender than the word cisgender.

You guys wanna hear a funny joke?

ResetEra.

Still waiting on the joke though. ERA is merely the line without the punch.

 

[Acerac]

Was gonna make this an edit but eventually just seemed better by itself.

Depressed people are easy to influence, doubly so if they are dealing with hormones that they never have dealt with before, puberty is infamous for the emotional swings it causes in people after all. Given a constant string of positive reinforcement when more feminine attributes are adopted and reminders that nobody accepts the individuals like the group, I don't see it being unreasonable that one could be encouraged to try hormones, especially with constant reinforcement from the only group who matters at that point. At that point if one is convinced that the group's words are the only ones that count it does not seem unreasonable that this situation could be exacerbated when the individual is on hormones, pushing them further and further away from those who know and have loved them as they are told that these people can not be trusted.

Note that this also happened to my best friend's relative, and we are both comically liberal when it comes to this sort of situation. I can not highlight enough that I REALLY do want to be wrong here.

Let me reinforce that I acknowledge that trans people are real, and I respect their right to make their bodies coincide with how they feel. I'm just saying that there are those out there who wish to exploit others and after everything I've seen and all I've read, I believe wholeheartedly that some cis individuals are taken advantage of in this way. The fact that so many stories about these occurrences line up so precisely is too much of a coincidence. Having my love life shattered by this then being outcast from ERA has given me incentive to look in to it, ok?

*Chuckles*

Anyways look how the damn site is run. They are very big on insisting all others are the enemy and they refuse evidence if they feel it can be emotionally harmful. They sure have a very strict, very enforced notion of being kind to others, don't they? With some groups being more equal than others...

I invite people to call me insane... just please tell me why I'm wrong if you do. Please somebody explain to me why this doesn't all add up.

It makes me sick because these people are hurting trans individuals who do need help. If this exploded in the media I can only imagine how it would be taken. People decry it as transphobia for suggesting the subject, when it feels like they are just using trans individuals as a shield for their actions.

 

[JORMBO]

A part of me died when i read that. Literally, never in my entire life have i ever heard someone get introduced as cis. I only knew of this when ERA started using it as something important to denote.

Makes you think, an average Joe like me never having heard of it. Means that most others never heard of it aswell. I reckon more people have heard of the word transgender than the word cisgender.


Still waiting on the joke though. ERA is merely the line without the punch.

Ive also never heard anyone use the word “cis” to describe someone in real life. Outside of ERA I have never heard it used.

 

[royox]

Yoshi seems like an alright guy but yeah, that comment is wild lol

An alright MALE GUY you mean

 

[Redneckerz]

Ive also never heard anyone use the word “cis” to describe someone in real life. Outside of ERA I have never heard it used.

Then again if i have to believe the Opel commercial in my home country, Germans never make jokes either.

So i am kind of in dubio here.

But yeah, Cis. I should not disregard that this might be common around trans people and the like IRL.

 

[Kacho]

An alright MALE GUY you mean

 

[SirKicksalot]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/12542775/

Holy shit lmao this guy definitely thought he was going to get the normal mob mentally era treatment supporting him and i did too. Unfortunately for him the title of the thread didn't trigger and of them into the thread only the gamer side people and he got roasted.

Wow. Imagine all that effort going towards something productive. I'm always astonished by such novel-length, multiple quotes posts.

 

[Windom Earle]

Since we have the distinction of genders in addition to the distinction of sexes and those distinctions are not the same, it is not redundant. If someone says "X is a man", then X may be a male specimen of the species human or a female one. I used "male man" to describe myself to make it unambiguous when it comes to my sex, rather than just saying "man", which could also mean I am a female human who identifies as a man.

Good to see that some things don't change. I check back on this thread after a long time and still see you post all this asinine shit. Good job Yoshi, I hope your wife's son is proud of you. Don't forget your balls on the way out.

 

[Keylime]

Folks... I know there's going to be a wild range of conversations taking place in here... but regardless of what's going on, please keep the commentary about the subject matter, not the person delivering the message.

Report posts that you think are going over the line, but don't take it upon yourself to write up a hit-piece on someone because they upset you with something they said.

...

And now back to your regularly scheduled programming!

 

[Boss Mog]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ma...ing-breakfast-with-woman.67918/#post-12534255
Looks like telling the truth about the "religion of peace" on Era will get you instantly permabanned.
Sana is obviously even more the best woman on Earth now

It's not ambiguous, it's redundant.

Oh, I'm suing you for copyright infringement by the way .

It's not ambiguous, it's redundant.

 

[prag16]

Folks... I know there's going to be a wild range of conversations taking place in here... but regardless of what's going on, please keep the commentary about the subject matter, not the person delivering the message.

Report posts that you think are going over the line, but don't take it upon yourself to write up a hit-piece on someone because they upset you with something they said.

...

And now back to your regularly scheduled programming!

I'll admit I was an early participant in the dog pile. I tried not to be mean spirited about it, though some of the later posts ended up that way.

Yoshi is a good male cis that means well.

 

[JordanN]

So Resetera is now perming people for questioning diversity.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ci...bly-wont-be-white.67156/page-42#post-12506128

It's moments like these that make me scared of the future. We're barely given a choice about whether multiculturalism is a good thing or not.

