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Are you boycotting RDR2 because of the misrepresented 100 hours 'controversy'?
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You do realize the developers agreed to and negotiated their salaries before becoming employees? And paid pretty damn well for the work they do as well.
And what's with this splitting the profits bs. None of the developers invested any money into the game. They invest their time and get paid nicely for it. The company puts up the hundreds of millions of dollars it takes to make a game of this scope. Of course the company gets all the profits. That's how business works ffs.
sol_bad
Member
I mean they could quit, but if "crunch" time is as rampant in the industry as it sound, there is basically no point in quitting unless you want to change industries.
EDMIX
Member
The deep lolz....no.
I buy games for fun, no other reasons. They want to talk about policy and labor rights, ok nothing wrong with that.....
Annnnnnd has nothing to do with the game.
How many of you are buying games SOLELY because the team is really nice to their employees EVEN if the game sucks?
EDMIX
Member
lol agreed, i mean we have people not buying games based on "Developer said mean thing to me on twitter"... I have to question why some of theses folks even PLAY GAMES if they are buying it based on "feelings" vs the actual game itself.
Lionel Richie
Member
LOL I'm boycotting it for my second Black Panther blu-ray.
EDMIX
Member
lol remember Battlefront?
Be like "bOycoTtiNg bAtTlefRonT, DAY wiLl seA"
Game goes on to move 15 million units breaking all sorts of records LOL!
GenericUser
Member
Of course not, I'm not a childish idiot.
Pretty much this. I hate all the freaking whining about people being taken advantage of as if they can't decide for themselves where they want to work, I assume most people either get a job here to bolster their resume or to try to get a senior high paying job.
Jesus, when I was 18 I got a job digging foundations for homes and holes 20+ feet deep to run sewer lines navigating around gas and electrical lines where my life was in actual danger every day.
People put a lot of work and effort into this game and it looks like it was everyone from top to bottom so yeah I'm going to support it and the work they did.
The working conditions should be decided by the free market and what the employees chose to do not outrage culture or people looking to become activists on behalf of others.
EDMIX
Member
AGREED 100%. MOST gaming jobs are contracted. They very much know what they are getting into before hand.
MiguelItUp
Member
So, boycott a project in an attempt to keep it from making money, and if successful (of course not), that hardworking team loses their jobs. Sounds like a great plan. Honestly, as much as I'd hate to admit it, this is not uncommon in the industry at all. Especially when it's crunch time. I've been there multiple times. 
That being said, I hope this does change some day. I mean, I don't think I've ever heard anyone say they've enjoyed crunching. But being for a situation that would cause people to lose their jobs (and they want to work there, or they wouldn't be there) isn't the way to go.
That being said, I hope this does change some day. I mean, I don't think I've ever heard anyone say they've enjoyed crunching. But being for a situation that would cause people to lose their jobs (and they want to work there, or they wouldn't be there) isn't the way to go.
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Heimdall_Xtreme
Jim Ryan Fanclub's #1 Member
This plan should be do it to EA to be honest.
EDMIX
Member
? The plan is stupid based on someone buying or not buying a game based on something irrelevant to the game.
This plan is dumb regardless of which publisher you switch it for. Many stated the same thing about Battlefront and it didn't stop it from moving record units. Neckbeards seem to always think that they = the entire world.....
Bullet Club
Member
No boycott from me. I can't wait to play the game.
Norse
Member
Good ol crunch time. I remember them fondly. Even though I may have been at the office for over 30+ hours straight multiple times, red bull, donuts, bagels, etc,etc were made redilly available for free. Even got a 45 min nap in on my office sofa. Sure some of the other people there may have been upset, but the vast majority of us were soaking up the experience and felt pretty damn good about it all because we were doing it together. I always felt that the ones complaining either had a spouse that was upset, had young children at home, or they just worked there for a paycheck.
Heimdall_Xtreme
Jim Ryan Fanclub's #1 Member
I know about that, but EA has damage such much the gaming industry, they deserve to be punished, well only the people who want add Lootbox and Season pass.
DavidGzz
Member
Dude, I got banned too(2 weeks). I won't say why because I don't want to derail this thread but man, that forum.... I bet you the poll would show the opposite that it does here. Anything for the drama and god save you if you don't agree with the hivemind.
EDMIX
Member
https://www.game-debate.com/news/25125/battlefield-v-will-have-no-premium-pass-or-loot-boxes
https://www.pcgamer.com/anthem-will-have-no-loot-boxes-and-no-ability-to-pay-for-power/
So you sound no different then the dude that made the Kirby Killed Nintendo thread.
You can copy / paste this same argument about every publisher in gaming crying about EVERYTHING ANYONE DOES. ie
"I know that, but Nintendo has damaged such much the gaming industry" cites phone app for voice chat
"I know that, but Sony has damaged such much the gaming industry" cites can't change PSN name
"I know that, but MS has damaged such much the gaming industry" cites Scalebound canned and multiple studios closed down
"I know that, but CDPR has damaged such much the gaming industry" cites Witcher 3 downgrade lie and twitter battles
and you can go on and on and on and on. BUY GAMES FOR FUN, ,you don't see me buying games cause the company is "nice", I'm buying games cause the damn game might be actually FUN, you know.....the reason to play something? Your 2 top reasons don't even apply to this publisher in terms of their up coming properties.....soooooo its seriously just as dumb as the "Kirby Killed Nintendo" or "Splatoon failed" ie I dislike a publisher so here is a series of lies about the publishers to pass off as FACT....
