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[Corrik]

What was said and by who after the video cuts off? I hear the other customer saying something, but can't tell what exactly he is saying.

 

[LegendOfKage]

I'm glad traffic is steadily increasing here and keep an eye on it and see if it ever increases in the ways that interest me (i.e. super active OTs and community threads for more than the latest big western AAA game) as I do like the more even moderation here and don't mind just ignoring the members that post shit that offends/triggers me.

I've gotten the impression that people aren't banned from era for breaking the rules, as much as they're banned from breaking ideology.

I think I could write a list of 50 entries, consisting of celebrities, game developers, you tubers, video games, politicians, game journalists, etc, and ask that you write a paragraph of the things you like about them, and another of the things you don't like about them. Not dangerous extremist positions, but your genuine thoughts about these people, even if you have to dig deep to find something to like or dislike about them.

And depending on the list entry, posting one paragraph or the other in any given topic about that subject would likely get you banned or suspended from Era. And I could probably tell you which "for or against" it would be that would find your membership at risk. And you could take 10 entries off that list for being just too controversial, and I could add another 10, and it would still happen.

And that's not a discussion. That's forced ideological conformity. But that's also not criticizing the community at era. I'm sure there are loads of cool people there. It's just that if everyone there shared their full unfiltered opinions all the time, I don't think they would be around for long. But you could share any of those for or against opinions on this forum now, and that's the real difference between the two.

 

[SoulUnison]

This whole thread is amazing, but please take a look at this specific post made completely unironically.

I haven't even listened to the Louis CK bit yet - maybe he really does say something truly offensive - but this atmosphere where people get prejudged to ridiculous degrees based on the random stuff they like seems to be snowballing. Like, there's flat out just certain pop-culture you're not allowed to accidentally admit you like a part of, now.

 

[Saruhashi]

And on non-ResetERA news, we have this article from VentureBeat by Jeff Grubb, overgeneralizing and mischaracterizing the consumers as a rabid mob. He makes quite a bit of misinformed takes:

• He makes a leaping assumption that people were angry over Bethesda's canvas bag fiasco were only in it for the outrage.
• He defends Jessica Price, claiming that her responses to Deroir weren't even "rude" and that she was a victim of "the mob". In reality, her behavior was widely denounced by both men and women when she attacked Deroir for being misogynist.
• He claims that the Diablo fanbase fabricated false reasons for their outrage against Diablo Immortal. The most hilarious part? He criticizes the fanbase for accusing Diablo Immortal to be a reskin of a Chinese mobile game. He says it is not a reskin even though he wrote an article in November explaining how Diablo Immortal is indeed one.

It's pretty interesting.

I do often wonder with a lot of videogame media outlets if this is a tactic to allow them some sort of influence over developers.

So they go to bat for Blizzard, Bethesda or whoever in these arguments with the community but with how they treat Kingdom Come or FarCry 5 they also send out the message "we could just as easily go after you".

Developers and publishers must be aware at this point that if you appease the mob then they will defend you from "angry" customers. However, if you fail to pander to them, or outright defy them, then they will either trash or not cover your game at all.

You can see it in other media too. The Last Jedi springs to mind where the movie was defended by mainstream media who went as far as to even claim that critics of the movie were just Russian bots. That movie did have a lot of politics shoehorned in and it feels like the message from critics is "keep doing what you are doing and we will defend you".

There is no doubt in my mind that the likes of Polygon, Kotaku, Waypoint etc would LOVE to be able to influence at least some of the content in videogames. They all but admitted that they wanted FarCry 5 to be a hatchet job on Right Wing America and Trump.

I mean, check out this shite: https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/art...f-war-but-reserve-the-right-to-change-my-mind

For me I see a subtle threat. You're doing well, giving us what we wanted, but we will be going through your game with a fine toothed comb. If we happen to find something that "changes our mind" then all that praise could disappear. So be careful.

"the absence of Kratos’ wife underscores the game’s broader avoidance of a series with a history of violent misogyny"
"people started wondering if the game reckoned with its deeply sexualized and angry history with women"

It's like they are even offering the devs a hint about the kind of things they might just decide to look for in a game. It would be a real shame if that 94 on Metacritic became an 84... right?

People act as though BioShock Infinite tricked them. I don't buy it. It always looked to me like the game was loved by critics right up until they realized that they could get more clicks and more kudos if they pointed out all the ways that the game was problematic. Could you imagine if BioShock Infinite was releasing today?

I think the reason this "gamers are trash" mantra persists among gaming media is actually in service of defending developers who are willing to pander to their particular preferences.

