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Not really.
Azure bigger now and better. Sony switching completely to Azure.
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Sony and Microsoft to explore strategic partnership
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Azure bigger now and better. Sony switching completely to Azure.
Azure performance wise best.
What does a big cloud even mean? What does a better cloud even mean? None of this has much bearing on much to the typical gamer, life will go on and nothing of real value will change for typical gamers. Cloud processing is really a made up marketing term. Of course, there are services that can make life easier for corporations but all this goes on in the background.
Jigsaah
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It's hard to enlighten someone who is so obviously adverse to the notion of enlightenment.
Jigsaah
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Misinformed...by...the two of you?
Panajev2001a
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Seems a bit condescending...
Jigsaah
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Yea, well...some people you just cant help.
JustP_Gaming
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What does it matter that they had legal troubles? My point was that they gave Apple money and they are here today because of it. A comparison to MS now helping Sony with Cloud infrastructure. You're too emotional turning simple things into negative rebutals for no reason. It must run in your veins.Not sure, but since we are on such an intimate basis and I feel I can talk things with you: how do you manage to keep posting random things that have almost nothing to do with whatever people are saying and not distract you from turning positive news about a company you do not like into another whatever-they-do-is-dumb drive by trolls series?
Seriously though, did you really compare Sony of today and their handling of PlayStation to ‘90s Apple? In a way it is flattering, considering the next 20 years and MS efforts in the fields they directly competed in (MS portable computing).
You could also comment about exactly what I said (MS legal troubles in the 90’s are a matter of public record hence why you gaslighted the thread again with a “banter, yah, banter” drive by), but it would be naive for me to expect that at this point
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And Sony will be helping Microsoft with their game streaming services.
JustP_Gaming
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This is also true.
Panajev2001a
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So you were indeed comparing Sony now to Apple in the 90’s?
I wanted to stop on another thing you have said. “They gave money to Apple and they are here today because of it”... are you talking about Sony making billions out of this and following Apple’s trajectory or is it a system war dig?
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, so you were indeed comparing Sony now to Apple in the 90’s.
I wanted to stop on another thing you have said. “They gave money to Apple and they are here today because of it”... I am not sure if you are that cynic and you have MS tattooed on your underwear or if you are yanking my chain
Apple was struggling in the 90s before Jobs came back, but you are correct, Apple is here because they were able to dominate the consumer side of the market.
The video marks the end of Microsoft as a real player on the consumer device side of the market, generally speaking.
Panajev2001a
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Sure, I remember Apple in those days... it was bad indeed and their business was directionless and flunking... badly...
The funny part was about the angle of the original post I replied to kind of follows the angle “Sony is directionless and flunking... XCloud has all these billions behind Azure backing them”... etc... similar song and dance we have been hearing for a while.
Then, if you point to this deal and say that is a sign of cloud services companies caring more about expansions than another branch of the company trying to win a much smaller pie of the game (not saying they are screwing over the XCloud guys beyond... not refusing to sign on PlayStation) then the parallel is to how MS was trying to avoid being broken by the government for abusing their monopoly position.
I just found it funny to use that as a positive parallel...
.Edit: to be serious now, the thing is that I have not and am not putting down how MS is running their cloud services division, not even how they are evolving Windows 10 (especially as a development platform)... AWS, Azure, and GCP are all top notch players in that field.
Sony making a deal to get PlayStation onto Azure to expand their service is akin to Apple taking advantage of their deal with Samsung or TSMC... it benefits everyone involved, except those people that kept fusing Azure with XCloud and thought MS was giving the full might of Azure as a weapon to the Xbox division instead of signing on a huge player with a growing service (PSN is generating humongous profits and PSNow is making really good business too) and a good plan for that infrastructure to generate revenue with.
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Yes, but you should understand that a bad situation can always become worse.
And by worse I mean Sony giving their user's private information to Microsoft from cross platform play. For anyone looking for a good read, I recommend the "PRISM (surveillance program)" article on Wikipedia. This being one of the NSA projects disclosed by Edward Snowden in which the US gov paid private corporations billions of dollars for the personal information of their customers. Note that Microsoft was the first company to sign on to the program, essentially becoming a pioneer in this process. So its bad enough that Sony is not quite clear what they do with your personal information, but if they plan on giving it to Microsoft, then we should pretty much expect the world to know which character you chose to romance, which faction you sided with for whatever reason, how you took such a painfully slow time to solve that puzzle, etc. etc.
JustP_Gaming
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Let's get one thing clear, I don't partake in this system war. I have my preference but I'm not of a prepubescent mentality and only engage intelligent convo devoid of emotions and unneeded negativity.
CyberPanda
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I hated that CEO so much. He was such an obnoxious scum bag.
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TLZ
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CyberPanda
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Get out!Waaaahahahhah! Aaahahahaha!