Did you think cause you stated EA, that would change it or? Dumb when someone said it about Nintendo, still dumb when folks are crying over Rockstar STILL DUMB regardless of publisher. When have you bought a game that you knew was bad, but cause you liked how nice the publisher was? lol
but by all means...bOycoTtiNg lol
Also, would the developers even want you to boycott the game? They put their blood, sweat and tears into this game only to see it selling badly given there was an actual large scale boycott, which there won't be. Also, I think they'd like to continue being employed which won't happen if the game sells badly.
Now if they were doing underhanded tactics like bringing in foreign devs and taking their passports and making them work for peon wages, then I'd understand... but a lot of people understand the conditions of the game industry which is why I personally stay far, far away... but many love making games so much they are willing to endure.
Now if they were doing underhanded tactics like bringing in foreign devs and taking their passports and making them work for peon wages, then I'd understand... but a lot of people understand the conditions of the game industry which is why I personally stay far, far away... but many love making games so much they are willing to endure.
AV
We ain't outta here in ten minutes, we won't need no rocket to fly through space
No, how ridiculous.
The crunch is not new and exclusive to Rockstar games.
An ex-R* developer who worked on GTA V already came out and said a boycott would undermine and insult the developers who you're trying to protect.
Not to mention if you wanted to boycott poor working conditions, you'd better stop buying from Amazon completely.
Oh, also, boycotts on this scale do not work because you are completely insignificant compared to the vast number of people who don't care and will still buy it. Remember Modern Warfare 2? Ha.
Do you need any more reasons? If it's to make yourself feel better, you'd better take a long, hard look at where most of the shit you buy comes from.
The crunch is not new and exclusive to Rockstar games.
An ex-R* developer who worked on GTA V already came out and said a boycott would undermine and insult the developers who you're trying to protect.
Not to mention if you wanted to boycott poor working conditions, you'd better stop buying from Amazon completely.
Oh, also, boycotts on this scale do not work because you are completely insignificant compared to the vast number of people who don't care and will still buy it. Remember Modern Warfare 2? Ha.
Do you need any more reasons? If it's to make yourself feel better, you'd better take a long, hard look at where most of the shit you buy comes from.
LostDonkey
Member
Im not boycotting it for the reason in this thread but I wont be buying it or playing it.
Doesnt interest me in the least.
Doesnt interest me in the least.
MightySquirrel
Banned
The only people boycotting the game are PC gamers who have to wait 2 years before they can play it
PC only gamer dusting of ps4pro for this.
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haxan7
Volunteered as Tribute
No, not antisemitism. You are dealing with people who are using a system of morality to achieve their own ends, which in this case means punishing someone who disagrees with them.
michaelius
Banned
I wasn't buying it in first place.
I got bored by GTA IV to death so I'm not interested in next parts or western reskin.
I got bored by GTA IV to death so I'm not interested in next parts or western reskin.
KyanMehwulfe
Member
nah gonna upgrade my pre-order instead. either good for rockstar for creating a work environment where certain people on their team love their job and game and the salary and bonus compensation so much that they want to work so much. or props to the Houser got getting more efficiency out of their team for the same expenses and returning my value back to me as a shareholder.
either way i don't give a fuck if some employees didn't like it tho. quit. organize internally. unionize externally. start a social media movement. if their fucking job to be activist on it tho, not mine. i'm not playing consumer activist for folks with good probably 70-120K salary jobs, month long vacation bonuses are kidding me. i probably buy a hundred other products with a more desperate environmental or social need for activism than people with good tech jobs and strong bonus compensation lol
and even if was going to support them, it would be through those numerous other activities i just said... organization moving forward. so, not only did they slave away at something, let's show the big bad corporation by making that something less valuable =p that'll reaaaaaaally help the employees, in an industry where bonuses tied to metacritic or sales are not unheard of =p
either way i don't give a fuck if some employees didn't like it tho. quit. organize internally. unionize externally. start a social media movement. if their fucking job to be activist on it tho, not mine. i'm not playing consumer activist for folks with good probably 70-120K salary jobs, month long vacation bonuses are kidding me. i probably buy a hundred other products with a more desperate environmental or social need for activism than people with good tech jobs and strong bonus compensation lol
and even if was going to support them, it would be through those numerous other activities i just said... organization moving forward. so, not only did they slave away at something, let's show the big bad corporation by making that something less valuable =p that'll reaaaaaaally help the employees, in an industry where bonuses tied to metacritic or sales are not unheard of =p
RoyBrown7777
Member
I put undecided. What are these people being paid, what's in their contracts?
I'll get it so I have something to trade shitty ass creed odd in for.
I'll get it so I have something to trade shitty ass creed odd in for.
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lol at the boycott! Might as well boycott movies, trailers and tv shows too. I work in the VFX industry and I've had my share of long crazy overtime, even all-nighters. We know what we're up against and in the end seeing that fat paycheck is worth it. Sucks if you have a family though.
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Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
I hadn't even noticed this dude until tonight xDHow are you guys still falling for Apoc threads in <current month>?
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Rekki-Maru
Banned
pc master wait edition, early 2020.
GTR R35_Supra RZ
Banned
Not even that
, they'll be first in line at midnight with camping tents at GS and all that ish.
Noboru Wataya
Banned
No, I don’t think twice about their working conditions. They aren’t protesting about it, they obviously have talent and the ability to change job if they don’t like it, and it doesn’t influence me when purchasing entertainment products.
My life is problem enough to worry about, I can be empathetic towards others, of course. But boycott a game over a single line that may or may not be taken out of context? Of course not, I’m not that woke.
My life is problem enough to worry about, I can be empathetic towards others, of course. But boycott a game over a single line that may or may not be taken out of context? Of course not, I’m not that woke.
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