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Ban me please

Ol'Scratch

Member
Joking aside I think the higher percentage of people who play these games are doing it more as a joke than someone fapping while playing. The OPs reminds me of others who immediately equate the art style to pedos and shut ins which is honestly rather asinine. I think that is what generated the tag. It is much like certain people who posted in the 2D thread because their thin sensibilities were being offended and the first thing they do is go about spouting off and stereotyping people who enjoy an artstyle.
 

ymoc

Member
No matter the circumstances, that tag is a highly unprofessional action by a moderator.

We have so much shit calling in other topics (usually shitting on the left) without users being labeled for spreading their... discontent. We should keep it that way.

I don't know what happened here. Maybe this shit calling hit a bit too close to home for some?
 

Tesseract

Banned
Sorry to get all logically technical, but this is what we call an Appeal to Consequences. In this case, you're judging a game based on the desirability or undesirability of a possible outcome.

The statement above follows this form of the fallacy: "X is false because if people did not accept X as being false, then there would be negative consequences."

It totally ignores the merits of the game itself and again, just focuses on the character of certain people who play Game X.

i know about the fallacy, sometimes it's functionally true when looking beyond the scope of desirability

it's not epistemic (a game of truth tables)
 
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i know about the fallacy, sometimes it's functionally true when looking beyond the scope of desirability

it's not epistemic (a game of truth tables)
Yes, but at that point, you're not talking about the game itself. You're just concerned about hypothetical outcomes. This is no different from Extra Credit's "Stop Normalizing Nazis" video in which its thesis was rejected wholesale.
 

Dr. Claus

Vincit qui se vincit
Joking aside I think the higher percentage of people who play these games are doing it more as a joke than someone fapping while playing. The OPs reminds me of others who immediately equate the art style to pedos and shut ins which is honestly rather asinine. I think that is what generated the tag. It is much like certain people who posted in the 2D thread because their thin sensibilities were being offended and the first thing they do is go about spouting off and stereotyping people who enjoy an artstyle.

Reminds me of those "male feminist" types that almost always end up projecting their own issues onto others.

No matter the circumstances, that tag is a highly unprofessional action by a moderator.

We have so much shit calling in other topics (usually shitting on the left) without users being labeled for spreading their... discontent. We should keep it that way.

I don't know what happened here. Maybe this shit calling hit a bit too close to home for some?

Titles made for shaming have been a staple on GAF for well over a decade, even before the forum turned into an SJW/Regressive place. A good majority of the user's posts are literally as the title says.

Also you misconstrue people shitting on the far left for shitting on the left. Unless you consider the far-left to be normal and anything to that considered "right".
 
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Tesseract

Banned
Yes, but at that point, you're not talking about the game itself. You're just concerned about hypothetical outcomes. This is no different from Extra Credit's "Stop Normalizing Nazis" video in which its thesis was rejected wholesale.

probabilistic and somewhat inevitable i think, not just hypothetical

neither here nor there tho, i see your point as it relates to outcomes
 
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ymoc

Member
Reminds me of those "male feminist" types that almost always end up projecting their own issues onto others.



Titles made for shaming have been a staple on GAF for well over a decade, even before the forum turned into an SJW/Regressive place. A good majority of the user's posts are literally as the title says.

Also you misconstrue people shitting on the far left for shitting on the left. Unless you consider the far-left to be normal and anything to that considered "right".

Im not talking about title change. I'm talking about the tag.

I'm not going to go into semantics or even too specific. There is a lot of grounded criticism going on and then there is a lot of groundless criticism going on as well and it's not all about far left. Just look at any EU topic for example.
Nobody ever gets a demeaning tag these days. That's why this situation feels so out of place to me.
 

Dr. Claus

Vincit qui se vincit
Im not talking about title change. I'm talking about the tag.

I'm not going to go into semantics or even too specific. There is a lot of grounded criticism going on and then there is a lot of groundless criticism going on as well and it's not all about far left. Just look at any EU topic for example.
Nobody ever gets a demeaning tag these days. That's why this situation feels so out of place to me.

The tag is the title, yes. That is what they are referred to.

As for "grounded" or "groundless" criticism, I don't particularly care. Most people don't use the politics subforum and avoid it, preferring to converse about games on a gaming forum. I would suggest you do the same if it bothers you that much.
 

Ol'Scratch

Member
Quick someone gift him gold so that he is supporting the board!
Edit: Wait that would hide the tag wouldn't it
 
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Ugh, dislike these attention seeking exit threads. Ban requests are what you'd sensibly just send a message to a mod or EviLore. When you take the time to write up a thread, then it's mostly attention and to make a statement.