We didn't see widespread defense of Kingdom Come when a certain subset of gamers were flipping out over that. When the main guy developing The Last Night came under attack there was no defense and no criticism of unreasonable gamers. When some idiots were doxxing employees of CD Projekt Red we never saw these outlets calling out the particular toxic forum that was responsible.

The message is clear, I think.

 

[Enygger_Tzu]

The message is clear, I think.

Gaming media is the enemy of games and gamers and should be disregarded and laughed off of to irrelevance.

 

[Deleted member 713885]

This whole thread is amazing, but please take a look at this specific post made completely unironically.

I haven't even listened to the Louis CK bit yet - maybe he really does say something truly offensive - but this atmosphere where people get prejudged to ridiculous degrees based on the random stuff they like seems to be snowballing. Like, there's flat out just certain pop-culture you're not allowed to accidentally admit you like a part of, now.

WTF is this shit?!
I am so bewildered by the stupidity that forum has...it makes me angry lol

Yes, this is the humor I want instead of what Louie said!!

HAHA SECOND PUBERTY!! PICKLES CAUSE IM ON DA HORMONES!

 

[JORMBO]

This whole thread is amazing, but please take a look at this specific post made completely unironically.

I haven't even listened to the Louis CK bit yet - maybe he really does say something truly offensive - but this atmosphere where people get prejudged to ridiculous degrees based on the random stuff they like seems to be snowballing. Like, there's flat out just certain pop-culture you're not allowed to accidentally admit you like a part of, now.

Comedian doing his act. No laughing allowed!

 

[nicoga3000]

I was just coming to post about how insane it is to be banned for saying you enjoyed a comedian's bit. I should be shocked and surprised, but that's par for the course there at this point.

 

[Saruhashi]

This whole thread is amazing, but please take a look at this specific post made completely unironically.

I haven't even listened to the Louis CK bit yet - maybe he really does say something truly offensive - but this atmosphere where people get prejudged to ridiculous degrees based on the random stuff they like seems to be snowballing. Like, there's flat out just certain pop-culture you're not allowed to accidentally admit you like a part of, now.

Sometimes it's like they don't understand why people like Louis CK won't just lie down and take a beating.

The dude hopefully has enough money that he doesn't need to care about offending anyone anyway but if he's got this massive group of people who were trying to hound him out of his career then why wouldn't he come back with content that will piss them off?

Even if he comes back now and totally panders to Trump supporters and right wing people? Good. I hope he does. He SHOULD.
I'm not a fan of his but I laughed listening to the clip knowing that the things he is saying will piss off certain people.

These clowns seem incredulous that he hasn't just taken his punishment and moved away to live in a cave somewhere.

I wonder what kind of bubble these folks grew up in. How can you not understand that sometimes when you attack someone they are going to fight back?

 

[Mochilador]

This whole thread is amazing, but please take a look at this specific post made completely unironically.

I haven't even listened to the Louis CK bit yet - maybe he really does say something truly offensive - but this atmosphere where people get prejudged to ridiculous degrees based on the random stuff they like seems to be snowballing. Like, there's flat out just certain pop-culture you're not allowed to accidentally admit you like a part of, now.

Holy shit, that thread is funny and scary at the same time.
People are being banned for laughing.

 

[Deleted member 752119]

I've gotten the impression that people aren't banned from era for breaking the rules, as much as they're banned from breaking ideology.

I think I could write a list of 50 entries, consisting of celebrities, game developers, you tubers, video games, politicians, game journalists, etc, and ask that you write a paragraph of the things you like about them, and another of the things you don't like about them. Not dangerous extremist positions, but your genuine thoughts about these people, even if you have to dig deep to find something to like or dislike about them.

And depending on the list entry, posting one paragraph or the other in any given topic about that subject would likely get you banned or suspended from Era. And I could probably tell you which "for or against" it would be that would find your membership at risk. And you could take 10 entries off that list for being just too controversial, and I could add another 10, and it would still happen.

And that's not a discussion. That's forced ideological conformity. But that's also not criticizing the community at era. I'm sure there are loads of cool people there. It's just that if everyone there shared their full unfiltered opinions all the time, I don't think they would be around for long. But you could share any of those for or against opinions on this forum now, and that's the real difference between the two.

100% true. It just doesn’t directly affect me as I have no interest in having debates online anymore. I’m just on forums for the news aggregation and shooting the shit about the games I’m playing, movies I’m watch etc. these days. They have the traffic in those areas so they get my time for now, while I keep an eye on those things here from time to time to see how things change.

 

[TrainedRage]

I wonder if ResetEra would even argue against them being idealogues that ban people for ' wrong think'?
How can you call yourselves progressives that tolerate different lifestyles and viewpoints if all you do is ban people who think different things than you do?
Its kinda fun watching them literally behave like the SS, desperately trying to honeypot their own users into perma bans for saying one wrong word.
Yeah, quite the 'community' you have there ERA what a model of respect and culture.
Im not even a little surprised at all the 'i'm depressed and want to kill myself' threads they get.

