Afro Republican
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Oh man. Can’t believe I missed the first official PS5 news while at work.
Looks like a long, great read too. Time to get ready
Got a TV for your bathtub I see.
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[WIRED] Exclusive with Mark Cerny, PS5 specs detailed
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Got a TV for your bathtub I see.
Tarin02543
Member
I believe the Pro and the X were created to push the 4K market.
The PS5 won't have to have a Pro model as it is pushing 4K at launch.
The PS5 won't have to have a Pro model as it is pushing 4K at launch.
MiyazakiHatesKojima
Banned
Sony already won next gen.
demigod
Member
Pro to push 8k.
VincentMatts
Member
What, you dont like random tweets to articles instead of an actual e3 conference?
notoccupanther
Member
Ray Tracing for audio is mind blown.gif for me. Didn't even know it was a thing.
But having it described, of course its its possible...
Great to see audio get some TLC next gen. Love me some awesome audio wizardry.
Hopefully the AVR club will get the same treatment as the Headphone peeps, who seem to be shaping up to get the royal treatment next-gen, according to Mark.
But having it described, of course its its possible...
Great to see audio get some TLC next gen. Love me some awesome audio wizardry.
Hopefully the AVR club will get the same treatment as the Headphone peeps, who seem to be shaping up to get the royal treatment next-gen, according to Mark.
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HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
With the install base of the PS4 just being back compat and possibly running those games better than ever ended next gen, imo.
OsirisBlack
Banned
Specs still are not final but they're pretty close.
CrustyBritches
Gold Member
OsirisBlack, my man! What happened to the GAF exclusive spec drop you were gonna give us last year? We were worried Sony ninjas had you tied up in the basement somewhere.
Everyone and their mom expects 8-core Zen. What are we looking at for the GPU? GCN with high clocks, post-GCN? What is the word!?
ThaMonkeyClaw
Member
Agreed, I think that should be the new console 'sweet spot', especially since it is fully BC with PS4 and its library, and if they have a day 1 patch for some of those PS4 games to enhance things then all the better! I mean imagine if all the top PS4 AAA games were patched for a day 1 launch all running at 4k/60 with updated textures and ray tracing, that would give the system instant traction with consumers.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
This is a gamechanger for some (not me). Glad it's in there for the first time on a new Sony console, will ensure even less gamers jump to Xbox at the start of this new gen.
Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
First you have to understand that open world games are designed a bit differently. No fanboy bullshit, this is just how they are done.
Open world games will usually have lower quality than normal assets, which is why Spider-Man looks great as a visual piece, but once up close falls apart when compared to other AAA titles. You also load the once, and then go about your business in the game, with streaming of new data coming in from the background. This streaming usually dictates that you will be using standard res assets, otherwise the throttling of moving data into and out of memory would be excessive to the point of distracting.
Now, why is that a problem? It’s not. Spider man is a brilliant looking game, there’s no doubt. But it’s not memory intensive when it comes to load calls. Hell of I recall correctly it loads the world with lowest mips first before it loads in higher resolution assets based on your field of view.
But it’s not the best tool to gauge loading times on. I wouldn’t use an open world title for this. Open world games would benefit massively (and do) form ssd, but they give you a false narrative for what your average game would be like.
Nymphae
Banned
Wow that's nuts. The loading times in SFV are so fucking painful.
ethomaz
Banned
Looks like $499.
KINDERFELD
Banned
You know what an RTX graphics card is?
I kind of expect 500 to be the entry level price, but won't cry if that is the price for 2 TB SSD with a cheaper base model. Maybe wishful thinking, but hope endures because there are lots of people who probably cannot swing 500, and I bet Sony wants their eco space greenbacks too.
ethomaz
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Yes... nVidia named their cards with dedicated ray-tracing hardware GeForce RTX.
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KINDERFELD
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Absolutely no need to.
I've played games like God of War, Uncharted 4, Spiderman and Horizon Zero Dawn on my Pro.
Those games may not match the resolution and performance of what PC can achieve but they look amazing and showcase what a console can do for a fraction of the cost.
The same will be true for the PS5.
Furthermore, in order for anyone to experience those games mentioned in performance, resolution etc better than PS4, you'd need to emulate the games. So that would require a PC ridiculously more powerful and expensive PC than a $400 console.
