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UK: Death Stranding 2nd Biggest Launch of a New IP in 2019, sells 36% less than Days Gone

Abriael_GN

RSI Employee of the Year
Sales are certainly poor in comparison to other PS4 exclusives especially with the amount of push by Sony's marketing and Hideo Kojima at the helm of the project. People were expecting DS to be at least open around MGSV or above 100k with the amount of PS4 install-base in the UK and released in November.

You have a very weird idea of "poor sales" and likely self-serving considering your posting history.

These aren't poor sales at all, and considering that Death Stranding had a relatively short development cycle, I'm quite sure everyone at Sony considers this level of sales a big success for a new IP:
 

ROMhack

Member
Not that I've been looking but I haven't seen the game marketed much at all via retailers
 
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Not that I've been looking but I haven't seen the game marketed much at all via retailers

Prolly because it's not a man running around kicking a ball or man playing as shooting sand people in middle east. How do you market a game with beached whales?
 

woigemok

Banned
You have a very weird idea of "poor sales" and likely self-serving considering your posting history.

These aren't poor sales at all, and considering that Death Stranding had a relatively short development cycle, I'm quite sure everyone at Sony considers this level of sales a big success for a new IP:
We need to wait a statement from Sony before concluding that part. Being the lowest part of PS4 exclusives after a huge amount of marketing push and releasing in a busy period of sales month is certainly not helping. The development cycle isn't the only thing that takes up the resources, take a look at the Hollywood celebrities that Kojima's hired for his game and the AAA level of promotion(Conan talk show or something, Rick and Morty add, Time and Guardian magazine main pages, Energy Drink and etc) is certainly taking a huge amount of resources.

Prolly because it's not a man running around kicking a ball or man playing as shooting sand people in middle east. How do you market a game with beached whales?

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TLZ

Banned
It frustrates me when I read silly posts like “fedex simulator” and “postman simulator” because the game is far from that. Please, if you know nothing about the game do us all a service and just shut your mouth.
Doesn't hold a candle to Uber! Dudes have bikes in my area. Take that!
 
two pathetic games. congratulations gamers, your contributions have given us a boring industry with the "boring indie movie" equivalent video games being made in the AAA sphere. the fun is gone and apparently we have to make up our own fun in these "Artistic" "cinematic" pieces of shit.
 

Jtibh

Banned
But but but the PC version.
That will make up for all this.
Ps4 exclusive? Nah sony i am kojima and i demand pc release.
2 days after release.....i am kojima and i demand to teleport back in time so i can keep this as a ps4 exclusive so everyone will buy it cuz you cant play it anywhere else.
 

woigemok

Banned
So are you agreeing with him or???
Football isn't a boring sport and Fifa isn't a boring video game.

But but but the PC version.
That will make up for all this.
Ps4 exclusive? Nah sony i am kojima and i demand pc release.
2 days after release.....i am kojima and i demand to teleport back in time so i can keep this as a ps4 exclusive so everyone will buy it cuz you cant play it anywhere else.
I still confused why he decided to announce PC port a week before the release of the PS4 version from a commercial standpoint, plus the reviews the game has gotten not really lighting up the chart either.
 
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Roufianos

Member
Never thought in my mind the most hyped Kojima games with sony marketing only did roughly the same as Luigi Mansion 3 in UK.

Kojima's never really been a mainstream seller though. The MGS series is godlike among gamers but sold in the 5 - 7m range.

It frustrates me when I read silly posts like “fedex simulator” and “postman simulator” because the game is far from that. Please, if you know nothing about the game do us all a service and just shut your mouth.

The OP calling it a postman simulator is sarcasm. Why are you getting so worked up?
 
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woigemok

Banned
Yearly rehashes shouldn't sell that much Bang.
People like that game because it's enjoyable similar to other yearly stuff like COD and Pokemon. Those games sell so much because many people are enjoying the experience provided by those games the same reason can't be said to DS.
 

McCheese

Member
The adverts pushing it as some big AAA action game (here in the UK) had me worried about how many people will pick this up, and immediately hate it.

Its somewhat reassuring seeing these numbers, looks like folk are doing their research first.

Hope the game breaks even, but it's not the sort of title that will appeal to a wide audience and marketing it as such is a bit scummy.
 

Psykodad

Banned
Sales are certainly poor in comparison to other PS4 exclusives especially with the amount of push by Sony's marketing and Hideo Kojima at the helm of the project. People were expecting DS to be at least open around MGSV or above 100k with the amount of PS4 install-base in the UK and released in November.