 

[Dr. Claus]

I wonder if ResetEra would even argue against them being idealogues that ban people for ' wrong think'?
How can you call yourselves progressives that tolerate different lifestyles and viewpoints if all you do is ban people who think different things than you do.
Its kinda fun watching them literally behave like the SS.
How do they interact in real life?

They justify it by claiming those people are nazis/sexists/transphobes/racists/etc. They are the enemy and not worth tolerating a different lifestyle, because they believe those lifestyles are actively harming people. Years of mental coddling has weakened them to any sort of reality. Hence why we have infants screaming at someone for wearing a trump shirt/hat.

 

[DragoonKain]

Comedy is one of the few areas of escape we have where you can talk about shit without being judged, poke fun of shit that otherwise wouldn’t be cool, and make people feel uncomfortable. All in the name of trying to bring some laughter and escape from the grind and stresses of real life. The minute you take away that avenue, the minute everything falls to shit.

The good news is it will never be taken away. Crazies can go after comedy and comedians all they want, but if you listen to the Louis CK clip, people were cracking up at his act. The people have all the power and if he didn’t get any people at his shows or have any fans, no one would hire him. But as long as people like him he can work as long as he damn well pleases and joke about whatever he pleases.

Comedy will never ever die, politically incorrect comics will never go away, and dark humor will never go away. Trying to snuff it out is a lost cause.

There is nothing in the universe you can’t joke about. If your intent is to make people laugh and get their mind off all the fucked up shit in their lives for a short time, then joke about anything. Intent is everything. Joke about cancer, the holocaust, transgender people, murder, whatever. Comedians have and will until the end of time. And if they brought some joy and laughter to peoples lives then then that’s what it’s all about. And if you offend people, so be it. Comedy is supposed to make us uncomfortable, that’s the point of comedy. Talk about stuff we aren’t used to talking or joking about. It’s what makes comedy so damn great and important.

 

[Deleted member 713885]

Redneckerz JordanN Blam

You guys know who this dude is?
You guys are fostering a Nazi movement!!

 

[Enygger_Tzu]

Who is that soyboy and why is his mommy allowing him to check the net unsupervised?

 

[Redneckerz]

Redneckerz JordanN Blam

You guys know who this dude is?
You guys are fostering a Nazi movement!!

Hah! I actually know that person, or well, atleast the name. I think it was from some drama but eh.

Oh wait, its That Nanashrew? I have to check my logs for that then. I don't remember that the salt dispensed was of good enough quality to preserve, but apparently it was for you Jason? In any case i apologize. Oh i remember, i actually still have those logs/screens about that stuff. You want to see those?


Jason, since i know you read here (Apparently not that great though!) you have some things incorrect. Also i wish you would have just addressed me in PM and you would find a civilized discussion would prosper. Just like on ERA (And i am not being satricial here!).

What's that? The guy who made up those code words is voicing support for ERA? That's right! Unlike your series of tweets that miss details, i am well aware that not everyone is a crapshooter on ERA and a lot of people, including people on the staff itself, are just fine men, lasses, and trans people. (Hey, i support these folks 100%!)

The reason i made those code words Jason is to differentiate the actual crappy people and the (majority) that aren't. It makes it far easier for me to refer to people when i talk about Little Helpers or The Names.

Secondly, I got banned over all other ERA related discords... literally 4 months after i was permabanned, and with no additional reasoning anyway. Just opened Discord and they were gone. Seems a bit delayed and odd, don't you think?

Lastly, you might want to ask yourself this: If the majority of the gaming community (And not just Kiwi/Bore/Voat/4chan/MisterMetokur/etc) are in the wrong regarding the status and image of ERA, don't you think that this is a little strange? Because that would suggest an orchestrated conspiracy that spans multiple sites, multiple outlets and somehow we would all be controlling this through... how exactly?

Or...

Is it because ERA's negative imagery is generated from within, thus the sole cause for the surrounding dislike among most of the gaming community is actually caused by those who you refer to as ''code words?''*

I should not have to remind you that conspiracies are unhealthy for the soul and mind. Thus, assuming proper intent, the bolded is far more likely than what you are suggesting to your tweets. Be honest.

If you want names, ill happily provide them. The only thing i would ask of you, since you seem to take an personal interest in me: Please contact me privately, either here, or hey, even on Discord. Same username too.*

Spoiler: *

Hell, i have a Twitter handle too which isn't associated with GAF. Ill happily contact you if you aren't making the attempt.

You will find i am hardly as bad as you portray me out to be, that is, if you are willing to have a proper talk about this.