Also, this post was funny.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ci...bly-wont-be-white.67156/page-42#post-12517747

How many times have we heard Trump be called a "white supremacist" without punishment?

 

[prag16]

So Resetera is now perming people for questioning diversity.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ci...bly-wont-be-white.67156/page-42#post-12506128

It's moments like these that make me scared of the future. We're barely given a choice about whether multiculturalism is a good thing or not.

Also, this post was funny.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ci...bly-wont-be-white.67156/page-42#post-12517747

How many times have we heard Trump be called a "white supremacist" without punishment?

Rules for thee but not for me.

 

[Ivellios]

So Resetera is now perming people for questioning diversity.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ci...bly-wont-be-white.67156/page-42#post-12506128

It's moments like these that make me scared of the future. We're barely given a choice about whether multiculturalism is a good thing or not.

Also, this post was funny.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ci...bly-wont-be-white.67156/page-42#post-12517747

How many times have we heard Trump be called a "white supremacist" without punishment?

Why is low post count one of the reasons for a ban? This makes no sense

 

[Yoshi]

Why is low post count one of the reasons for a ban? This makes no sense

I think the rationale is that someone who posts offensive stuff after only having posted few postings is not intending to participate in a good spirit but is just there to cause trouble. However, considering there is also "accumulated offenses" or something similar, it is clear that both, many and few postings, are troublesome.

 

[royox]

So Resetera is now perming people for questioning diversity.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ci...bly-wont-be-white.67156/page-42#post-12506128

It's moments like these that make me scared of the future. We're barely given a choice about whether multiculturalism is a good thing or not.

Also, this post was funny.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ci...bly-wont-be-white.67156/page-42#post-12517747

How many times have we heard Trump be called a "white supremacist" without punishment?

Banned: "false equivalence"

That's what you would get there for asking that

 

[Michele]

I don't want to derail the thread, but while it's a week old, I'm surprised this has not been brought up. Even 'verified' members aren't free of attacks. Apparentely, Serebii gets attacked for being against hacking:
The dislikes are probably those from Resetera, and users are commenting that while they dislike the youtuber, he unfortunately makes a great point. The site really needs to step down the drugs.

 

[Redneckerz]

Sorry for the quote mistake, i was typing from my phone and this happened.

Well i did not know there was a bot for this, but i think you misunderstood my question in the first place. What i meant is that the absurd things that happen there are well know to everyone who reads some of the threads on the forum, so i kinda did not understand your answer sorry.

They aren't well known to everyone. That's the thing. We have users coming here being legit unaware of it, unaware that a ban bot exists, and even users who challenge and attack this very site for covering on it. Its a case of The truth hurts more often than not as the users in this later bracket base their views on GAF October 2017 and nothing more. They don't care about nor see the improvements made on this site since.

My point was precisely this, is there even the need to do a critical analysis of a forum you dont even like?

Yes. It is to provide an explanation for the warped views ushered by the aforementioned groups. And clearly there is a need, since it sees multiple people posting about it, after all this is a popular thread. So the need is there.

I just dont see anything useful coming from that imo.

Well, the Banbot was made because of it so there you go.

That also goes back to my first question, we all know what happens there, that some of the posts are ridiculous and the bannings even worse, why the need to being critical about every single detail of it?

Not everybody knows, that's the point.

That place is not Neogaf forum anymore... Then again maybe people enjoy doing that so no problem with that.

I would not say that given you postulated the same question a few times now.

Again i think you misunderstood me, i meant someone who is not from Neogaf or ERA but just know a little about both, not some former gaf/actual era member. So someone who just happened to decide to see what neogaf is all about, and browsing the forum said person see that this place is great and then he bumps into this thread, with 67 page of talking about ERA, i think this causes a bad impression.

Which is why there is only one catch-all thread about it and you don't see it anywhere else. Look, i didn't make the thread, EviLore did and he did so with a reason and it seems multiple users coming back to talk about the other site, all in one contained thread. I would suggest bringing it up with him and let him hear your views.

At least it is what i felt when i first saw this thread being created, along with some other members who also said similar things in the beggining of the thread.

Which users are you referring to, specifically?

I'll admit I was an early participant in the dog pile. I tried not to be mean spirited about it, though some of the later posts ended up that way.

Yoshi is a good male cis that means well.

Would you postulate that he is a .... Cister?

I think the rationale is that someone who posts offensive stuff after only having posted few postings is not intending to participate in a good spirit but is just there to cause trouble. However, considering there is also "accumulated offenses" or something similar, it is clear that both, many and few postings, are troublesome.

Depends on what you consider offensive.

In my humble opinion, The Names and the Little Helpers have a warped sense of what to consider offensive and what not.

 

[JimmyJones]

The ban messages are so fucking condescending it makes me sick! "History of infractions" Shut the hell up!

 

[Kacho]

The ban messages are so fucking condescending it makes me sick! "History of infractions" Shut the hell up!

“History of infractions” and “Actioned” are two of the best memes to come out of Era so far

 

[tkscz]

“History of infractions” and “Actioned” are two of the best memes to come out of Era so far

Actioned?

 

[Kacho]

Actioned?

I don’t have any examples immediately available but if a thread goes off the rails a mod will step in and say something like “there have been numerous reports so the thread has been locked while we review and determine which posts must be actioned.”