Did you pay attention to the titles on the list? 7/9 on that list are among the best and most popular established franchises.
 

Kagey K

Banned
Again it’s only the UK and only boxed sales, it hardly tells us anything. These threads mean very little in the overall picture.

I've said in in previous threads and I will say it in future ones.

Until they can get digital sales (which they were supposed to do back in Feb) there isn’t much to be talked about,
 

Neff

Member
  1. Uncharted 4 : 192k (TUE release)
  2. Spider-Man : 190k (FRI)
  3. Horizon : 114k (WED)
  4. God of War : 96k (FRI)
  5. Uncharted TLL : 80k (WED)
  6. GT Sports : 74k (WED)
  7. Days Gone : 70k (FRI)
  8. inFamous SS : 69.6k (FRI)
  9. Death Stranding : 45k(FRI)

Death Stranding is by far the best game there.

Bloodborne is better than Death Stranding.

People were expecting DS to be at least open around MGSV

Only insane people were expecting a new IP to match the sales of part five in a mega series like Metal Gear.

Football isn't a boring sport

Yes it is.
 

Evilms

Banned
Days Gone ~ 72K
Death Stranding ~ 46K

Old Kojima games in UK :

MGS5 [2015] ~ 170K
MGS2 [2002] ~ 124K
MGS4 [2008] ~ 110K
MGS1 [1999] ~ 100K
MGS3 [2005] ~ 86K

Top 10 PS4 Exclusives UK (Retail)

1-Uncharted 4 A Thief's End ~ 192K (TUE)
2-Marvel's Spider-Man ~ 190K (FRI)
3-Horizon Zero Dawn ~ 114K (WED)
4-God Of War ~ 96K (FRI)
5-Uncharted The Lost Legacy ~ 80K (WED)
6-Gran Turismo Sport ~ 74K (WED)
7-Days Gone ~ 72K (FRI)
8-Infamous Second Son ~ 70K (FRI)
9-Death Stranding ~ 46K (FRI)
10-Bloodborne ~ 23K (TUE)
 

FranXico

Member
  1. Uncharted 4 : 192k (TUE release)
  2. Spider-Man : 190k (FRI)
  3. Horizon : 114k (WED)
  4. God of War : 96k (FRI)
  5. Uncharted TLL : 80k (WED)
  6. GT Sports : 74k (WED)
  7. Days Gone : 70k (FRI)
  8. inFamous SS : 69.6k (FRI)
  9. Death Stranding : 45k(FRI)
I love how you left out Bloodborne (which sold half of what DS did), just so you could correlate sales to quality. Brilliant.
 
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Bryank75

Banned
Not all about sales, I think this is just a project to allow Kojima some creative freedom and see if they can solidify a relationship between Kojipro and Sony. Hopefully anyway!

I mean, he can easily produce something mainstream and make a load of money.
 

DarkBatman

SBI’s Employee of the Year
People like that game because it's enjoyable similar to other yearly stuff like COD and Pokemon. Those games sell so much because many people are enjoying the experience provided by those games the same reason can't be said to DS.

We get it. You hate the game.
I love the game and enjoy it a lot. What do I care if "many people" enjoy it?
Several people seem to enjoy it. It's a very special and unique experience, clearly not made for the wide mainstream.
 

Kagey K

Banned
Yeah, that's right!
Come on, guys! Wait until it bombs everywhere. Then we can PAARTYYY!

/s
I don’t think anyone parties when a game bombs. There are a bunch of people that work their asses off to ship a title.

Some of us may not like certain games or not buy them themselves, but that doesn’t mean they want it to fail or Bomb.
 

Heinrich

Banned
if someone else would have made the same game, EVERYONE would shit on that game.. now its from kojima, so GOD FORBID say ANYTHING AGAINST kojima! HOW DARE YOU?!?!?

Not all about sales, I think this is just a project to allow Kojima some creative freedom and see if they can solidify a relationship between Kojipro and Sony. Hopefully anyway!

I mean, he can easily produce something mainstream and make a load of money.

oh really? would you say the same thing about xbox games?
 
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Ryu Kaiba

Member
Glad to hear it's doing well and Black Friday is coming up.

Wish people would stop posting all these "Tips for playing Death Stranding" or "What you should know before playing Death Stranding videos" Figuring it out for yourself is one of the best parts of the game.

Some people just want everything spelled out for them then they go into the game expecting everything that happens and knowing what to do and of course come out empty.
 