Because, if else, it makes your definition of me (Loser) rather off: Instead of addressing me directly, you launched a series of tweets (that apparently saw no likes, so your reach is what, nill?) behind my back and i know for a fine fact i never even addressed you in my forum novelles about ERA.

Lets both not be losers and please reach out to me, okay? Ill give you a week.

PS: You do know its not nice to refer to a Discord discussion where i held a civil tone, you know? Looking back at the convo, its pretty obvious that the sharks were released before one could even make a point. Whose problem is that, you think? Again, be honest.

@PKM can you send this over to Jason?

 

[Dr. Claus]

All I see is a child so desperate for attention that they outright lie, slander, and use baseless accusations to prove some nonexistent point. Best not give the kiddo any.

 

[Mochilador]

Who is that guy?

 

[Deleted member 713885]

Who is that guy?

Dont know. I saw the images linked on Kiwi and brought them over so Redneckerz JordanN and Blam could take a look.

Seems they are from Nov. anyway, kinda old and have zero responses.
His twitter, and Facebook (which isnt hard to find) are lonely islands of no friends or responses anyway.
He seems to be a NEET (twitter mentions medication to continue his "disability") with a Nintendo hardon. Classic shut-in autist type with an obsession for Nintendo...we all the know the type.

Like I said...

 

[Yoshi]

He seems to be a NEET (twitter mentions medication to continue his "disability") with a Nintendo hardon. Classic shut-in autist type with an obsession for Nintendo...we all the know the type.

What is this? Do we really need such aggressive targeted attacks against disabled people?

 

[EviLore]

What is this? Do we really need such aggressive targeted attacks against disabled people?

Fuck off, Nazi!*

*I have declared more Underprivileged Points than you, therefore defending yourself from my hostile, unwarranted, unsubstantiated comments above would be an "aggressive targeted attack" and "punching down" by your logic. Now, prostrate yourself and apologize, Nazi.


^That's what this is.

 

[Clear]

Never forget kids, psychopathy is only bad once they start racking up bodycounts.

Other than that complete lack of empathy they are just everyday regular folks. That neurodivergence even makes them ideally suited to positions where being impersonal and ruthless is advantageous.

They are rare, like unicorns, and should be treasured.


*This sarcastic post was brought to you by someone who believes that mental state offers mitigation, but rarely absolution for antisocial attitudes and behaviours.

 

[Shmunter]

Redneckerz JordanN Blam

You guys know who this dude is?
You guys are fostering a Nazi movement!!

For normal people (present company) all this reads like some kind of a twisted fantasy. But to this lost soul it undoubtedly rings true. One thing to remember is that these misguided individuals redefine the meanings of words such as Hate, Nazi, alt-right, etc.

If you aren’t far left, you are alt-right. If you don’t disavow certain personality then you are part of the problem and encourage ‘Hate’. If you actively push back against the insanity of identity politics you are a Nazi.

This thread’s purpose is to remind us of the hypocrisy out there, while simultaneously providing light entertainment.

While many of these types are genuinely hateful people that hide behind self invented righteousness to bully others; there are many more that are simply indoctrinated into this cult like mindset due to poor judgement, inability for critical thinking, or lonely types wanting to belong. Being the new year, my heart goes out to the unwitting, may you find the true path one day.

 

[Yoshi]

Fuck off, Nazi!*

*I have declared more Underprivileged Points than you, therefore defending yourself from my hostile, unwarranted, unsubstantiated comments above would be an "aggressive targeted attack" and "punching down" by your logic. Now, prostrate yourself and apologize, Nazi.


^That's what this is.

I'm fine with responding negatively or even aggressively towards someone who happens to have a disability. To attack the fact that the person is disabled (as in the quote) is a very different thing though and in pretty bad taste.

By the way, I am pretty sure I never used the term "punching down", for a very good reason: I do not think it is a good idea to apply strict hierarchies on humans based on arbitrary criteria such as collections of privileges. It is a view that distracts from actual arguments and makes it personal in a non-constructive way. Attacking people for having disabilities has nothing to do with that, it's of bad taste, without adding anything to the argument.

 

[EviLore]

I'm fine with responding negatively or even aggressively towards someone who happens to have a disability. To attack the fact that the person is disabled (as in the quote) is a very different thing though and in pretty bad taste.

By the way, I am pretty sure I never used the term "punching down", for a very good reason: I do not think it is a good idea to apply strict hierarchies on humans based on arbitrary criteria such as collections of privileges. It is a view that distracts from actual arguments and makes it personal in a non-constructive way. Attacking people for having disabilities has nothing to do with that, it's of bad taste, without adding anything to the argument.

Which disability?