Checked out the game and I'd say it's not the hill I'd choose to die on. Could've at least understood it if it was a loli game. But it's just a crappy looking game where you go around as fairy /Thumbelina in a college dormitory and shoot anime-styled girls in their underwear.
 
Man this is crazy. I just got into an argument with someone on Reddit about essentially the same thing. It was about that recent Hentai site that shut down because of Loli(?) content. The commentor was defending his right to look at underage kids in adult situations because it was a victim-less crime. It being comics and all and not real people. I said that I never thought I would see the day where someone defended their right to look at underage kids having sex. That started a crazy debate where most people came to defense of the person wanting to look at loli content.

It is such a bizarre topic that I never thought would have two sides of consideration. I ultimately feel like it's wrong no matter what. But I can't come up with a clear argument that doesn't sound like I think we should be thought-policing people. Crazy world.
 

CuNi

Member
Hilarious tag, everyone here complaining need to harden the fuck up.

Mods please give me the most degenerate tag possible.

I swear I posted some responses that I thought were r/murderedbywords material and didn't get a tag and he does get one while trying to be serious and ends upset about it... man, the world truly is a unfair place.
 

Ol'Scratch

Member
Man this is crazy. I just got into an argument with someone on Reddit about essentially the same thing. It was about that recent Hentai site that shut down because of Loli(?) content. The commentor was defending his right to look at underage kids in adult situations because it was a victim-less crime. It being comics and all and not real people. I said that I never thought I would see the day where someone defended their right to look at underage kids having sex. That started a crazy debate where most people came to defense of the person wanting to look at loli content.

It is such a bizarre topic that I never thought would have two sides of consideration. I ultimately feel like it's wrong no matter what. But I can't come up with a clear argument that doesn't sound like I think we should be thought-policing people. Crazy world.
I think the real issue is when people start mentally assigning ages to things that generally do not have them. Then it becomes an issue of creating a narrative. Now if this person said he is looking at underage, then he needs to have his head put through a wall.
These games and most of this stuff does not go there and you can say all you want about "well just LOOK at them" but again it is you (not necessarily YOU but you know what I mean) filling in those details. That is on you and not the game or the game maker. At least in my opinion of course.
 
GAF has become a real shithole.
But watching this delusional reactionary circle jerk is kinda fascinating, like with a car crash, its hard to look away.
Also impressive to see how the misconduct allegations against Evilore caused him to lose any and all self respect, to the point that he now runs this shit show. Thats hilarious.
 
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GAF has become a real shithole.
But watching this delusional reactionary circle jerk is kinda fascinating, like with a car crash, its hard to look away.
Also impressive to see how the misconduct allegations against Evilore caused him to lose any and all self respect, to the point that he now runs this shit show. Thats hilarious.
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ROMhack

Member
GAF has become a real shithole.
But watching this delusional reactionary circle jerk is kinda fascinating, like with a car crash, its hard to look away.
Also impressive to see how the misconduct allegations against Evilore caused him to lose any and all self respect, to the point that he now runs this shit show. Thats hilarious.

What's so bad about it? It annoys me sometimes but I'm not sure why you think it's a 'shithole'.

Now 4chan is a shithole.
 
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Vawn

Banned
GAF has become a real shithole.
But watching this delusional reactionary circle jerk is kinda fascinating, like with a car crash, its hard to look away.
Also impressive to see how the misconduct allegations against Evilore caused him to lose any and all self respect, to the point that he now runs this shit show. Thats hilarious.

Because it's not a SJW propaganda site anymore?
 
Duno. Sounds like a battery brand.

And OP, if you're complaining about this stuff here, what do you think that other place will be like? It's infested with that stuff.
Don't even mention ResetEra.
I got banned twice for weeks for posting an opinion on a rape case and saying Michelle Obama was hot for her age.
Can you believe it? Saying someone is hot got me a week ban. I consequently got multiple users jumping on me for that 'hot' comment saying i was objectifying women.
I do like that Neogaf allows you to ask Mods for the reason for being banned or something along those lines.

Also a thread like this IMO is a call for help or highlighting an issue. I don't see it as an attention seeking stunt. That is just my opinion. Please don't crucify me for it.
 

Ol'Scratch

Member
GAF has become a real shithole.
But watching this delusional reactionary circle jerk is kinda fascinating, like with a car crash, its hard to look away.
Also impressive to see how the misconduct allegations against Evilore caused him to lose any and all self respect, to the point that he now runs this shit show. Thats hilarious.
Oh lawd
 

Ornlu

Banned
Don't even mention ResetEra.
I got banned twice for weeks for posting an opinion on a rape case and saying Michelle Obama was hot for her age.
Can you believe it? Saying someone is hot got me a week ban. I consequently got multiple users jumping on me for that 'hot' comment saying i was objectifying women.
I do like that Neogaf allows you to ask Mods for the reason for being banned or something along those lines.