Kagey K

Banned
if someone else would have made the same game, EVERYONE would shit on that game.. now its from kojima, so GOD FORBID say ANYTHING AGAINST kojima! HOW DARE YOU?!?!?



oh really? would you say the same thing about xbox games?
I have multiple posts where he tries to use sales as the be all, end all. It would seem very hypocritical if he changed his stance now.
 

ROMhack

Member
Glad to hear it's doing well and Black Friday is coming up.

Wish people would stop posting all these "Tips for playing Death Stranding" or "What you should know before playing Death Stranding videos" Figuring it out for yourself is one of the best parts of the game.

Some people just want everything spelled out for them then they go into the game expecting everything that happens and knowing what to do and of course come out empty.

FIVE THINGS YOU MUST KNOW BEFORE EXISTING IN THE SAME UNIVERSE AS DEATH STRANDING!
 

DarkBatman

SBI’s Employee of the Year
Oh now it’s not all about sales?

It must be about player engagement and driving people to your product?

Hmmmmm. 🤪

I'm pretty sure it was a prestige thing for Sony, their trump card when it comes to discussions regarding "Giving developers the chance to create new innovative games".
There is no chance sales driven Sony employees would look at the game and go "Wow, this will be the ultimate mainstram game and sell millions".
 

Kagey K

Banned
I'm pretty sure it was a prestige thing for Sony, their trump card when it comes to discussions regarding "Giving developers the chance to create new innovative games".
There is no chance sales driven Sony employees would look at the game and go "Wow, this will be the ultimate mainstram game and sell millions".
I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt, but has it not been top billing as to why someone should get a PS4 in the last year? Everyone would say get it to play Spider-Man and God of War and then next year you can play Death Stranding.

I‘m very sure if I type Death Stranding in the search bar I can find a lot of people hyping it as the next coming of gaming.
 

DarkBatman

SBI’s Employee of the Year
I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt, but has it not been top billing as to why someone should get a PS4 in the last year? Everyone would say get it to play Spider-Man and God of War and then next year you can play Death Stranding.

I‘m very sure if I type Death Stranding in the search bar I can find a lot of people hyping it as the next coming of gaming.

You might be true. To be honest: I think both sides had their extremes in those discussions regarding the quality of the game.

I for once love it extremly, but I wouldn't go as far as to call it better suited for the mainstream as games like Spider-Man or God of War.
And I wouldn't attack anyone who just doesn't like Kojima or the gameplay and thus doesn't want to buy the game.
I just think it's a bit questionable if you pick out 2-3 review quotes to present your own opinion as the right one - and this goes for both sides.
 

Kagey K

Banned
You might be true. To be honest: I think both sides had their extremes in those discussions regarding the quality of the game.

I for once love it extremly, but I wouldn't go as far as to call it better suited for the mainstream as games like Spider-Man or God of War.
And I wouldn't attack anyone who just doesn't like Kojima or the gameplay and thus doesn't want to buy the game.
I just think it's a bit questionable if you pick out 2-3 review quotes to present your own opinion as the right one - and this goes for both sides.
Oh it gets much worse, just go into a thread comparing an Xbox One X game vs PlayStation Pro.

The racing game thread is a goldmine, it’s people trying to make other racing games look as bad as they can in order to show the other why their game is better.
 
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rofif

Can’t Git Gud
Not fair. .. It's a great unique game. I feel if it fail we will get more dotas and fortnites next time
 

Ryu Kaiba

Member
Ever hung around with one of those shallow extrovert types where the moment things start to get quiet they shove their head in their phone, in snapchat, in a weird way like they are afraid to be left with their own thoughts. That's what Death Stranding is to those people, its alone time. It doesn't distract them from their own mind so their reaction has been more than a calm dismissal. It's Anger. They want it dashed off the face of the earth they want everyone else to hate it with them and want no other games like it to come into existence because they can't handle isolation.
 

thelastword

Banned
two pathetic games. congratulations gamers, your contributions have given us a boring industry with the "boring indie movie" equivalent video games being made in the AAA sphere. the fun is gone and apparently we have to make up our own fun in these "Artistic" "cinematic" pieces of shit.
I'm sure there's a lot of what you like out there, go play those...….One game you don't like or perhaps have not even tried does
not make the whole industry boring...
 

FranXico

Member
It must sell well like days gone. We need more Unique games and more single player games. I dont play lootbox games and mp games so in fact I get only few games to play each year
I don't think it will sell like Days Gone, because it is more niche.
 
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