 

[Yoshi]

Which disability?

How do I know? The person appears to be a NEET and the poster above alleges it is because of autism. I am not going to stalk the Twitter person to find out which disability, my issue is not that the person has a disability, but the fact that the person is being attacked for having one.

 

[Shmunter]

How do I know? The person appears to be a NEET and the poster above alleges it is because of autism. I am not going to stalk the Twitter person to find out which disability, my issue is not that the person has a disability, but the fact that the person is being attacked for having one.

Are you sure? Seems the person is being attacked for nonsense comments.

Clearly there may be an underlying issue causing such behaviour and therefore they can be let off the hook and not be held any account.

 

[Ivellios]

How do I know? The person appears to be a NEET and the poster above alleges it is because of autism. I am not going to stalk the Twitter person to find out which disability, my issue is not that the person has a disability, but the fact that the person is being attacked for having one.

I agree with you, just because he said these things on Twitter does justify making personal offenses against a person disability

Honestly sometimes i think people here go too far, there is no need for that

 

[fatty]

This whole thread is amazing, but please take a look at this specific post made completely unironically.

I haven't even listened to the Louis CK bit yet - maybe he really does say something truly offensive - but this atmosphere where people get prejudged to ridiculous degrees based on the random stuff they like seems to be snowballing. Like, there's flat out just certain pop-culture you're not allowed to accidentally admit you like a part of, now.

I don't care for Louis CK but I like to visit these types of threads for the moderation enjoyment.

I like to view and read the posts as if Emeril Legasse is moderating them: *comes across long thoughtful response questioning the OP's claim*...doesn't matter..."BAM!" or "BAN!"

Just toss in a little salt:

• Inflammatory generalizations. History of similar infractions.

A little pepper:

• Arguing in bad faith. Downplaying "insert term here"

And top it off with a little EVOO to KICK IT UP A NOTCH!:

• False equivalencies. Junior phase account

"BAN! BAN! BAN!!"​

Place it in the oven and let it cook for a day or two:

• User Banned (Duration Pending)

And it is cooked thoroughly:

"PERMANENT BAN!!"​

 

[captainraincoat]

Redneckerz JordanN Blam

You guys know who this dude is?
You guys are fostering a Nazi movement!!

Oh wow....internet definition of sitting there with your thumbs in your ears.

If he was on the discord’s and has not seen the shenanigans that go on around user targeting and bans I’d be very surprised but I think he is just trying to vasolene over it

As for kiwifams...I don’t think anyone agrees with the way they go about things but they have provided a pretty good an unbiased summary of events as they pretty much hate both places....I mean they have admins on there that basically support doxing of users and recruit others to help...we wouldn’t like places that do that ehh??

And lastly as for this thread being a recruiting home..I don’t think it is...i personally think the thread has ran its course as it’s not covering any new ground but I don’t think people should not know the treachery and shit that went on and the lies that were spread and continued to be said about here.

Pretty much every page we have returning users surprised by reee and then taking a look around and rejoining conversations and threads....if anything reee has been helping recruitment...keep it up boys/girls/??

 

[mekes]

I got a wanted ban in the Louie thread on era. Good riddance to my account on that toxic forum. And wow at the Twitter user posted above...

 

[Redneckerz]

All I see is a child so desperate for attention that they outright lie, slander, and use baseless accusations to prove some nonexistent point. Best not give the kiddo any.

Oh no, that's not my style. Being the archived man that i am there are a few posts in here he should see. And if not, there are always the screenshots that would showcase that i kept an okay tone.

I mean, i hold no grudges, what i read is simply a misinformed conclusion, which got brought forward simply because, atleast from their side, they refrained from having a proper discussion. I was told to fuck off. Not sure if it was this topic or the other but at one point i just said something to the effect of ''This is what makes it difficult for people outside ERA to not see the negative imagery anymore'' and i instantly was called jealous for being permaed and if i kindly could fuck off.

Like, there is literally no base then to even start a conversation if come in that way, with your answer essentially being ''I don't know you and i don't care to know you'', like this Oblivion meme shows:

Who is that guy?

Just someone from the Discord, nothing less, nothing more. For a second i thought it was that one user who claimed to suicide himself in multiple tweets and then didn't do that. The reason i thought it was him is because there was a similar Splatoon avatar, Dutch user name though so that was interesting.

Dont know. I saw the images linked on Kiwi and brought them over so Redneckerz JordanN and Blam could take a look.

Seems they are from Nov. anyway, kinda old and have zero responses.
His twitter, and Facebook (which isnt hard to find) are lonely islands of no friends or responses anyway.
He seems to be a NEET (twitter mentions medication to continue his "disability") with a Nintendo hardon. Classic shut-in autist type with an obsession for Nintendo...we all the know the type.