I wish he was Xbox's boss.
Fucking nasty.
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TLZ
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Imagine doing all that at E3!
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CyberPanda
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SonGoku
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stickkidsam
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The console wars are over because the Nazi-er-streaming services won.
Panajev2001a
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Let’s take it at your word for this thread and put aside any aggressiveness and negativity in past threads... PSVR (most units collecting dust and not being used must have been a facts based conclusion and not unneeded negativity), Days Gone, etc... then, same here.
Are we then willing to discuss what I was saying then?
You were not accused, certainly not of having a prepubescent mentality, but “only engage intelligent convo, devoid of emotions, and unneeded “negativity””? Not tooting your own horn there, right
?Laughing drive-by’s attacking other posters and not discussing directly and calmly what is being said does not scream Vulkan like logic only and emotionally detached to me...
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TLZ
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Even better!
devilNprada
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I would think psn and ps now have always used "the power of the cloud". Only thing changed is they get a better deal with Microsoft. Microsoft has always had access to Sony sensors, a majority of cell phones including Apple, use Sony sensors. This is just the normal course of business, not really fan boy ammo.
devilNprada
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Yeah mine collects dust true.. Only because it's cumbersome to set up and I'm lazy, but it really is pretty f'n cool.
Agree with you for sure. What Nadella is doing is no different than what he did with mobile (phones/watches/tablets) or really anything else. Offer their services on as many devices as possible, Apple is not really a competitor, its a customer.
All this cloud gaming stuff has been talked about way too much, we have like a dozen cloud customers yet we have 20 companies fighting over the dozen customers.
PS Now/Game Pass have some ability to make a little money renting games (mostly old ones), but game streaming is dead - even if one liked game streaming people can do it for free with PS Remote Play or other services. Windows (and Xbox) customers are slowly being (or soon will be) transitioned to being cloud service customers, not sure Sony will follow but they are keeping their options open. Gaming is small potatoes for Microsoft, Microsoft's real goal is to get all of their products/services running in the cloud (probably 80% there now) i.e. Windows customers. There goal is to turn the existing non-subscriber customers from Windows/Xbox into subscriber customers.What needs to happen is a big push from every other tech company to push a new OS that way there is a free open platform for win32 or win32 converted. The server side is pretty much Linux at this point, but Linux has a long way to go to be a decent desktop OS for common consumer. Most of this isn't even about Xbox, its about Windows. If Microsoft can convert 20-40% of Windows consumer users into Windows Virtual Desktop users... huge revenue.
Phil Spencer has a tough job, I've been saying that for a long time. He is trying to keep as many Xbox customers going along for the trip to the cloud, while on the other side of things Nadella is destroying the things Phil needs to retain Xbox users i.e. breaking down walls with other companies. I expect Xbox as a Hardware sales to continue to go down, even though they're close to original Xbox sales on an annual basis now.
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JustP_Gaming
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Now you are just making things up, I do not attack posters, as that's not my style (use my post history as proof) Are you seriously reading the things you write. Have you ever heard the term verbal diarrhea? Look up the definition if notLet’s take it at your word for this thread and put aside any aggressiveness and negativity in past threads... PSVR (most units collecting dust and not being used must have been a facts based conclusion and not unneeded negativity), Days Gone, etc... then, same here.
Are we then willing to discuss what I was saying then?
You were not accused, certainly not of having a prepubescent mentality, but “only engage intelligent convo, devoid of emotions, and unneeded “negativity””? Not tooting your own horn there, right
Laughing drive-by’s attacking other posters and not discussing directly and calmly what is being said does not scream Vulkan like logic only and emotionally detached to me...
Panajev2001a
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I have... and there’s another example (btw, recognise the PSVR related quote?). Concise enough?
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JustP_Gaming
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Now I know you're making things up. I feel like I'm being punked now.
Panajev2001a
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I am not making anything up, not punking anyone. Going back to the thread’s topic anytime soon?
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JustP_Gaming
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I've come to the conclusion debating with you is useless as you tend to derail the discussion with irrelevant subjects and with things I didn't mention. ie. PSVR, find me a post where I mention PSVR other than this post. I'll wait.
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Panajev2001a
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Sony Interactive Entertainment reveals that 4.2m PlayStation VR units were sold
During various updates happening today thanks to State of Play, Sony Interactive Entertainment revealed that PlayStation VR has sold a massive 4.2 million units as of March 3rd, 2019! Sid Shuman said the following on the PlayStation Blog: We’re also very excited to reveal that we have...
You keep on doing emotional personal attacks (sometimes for the lulz perhaps) and keep interacting just to troll and say something? I keep bringing back to the original topic, you keep mocking off your high horse (“only engage intelligent convo devoid of emotions and unneeded negativity” all offer derailing it by avoiding the discussion and mocking my post for being dipped in negativity or something
).
