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Scopa

Scopa

The Tribe Has Spoken
As a Nintendo fan, I’ve had to listen to dimwits tell me I play kids games for decades.

Just roll with the punches. Point and laugh. Know that anyone thinking they are “more mature” by engaging in console wars is hilariously contradictory. Give it back, but don’t stoop to their level.

Those people are never going to not exist. Idiots gonna idiot.
 
brap

brap

Banned
Scopa said:
As a Nintendo fan, I’ve had to listen to dimwits tell me I play kids games for decades.
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They are literally made for children though. I don't see why people like you can't just accept that. Your nintendo games and shitty disney movies are all made for kids.
 
Papa

Papa

Banned
brap said:
They are literally made for children though. I don't see why people like you can't just accept that. Your nintendo games and shitty disney movies are all made for kids.
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What console do you propose I take with me when I have to travel for work?
 
brap

brap

Banned
Not surprised the nintoddlers can't admit what they like is for kids. So full of insecurity.
So is this one matthew or little scopey?
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Scopa

Scopa

The Tribe Has Spoken
brap said:
Not surprised the nintoddlers can't admit what they like is for kids. So full of insecurity.
So is this one matthew or little scopey?
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Jesus Christ brap, that picture’s older than the internet. UP YOUR GAME, CHILD.
 
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nush

nush

Member
brap said:
Yeah, and so are you.
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STFU kid, you'd be in the fetal position within 5 damn minutes of you losing your WIFI connection and/or your phone. You'd fail to even find the local convenience store or take a shit without them.
 
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Yoshi

Yoshi

Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
brap said:
They are literally made for children though. I don't see why people like you can't just accept that. Your nintendo games and shitty disney movies are all made for kids.
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Maybe some whiney 20-something console warrior child may enjoy something like this last level of Super Mario 3D World:


But most would probably be too whiney for that. I think it is unlikely these games are exclusively aimed at children though. Your non-stop console warring is more than slightly tiresome.
 
brap

brap

Banned
Yoshi said:
Maybe some whiney 20-something console warrior child may enjoy something like this last level of Super Mario 3D World:


But most would probably be too whiney for that. I think it is unlikely these games are exclusively aimed at children though. Your non-stop console warring is more than slightly tiresome.
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They're childrens games. What's wrong with admitting that? I like DBZ. DBZ is for japanese kids. So what?
 
Nikana

Nikana

Go Go Neo Rangers!
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I get you, but is banning such posters for sure the best way to handle them? Are there any flow on effects from encouraging banning as a corrective force? Are there any other methods that are potentially more effective, e.g. fostering a culture within the community that claps back (for lack of a better term) and disincentivizes such posts in future? For example, look at this thread last week from a returning Reeflake trying to own the alt-right: https://www.neogaf.com/threads/idio...quote-from-trump-thats-up-for-debate.1516726/. It has the obnoxious emoji spam you describe but the community mocked OP, established his position towards the bottom of the social hierarchy, and laughed him out of the thread. A mod even changed the title to reflect his special status on the short bus. I think that’s more effective than just banning him outright and we get to have fun at his expense.

This is similar to what I mean when I talk about false civility. People will always learn ways to subvert any system and trying to moderate based on mean words just tilts the playing field in favour of other undesirable behaviours like baiting/trolling/dishonesty. Look at the Politics sub: some of the most “civil” posters are also the most dishonest. I think in terms of moderation it’s best to leave most forms of speech/discourse on the table and let it sort itself out organically. Sometimes the best way to deal with a dishonest troll is to insult/mock them, but you can’t do that if mean words are banned. Then the trolling spirals out of control because you’ve removed its natural predator from the ecosystem.

TL;DR instead of requesting more bans (top-down authoritarian moderation), learn how to shut the behaviours down yourself (bottom-up peer moderation).
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I think somewhere in the middle is the answer. The problem for me is that the blocking solution actually favors the people who are shit posting. Because they block the people who challenge them but continue to post and respond to people still filling threads with garbage. I have done my best to call people out on their bullshit posts but eventually all they have to do is block me and then then continue on their merry way shit posting.

Theres people that I can call out by name and feel the difference between someone being a dick for the sake of being a dick and someone who's just being stubborn because they don't like something. To me there's a difference with that and in my experience the people just being hard headed will at least not be trolly and be dismissive vs being a trolly dick that dances around the "rules" to not get banned.

At the very least temp bans need to happen imo. For the sake of at least getting some clarity on the person and seeing if they will actually come back in a more civil manner or will continue to just be a troll. Because if they want to actually have discussions about gaming and debate in a healthy way they will change their attitude. And if they don't then it will be clear and we can get them to leave for good.

I haven't been in the politics thread so I cannot comment on that but from my experience in there to me its a different beast as politics in general cause different types of discussions VS video games.
 
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SLoWMoTIoN

Unconfirmed Member
Sometimes I want to use the report feature when even I think all a user (they) does is lowtierposting everyweek. But that would just give a user the idea they got to me or something. Then I think (ponder even!) about the fun bans we have had here and would rather they provide entertainment. Is that wrong?
 
Papa

Papa

Banned
SLoWMoTIoN said:
Sometimes I want to use the report feature when even I think all a user (they) does is lowtierposting everyweek. But that would just give a user the idea they got to me or something. Then I think (ponder even!) about the fun bans we have had here and would rather they provide entertainment. Is that wrong?
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Why is that one I a different font?
 
BadBurger

BadBurger

Is 'That Pure Potato'
I remember when Bishop was mass banning people. I was just a lurker back then, but it was obvious what was going on. That guy has serious issues.

He also can't write for shit. Have you read his summary for that dinosaur book? Lol. It's literally like a middle schooler wrote it.
 
Mista

Mista

Banned
BadBurger said:
I remember when Bishop was mass banning people. I was just a lurker back then, but it was obvious what was going on. That guy has serious issues.

He also can't write for shit. Have you read his summary for that dinosaur book? Lol. It's literally like a middle schooler wrote it.
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Why don’t you contact Tyler to get your old account back?
 
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