I don't think he is autistic and his disability does not have to be under brackets since i well remember that it was actually quite the sad story. There was also another called RoyaleDuke but that ERA thread went completely south when people misinterpreted my line and Duke months later still held it against me and ranted off on me being a Trump supporter and what not.

I can't confirm its a good feeling being barged with such intense ranting that any coherent point is dissolved. Went out of my way to apologize and to explain but it was not enough. Actually that's also partially why i got banned from the Mental Health ERA Discord because you can only be empathetic to someone's cause if you keep the lesser soft words out of the equation. Sorry, but you can't sugarcoat everything, especially when always playing it that way does not have the desired effect. Mind you, i was not even thinking of saying something blunt like Matt would. Matt wouldn't last 5 minutes in that Discord.

I get being sensitive and all but that was just too much pandering. More pandering and you might aswell get the baby box out of the garage so nothing can reach them.

What is this? Do we really need such aggressive targeted attacks against disabled people?

I do find it curious how that initiates a post from you but the whole Twitter chain by Nanashrew does not bat you an eye (Or Nobody_Important , who so cleverely liked your post for support. Remember Nobody you have yet to take any accountability for calling my reminders harassment and spam and its really difficult for me not to make an accusation on your address for cowardice on your part. I am okay with us disagreeing on the ERA talk but you not taking accountability for that shitty accusation is poor sports.)

What do you think of that tweetchain?

Which disability?

It is not mentioned here, but the disability part is geniune at the very least. Not that i would make fun out of that, although if you think i am a loser, you might think that. :/

Who is that soyboy and why is his mommy allowing him to check the net unsupervised?

Lets not call people soyboy like that or make such a low quality post. Just because Nana has a misconstrued conception of my activity here (or GAF by itself) should not be an invite to throw insults around imo.

I mean, just because they (Not Nana) do that, does not mean we have to. That's only reserved for people who just won't get it.

 

[Ribi]

USA USA USA

 

[Redneckerz]

USA USA USA

My man this is like the third time in 1.5 weeks i see you make this kind of post that literally goes nowhere. What is the thought behind this? Because it reads like a textbook post from the sidelines to me.

Not calling you out, just curious.

 

[TrainedRage]

My man this is like the third time in 1.5 weeks i see you make this kind of post that literally goes nowhere. What is the thought behind this? Because it reads like a textbook post from the sidelines to me.

Not calling you out, just curious.

Clearly they support the USA military and Donald Trump.

 

[Yoshi]

I do find it curious how that initiates a post from you but the whole Twitter chain by Nanashrew does not bat you an eye (Or @Nobody_Importants, who so cleverely liked your post for support. Remember Nobody you have yet to take any accountability for calling my reminders harassment and spam and its really difficult for me not to make an accusation on your address for cowardice on your part. I am okay with us disagreeing on the ERA talk but you not taking accountability for that shitty accusation is poor sports.)

One thing is a behaviour of random Twitter guy with a mixture of legitimate criticisim (nicknaming having an obfuscating effect and relying on extremist websites as sources) with conspiracy theories (much of what he is saying about you otherwise), which is shitty, but, well, he poster is not in this board and it is less clear cut an issue to me when compared to attacking people for being disabled on the very platform I use as well.

 

[Redneckerz]

Clearly they support the USA military and Donald Trump.

But it has nothing to do with the topic at hand? It would be like me going into a car thread and start talking about Latvia.

One thing is a behaviour of random Twitter guy with a mixture of legitimate criticisim (nicknaming having an obfuscating effect and relying on extremist websites as sources)

No offense but giving me a fucking break about nicknames having an obfuscating effect. I have literally explained this so many times now and if people want to see some grand conspiracy in that then they just aren't looking good enough.

Also extremist websites, i don't support their notions, but there is as much legitimate opinion to be found there then there is on ERA. Do i really need to get my book of examples out again?

with conspiracy theories (much of what he is saying about you otherwise), which is shitty, but, well, he poster is not in this board and it is less clear cut an issue to me when compared to attacking people for being disabled on the very platform I use as well.

I just find your choice of priorities curious, that is all.

 

[Yoshi]

No offense but giving me a fucking break about nicknames having an obfuscating effect. I have literally explained this so many times now and if people want to see some grand conspiracy in that then they just aren't looking good enough.

I believe your intentions, but it has effects beyond the intentions. I really don't think the nicknames are a good idea or have anywhere clos to the effect you desire.

Also extremist websites, i don't support their notions, but there is as much legitimate opinion to be found there then there is on ERA. Do i really need to get my book of examples out again?