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JustP_Gaming
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Nothing emotional about my posts I'm neither angry upset or in a depressed state. Just stating opinions and facts. As a matter of fact you are the one who engaged me first. Obviously you engaged me due to being emotional about something I posted. So how about just putting me on your ignore list and carry on your day. You said I said they were collecting dust. You just proved you were making things up, and I don't do things for lulz I'm too old for that.. Check the post history.Sony Interactive Entertainment reveals that 4.2m PlayStation VR units were sold
During various updates happening today thanks to State of Play, Sony Interactive Entertainment revealed that PlayStation VR has sold a massive 4.2 million units as of March 3rd, 2019! Sid Shuman said the following on the PlayStation Blog: We’re also very excited to reveal that we have...www.neogaf.com
You keep on doing emotional personal attacks (sometimes for the lulz perhaps) and keep interacting just to troll and say something? I keep bringing back to the original topic, you keep mocking off your high horse (“only engage intelligent convo devoid of emotions and unneeded negativity” all offer derailing it by avoiding the discussion and mocking my post for being dipped in negativity or something
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Panajev2001a
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You are routinely being dismissive at other posters, make fun or insult instead of engaging with the matter at hand, and have plenty of justifications for either... all topped of with this pure logic + no emotions factual façade and projecting onto the person who is disagreeing with you as if they were on an emotional crusade against you. Goalpost moving is another part of this I guess... I did provide you with the link you asked for and would still be happy to discuss the core matter or the thread
.I post to discourse and discuss matters that have interest to me and I enjoy logical dialogue, but do not mind passion either... so no, I do not like putting anyone on an ignore list. I replied to something that was said as I found it reasonable to do so.
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JustP_Gaming
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if you're going to say someone said something, as a rule of thumb you should use exact terminology don't embellish. You introduce topics into discussions that are irrelevant to try to prove a point ie. bringing up legal issues with MS. You are the type that has to get in the last word by any means necessary. I know the type and I've been watching your posts for a long time.
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Panajev2001a
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Glad to have a stalker
. I did not embellish what you said, but I do feel you are doing every single thing you are accusing me of......says the person who brought in the MS bailout of Apple in the 90’s and admits no critique of that point used as evidence of your reasoning. Not sure what it was beyond a generic “net positive for Xbox, MS likes to keep a failing competitor alive (well the reason why they did the bailout was interesting... quoted something to draw only the parallel you were interested in)”.
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JustP_Gaming
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Well that's your opinion and I will continue with mine.Glad to have a stalker
Panajev2001a
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No, that is more of a statement of fact.
I have not insulted you (“verbal diarrhoea” “emotionally charged posting”), did not exaggerate what you said, did not challenge you to prove something you said and ignore the presented proof, did not keep on boasting how I am a bastion of emotionless facts and logic while throwing more shade your way for the heck of it... also I have not been stereotyping you after “following your posts for a long time” (which comes across as stalkerish... next time maybe say something like “I have just read your post history, etc”... emphasis on the “just”).
Still, you keep being you and I will keep being me.
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JustP_Gaming
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Just as i said in a previous post..just have to get that last word in huh? Oh and I most definitely do not need post advice from you...but thanks anyway.
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CyberPanda
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12Dannu123
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The irony is pretty funny. People have been saying that Sony and Nintendo don't need to get into the Cloud market and don't need anyone to do it. It's clear that Sony and Nintendo see the writing on the wall.
Sony and Nintendo won't survive going alone in a Cloud war.
It's clear that the new big three in gaming is going to be Amazon, Google and Microsoft.
Sony and Nintendo won't survive going alone in a Cloud war.
It's clear that the new big three in gaming is going to be Amazon, Google and Microsoft.
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Phil probably just found out today.
haha Well, the whole Playstation Unit just found out:
[Bloomberg] Sony Deal With Microsoft Blindsided Its Own PlayStation Team.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-19/sony-s-deal-with-microsoft-blindsided-its-own-playstation-team Last week, the companies announced a strategic partnership to co-develop game streaming technology and host some of PlayStation’s online services on the Redmond-based company’s...
Epic fail.
LuvOfThaGame
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Sony looking ahead to future: 🏳
Airbus Jr
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Two microsoft posterboy above me saying sony is giving up waving white flag for this Azure cooperation with microsoft despite theyre the leading gaming company right now, about to reach 100 million sales soon and owned 73 % gaming marketshare worldwide.
You guys are comedy gold around here keep it up.
You guys are comedy gold around here keep it up.
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LuvOfThaGame
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Calm down. Have some dip.
Airbus Jr
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LuvOfThaGame
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Lost my bahbah. Teddy bear ran off. Feeling cranky. Thanks for asking. Nice to have people who care.