Also a thread like this IMO is a call for help or highlighting an issue. I don't see it as an attention seeking stunt. That is just my opinion. Please don't crucify me for it.

No crucifying; your opinion is well appreciated!:pie_raybans:
 
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What's so bad about it? It annoys me sometimes but I'm not sure why you think it's a 'shithole'.

Now 4chan is a shithole.

Everyone seems to be a sexist, racist, nationalist, climate change denier and obviously a Trump supporter or sympathizer.
This is not normal. I come from a country where people who hold such believes are on the far-right fringe of the political spectrum and looked down upon for being the idiots they are.
Its like the Youtube comment section in forum form.
 
Sorry to get all logically technical, but this is what we call an Appeal to Consequences. In this case, you're judging a game based on the desirability or undesirability of a possible outcome.

The statement above follows this form of the fallacy: "X is false because if people did not accept X as being false, then there would be negative consequences."

It totally ignores the merits of the game itself and again, just focuses on the character of certain people who play Game X.

The "merits". Haha, did you watch that trailer?
 

Saber

Member
100% deserved the ban and the tag.

Insulting anyone who plays the game, insinuating that they’re pedos and incels, implying that the users who disagree with you are also pedos and incels, etc.

I totally disagree with the name shaming. We are not Resetera neither stride to be like them.

But I do agree with the ban though. After reading his posts I sincerelly don't see the point of throwing accusations on people just because he don't like or feels like the game is wrong. That happens a LOT on Resetera if you're on the "right side" of argument(example, saying that all men deserve to die results in no punishment).
 

ROMhack

Member
Everyone seems to be a sexist, racist, nationalist, climate change denier and obviously a Trump supporter or sympathizer.
This is not normal. I come from a country where people who hold such believes are on the far-right fringe of the political spectrum and looked down upon for being the idiots they are.
Its like the Youtube comment section in forum form.

I sympathise. It's why I don't venture into the politics forum, although I don't know many forums where that isn't a filter these days.
 
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Papa

Banned
GAF has become a real shithole.
But watching this delusional reactionary circle jerk is kinda fascinating, like with a car crash, its hard to look away.
Also impressive to see how the misconduct allegations against Evilore caused him to lose any and all self respect, to the point that he now runs this shit show. Thats hilarious.

OP’s tag may not have been deserved but yours certainly was. Adios, creeper!
 

V4skunk

Banned
Requesting a permanent ban please.

A couple weeks ago I got a ban for making fun of a game where you play as these little animu fairies who secretly cause these (very young looking) girls to have orgasms. I said these kinds of games are targeted at pedos, incels, and shut-ins. Okay, whatever, fair enough.

Then the mod message said something like “the only shut in here is yourself”. Hurrrrr no. Hikikomori and “herbivore men” are a thing, and they’re the audience for these games, like it or not.

Then my tag changed to “tenuously links anime, pedophile and incels”. Uh no. I was specifically making fun of one stupid weeb game, not all anime. The fact that you’d take that as an attack on all anime says more about you than me.




Anyway this site has gone downhill quite a bit since the big exodus. Maybe single-digit percentage of the activity we used to see around here. I stuck around because I thought the accusations around Evilore were BS. But honestly I don’t get any value out of it anymore.

Probably nobody cares, but adios!
Have fun at resetera.
 

V4skunk

Banned
Everyone seems to be a sexist, racist, nationalist, climate change denier and obviously a Trump supporter or sympathizer.
This is not normal. I come from a country where people who hold such believes are on the far-right fringe of the political spectrum and looked down upon for being the idiots they are.
Its like the Youtube comment section in forum form.
Nothing wrong with being a Trump supporter, you are brainwashed by the msm. You only need to follow Trump's twitter account to see how much the msm twist and lie about what he says, a good recent example is the baltimore shit currently on the msm! Trump said baltimore is corrupt and needs investigating because it is a shit hole and receives among the highest funding in the entire country.
Also we don't deny climate change. We deny the lie that co2 is the cause.
Climate change science is a lie that doesn't even take into consideration the big burning ball of nuclear electric fire a hundred million miles away or what ever..
 
I totally disagree with the name shaming. We are not Resetera neither stride to be like them.

But I do agree with the ban though. After reading his posts I sincerelly don't see the point of throwing accusations on people just because he don't like or feels like the game is wrong. That happens a LOT on Resetera if you're on the "right side" of argument(example, saying that all men deserve to die results in no punishment).
Given some of his posts I've seen in topics long before any of this, I'm surprised he made it this long.
 
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