A website that hosts right extremists' viewpoints is inacceptable as a source from my perspective. I sometimes read what you link from such a source anyway, but that's because I trust you to be careful with your choice. I cannot expect the same from people outside of NeoGAF who do have a negative preconception of the site.

I just find your choice of priorities curious, that is all.

I have explained them to you, but you are of course free to disagree.

 

[Blam]

Wow that's nice didn't know I am still being slandered by people on ERA for being a "rat". Good to know nobody likes the truth. I still to this day don't know who or where the info on ERA was shared lmao

 

[Papa]

Redneckerz JordanN Blam

You guys know who this dude is?
You guys are fostering a Nazi movement!!

Hahaha what a goober. I just had a quick captain cook at this cunt’s twitter and he was sperging about transphobia and smash bros racism on New Year’s Eve. Redneckerz JordanN Blam don’t worry about this neurotic no lifer.

Jason Lacour: I know you’re reading this. You will be a virgin and a loser for the rest of your life if you keep shilling for the cult.

 

[Redneckerz]

Hahaha what a goober. I just had a quick captain cook at this cunt’s twitter and he was sperging about transphobia and smash bros racism on New Year’s Eve. Redneckerz JordanN Blam don’t worry about this neurotic no lifer.

Jason Lacour: I know you’re reading this. You will be a virgin and a loser for the rest of your life if you keep shilling for the cult.

Classy.

This is really the example GAF has to set in 2019.










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[Papa]

Hah! I actually know that person, or well, atleast the name. I think it was from some drama but eh.

Oh wait, its That Nanashrew? I have to check my logs for that then. I don't remember that the salt dispensed was of good enough quality to preserve, but apparently it was for you Jason? In any case i apologize. Oh i remember, i actually still have those logs/screens about that stuff. You want to see those?


Jason, since i know you read here (Apparently not that great though!) you have some things incorrect. Also i wish you would have just addressed me in PM and you would find a civilized discussion would prosper. Just like on ERA (And i am not being satricial here!).

What's that? The guy who made up those code words is voicing support for ERA? That's right! Unlike your series of tweets that miss details, i am well aware that not everyone is a crapshooter on ERA and a lot of people, including people on the staff itself, are just fine men, lasses, and trans people. (Hey, i support these folks 100%!)

The reason i made those code words Jason is to differentiate the actual crappy people and the (majority) that aren't. It makes it far easier for me to refer to people when i talk about Little Helpers or The Names.

Secondly, I got banned over all other ERA related discords... literally 4 months after i was permabanned, and with no additional reasoning anyway. Just opened Discord and they were gone. Seems a bit delayed and odd, don't you think?

Lastly, you might want to ask yourself this: If the majority of the gaming community (And not just Kiwi/Bore/Voat/4chan/MisterMetokur/etc) are in the wrong regarding the status and image of ERA, don't you think that this is a little strange? Because that would suggest an orchestrated conspiracy that spans multiple sites, multiple outlets and somehow we would all be controlling this through... how exactly?

Or...

Is it because ERA's negative imagery is generated from within, thus the sole cause for the surrounding dislike among most of the gaming community is actually caused by those who you refer to as ''code words?''*

I should not have to remind you that conspiracies are unhealthy for the soul and mind. Thus, assuming proper intent, the bolded is far more likely than what you are suggesting to your tweets. Be honest.

If you want names, ill happily provide them. The only thing i would ask of you, since you seem to take an personal interest in me: Please contact me privately, either here, or hey, even on Discord. Same username too.*

Spoiler: *

Hell, i have a Twitter handle too which isn't associated with GAF. Ill happily contact you if you aren't making the attempt.

You will find i am hardly as bad as you portray me out to be, that is, if you are willing to have a proper talk about this.

Because, if else, it makes your definition of me (Loser) rather off: Instead of addressing me directly, you launched a series of tweets (that apparently saw no likes, so your reach is what, nill?) behind my back and i know for a fine fact i never even addressed you in my forum novelles about ERA.

Lets both not be losers and please reach out to me, okay? Ill give you a week.

PS: You do know its not nice to refer to a Discord discussion where i held a civil tone, you know? Looking back at the convo, its pretty obvious that the sharks were released before one could even make a point. Whose problem is that, you think? Again, be honest.

@PKM can you send this over to Jason?

lol stop apologizing, you fool. That’s what these idiots want. They love playing the victim and an apology is the ultimate confirmation of their victimhood.

 

[Papa]

Classy.

This is really the example GAF has to set in 2019.










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Those cunts unpersoned you like a Soviet dissenter and you still want to try to pretend they’re just making innocent mistakes. Your feigned high road schtick is transparent, ineffective, and plays to their game, not yours.

 

[Papa]

Oh no, that's not my style. Being the archived man that i am there are a few posts in here he should see. And if not, there are always the screenshots that would showcase that i kept an okay tone.