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Lupin3
Targeting terrorists with a D-Pad
That's all I needed to hear. Will stop playing right away on my JET ENGINE (a.k.a. Pro) and save my games for PS5, which hopefully will handle them quieter. And faster.
ThaMonkeyClaw
Member
I feel like this is what is going to happen:
PS5 - $499
PS4 Pro - $299
PS4 Slim - $199 or they stop production on it and only focus on PS4 Pro and PS5
As much as I would love to see a 2TB NVMe SSD in the PS5 I don't think they will do that right out the gate, my guesstimate it will probably be a 1TB due to them trying to keep the cost reasonable.
OsirisBlack
Banned
I've got numbers and the ones i posted previously are close including the RAM specs. Things have changed but not by much. Not Sony ninjas but at the time very few people had any information and me blabbing would have fucked someone else over.
Ogbert
Member
You’re quite right that those games look fantastic. Especially Horizon. But you buy a gaming PC for frame rate. Playing video games at over 60fps is an entirely different experience.
One of the exciting things about this upcoming gem is, with these specs, third party developers have the ability to deliver good looking console games at higher frame rates. That’s why the ray tracing thing is kind of a red herring. It would be a pity if it was a priority.
But that’s for the developers to decide.
KINDERFELD
Banned
Prioritizing implementation of RT means devs will be going for photorealism in their games.
Its the natural evolution of video game graphics.
but i wish i understand the things related to the chip , AMD, raytrazyn etc
Shin
Banned
More or less or not at liberty to give that out at this point?
Asking because of the 18 lining up with a recent "Gonzalo" ID string.
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dottme
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You should look at the PS3 before doing such affirmation.
Winter John
Gold Member
I'm real happy Sony are adding backwards compatability in their new console. That is the most important thing to me as every game I own is digital. There was no way I was buying a PS5 if BC hadn't been added. I ain't interested in the VR stuff and I'll see what Microsoft have up their sleeve before I make a decision, but BC is really all I wanted to hear from Sony.
Von Hugh
Member
You had nothing. Sorry to be frank.
VincentMatts
Member
I think everyone is expecting MS to make the same launch mistakes this time around too. Bundled kinect, higher price point, weaker hardware, etc. They clealy will not have leanred anything from last time. Makes total sense.
They are not ready for a full reveal, obviously given that the product is probably more than a year away from release, this is a marketing stunt (successful based on the reactions) to officially join the next gen conversation and to create hype around their product. They certainly don't want competitors like Google and Microsoft to get the spotlight alone for too much time.
Starlight Lotice
Member
All it is lacking is the expensive price tag. Given Cerny's response, I fear the worst.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
llien
Member
People just don't understand that it's not just any SSD. They are usually some form of an M2.SSD or a NVMe drive. The hard drive will look like this.
But why is it "faster than any solution available on PC" though?
PS
Dayum, had this been a leak, I'd call BS.
BenBuja
Neo Member
Would be cool if the backwards compatibility allows PS4 games to be rendered in native 4K. Definitely gonna pick one up either way...
Also it looks like Nvidia bet on the right horse with their focus on ray tracing. When consoles adopt the feature it's likely going to be the standard in the near future.
Also it looks like Nvidia bet on the right horse with their focus on ray tracing. When consoles adopt the feature it's likely going to be the standard in the near future.
Go big or go home this gen, this is going to be a very super long gen. Since the games will be targeting both PS4/PS4/5 for quite a few years. High adoption rate is not necessarily needed early on, imo.
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joe_zazen
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Maybe. We had some leaks that said 2019 was possible last fall which means things are far along. March seems doable depending on component cost, especially if launch line is cross gen upgrades from 2019 holiday. But, to me, even a year seems like a long time...so I am still on team 2019.
CrustyBritches
Gold Member
Are you sure about the GDDR5 part? I seem to remember an AMD interview where they stated Navi will be paired with either GDDR6 or HBM2. 18GB seems like a weird number, too. Even the 2.1GHz GPU clock seems a bit high, but that would indicate GCN limitations are still in place?
DeepEnigma
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Probably how they do their I/O stack which he said he’s not commenting on at the time. So there’s probably some customizations where it is direct to chip or the like.
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ResilientBanana
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Hopefully the 2019 crowd will die down now.