I mean, i hold no grudges, what i read is simply a misinformed conclusion, which got brought forward simply because, atleast from their side, they refrained from having a proper discussion. I was told to fuck off. Not sure if it was this topic or the other but at one point i just said something to the effect of ''This is what makes it difficult for people outside ERA to not see the negative imagery anymore'' and i instantly was called jealous for being permaed and if i kindly could fuck off.

Like, there is literally no base then to even start a conversation if come in that way, with your answer essentially being ''I don't know you and i don't care to know you'', like this Oblivion meme shows:




Just someone from the Discord, nothing less, nothing more. For a second i thought it was that one user who claimed to suicide himself in multiple tweets and then didn't do that. The reason i thought it was him is because there was a similar Splatoon avatar, Dutch user name though so that was interesting.


I don't think he is autistic and his disability does not have to be under brackets since i well remember that it was actually quite the sad story. There was also another called RoyaleDuke but that ERA thread went completely south when people misinterpreted my line and Duke months later still held it against me and ranted off on me being a Trump supporter and what not.

I can't confirm its a good feeling being barged with such intense ranting that any coherent point is dissolved. Went out of my way to apologize and to explain but it was not enough. Actually that's also partially why i got banned from the Mental Health ERA Discord because you can only be empathetic to someone's cause if you keep the lesser soft words out of the equation. Sorry, but you can't sugarcoat everything, especially when always playing it that way does not have the desired effect. Mind you, i was not even thinking of saying something blunt like Matt would. Matt wouldn't last 5 minutes in that Discord.

I get being sensitive and all but that was just too much pandering. More pandering and you might aswell get the baby box out of the garage so nothing can reach them.


I do find it curious how that initiates a post from you but the whole Twitter chain by Nanashrew does not bat you an eye (Or @Nobody_Importants, who so cleverely liked your post for support. Remember Nobody you have yet to take any accountability for calling my reminders harassment and spam and its really difficult for me not to make an accusation on your address for cowardice on your part. I am okay with us disagreeing on the ERA talk but you not taking accountability for that shitty accusation is poor sports.)

What do you think of that tweetchain?

It is not mentioned here, but the disability part is geniune at the very least. Not that i would make fun out of that, although if you think i am a loser, you might think that. :/


Lets not call people soyboy like that or make such a low quality post. Just because Nana has a misconstrued conception of my activity here (or GAF by itself) should not be an invite to throw insults around imo.

I mean, just because they (Not Nana) do that, does not mean we have to. That's only reserved for people who just won't get it.

tbh I’d be surprised if I lasted 2 minutes.

 

[The Mad Draklor]

Redneckerz JordanN Blam

You guys know who this dude is?
You guys are fostering a Nazi movement!!

It’s always the fault of the alt-right Nazis or what not. *Rolls eyes

KiA, Kiwifarms, and NeoGAF don’t do any recruitment. ERA abuses its power and permabans users for bs reasons. Those people, then, find a new place to discuss games.

 

[Musky_Cheese]

Who’s the Jason guy?

I wouldn’t even respond to someone like that and I would suggest others don’t either... even if they are insulting you personally. Nothing can be gained by arguing with someone about a topic they clearly are uneducated about.

You never argue against conspiracy theories and their authors. You just listen and appreciate the silliness.

 

[Mochilador]

Oh boy, somebody is going to be dogpilled. Look at the post below:

I hope he can make some of the changes he promised and I'm glad we didn't give the worker's party another shot.
The First Lady's speech was touching.

It's from this thread: https://www.resetera.com/threads/jair-bolsonaro-sworn-in-as-president-of-brazil.90667/page-3

The brazilian left hates that guy the same way liberals hate Trump.
I bet he's gonna be banned for that post.

 

[Papa]

Oh boy, somebody is going to be dogpilled. Look at the post below:



It's from this thread: https://www.resetera.com/threads/jair-bolsonaro-sworn-in-as-president-of-brazil.90667/page-3

The brazilian left hates that guy the same way liberals hate Trump.
I bet he's gonna be banned for that post.

Check out F fantomena in that thread. Like a completely different persona to here.

 

[Redneckerz]

lol stop apologizing, you fool. That’s what these idiots want. They love playing the victim and an apology is the ultimate confirmation of their victimhood.

This was an apology to a long forgotten conversation.

Those cunts unpersoned you like a Soviet dissenter and you still want to try to pretend they’re just making innocent mistakes. Your feigned high road schtick is transparent, ineffective, and plays to their game, not yours.

Except its not a shtick, and im not pretending they made innocent mistakes.

tbh I’d be surprised if I lasted 2 minutes.

That's what she said.