StreetsofBeige
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I can't believe TLZ's pastebin dumpathon from the spring about double gpus is still kicking around.
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bitbydeath
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It isn’t, that is referencing the AMD Github leak.
Fake
Member
No. Sony is Apple? Is Sony current consoles are expensive?
sonomamashine
Member
YOUR DEALER NOW !
Tiago07
Member
Yes It's a possibility, me for example came here by the next gen subject. But I had read the thread in Era until his ban and I think he will give a time until the PS5 official realese in February.
Rightisright
Banned
Since Matt said he thinks XSX will be more powerful than PS5 he is no longer considered a legit source of inside info. Klee is now the only credible insider.
Rightisright
Banned
The latest console tech put out by both companies has MS with the far more effective, and quiet, cooling system.
Do you think the people who designed the 360 (which was a far better designed system than PS3) are now doing the XSX? Or do you think the guys who did the one X are more likely to be doing it?
CuriousToe
Member
Who said this? Or are you spewing your regular nonsense.
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HeisenbergFX4
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Rightisright
Banned
Go back and read the posts where Matt was being dismissed as knowing what the specs were and was only guessing. Before you spew that nonsense you just did.
OsirisBlack
Banned
So we just might get to see the stars.GTAVI getting prepped for PS5 reveal next month?
100% guarantee that you won't have to repurchase Ghosts of Tsushima or The Last of Us 2.
11.6 / 12.4 my guesses.
Edited to add 11.4 could happen but I have not heard anything about a change a simple adjustment either way will shift the number. Can't see why MS would lower the clock speed.
Already stated and still stand firmly Xbox will have a very strong games library.
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Darklor01
Might need to stop sniffing glue
10.76458 vs . 11.4? I know nothing of FLOPS Jon Snow.
demigod
Member
God damnit nobody got this, GAF ya'll suck!!!
TherapistGaymer
Banned
I mean look at how they seem to be getting first dibs here.... https://www.techradar.com/amp/news/...nk-of-flash-storage-and-dram-market-this-year
CuriousToe
Member
Ah, so you're cherry picking posts to try to paint the situation in a certain light. Did you read my response to your Matt/Klee nonsense the other day? It's not Klee vs Matt as you've been suggesting.
CuriousToe
Member
Explain it to mean like I'm 5 please.
Rightisright
Banned
To be honest I skim through fanboys posts most of the time. Probably missed it.
Insane Metal
Member
God of War PS5 incoming.
Imtjnotu
Member
God Fall is the final version of God of War
Osiris ? Did you like the new Rare game ? Everwild seems
Do you remember a game like Wild from Michel Ansel ?)
I advise you to refresh your memory. Soon everyone will remember her again)
Just thinking out loud
CuriousToe
Member
Ah yes, the old fanboy accusation trick. Okay then.
lol
bitbydeath
Member
Rochestar!?
I thought you were previously hinting at the devs Sony was looking to buy.
ethomaz
Banned
What he means with Shaders array?Both ARE GPU’s, there’s still images on the net as proof.
Because if that is Shader Engine then it needs 2 for 36CUs... 4 Shader Engine put you at 80 max CUs.
Edit - They changed the Shader Array in RDNA.... now it has 2 Shader Array per Shader Engine... in GCN it was 1 to 1.
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demigod
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He said Sony can do whatever as long as they show him stars. Today pushsquare writes about Rockstar.
devilNprada
Member
Do you ever get tired?
saintjules
Member
GTAVI at launch will do that.
Don’t forget this was also stated.
PS5 is all about "hardcore gamers who obsess over the latest features" according to new report
PS5 is "a niche product aimed at serious players"www.gamesradar.com
A game like GTA VI would immediately make early adopters come out of the forest. And if it's timed exclusive? Dangerous!
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Gold Member
Personally hope they go with 18Gbps chips (Samsung's 2GB chips are at that amount); would give around 576 GB/s bandwidth on a 256-bit bus.
If they can't do that, at least 16Gbps chips for 512 GB/s. 448 GB/s bandwidth with 14Gbps chips just feels a tad low, but I guess we'll see. RAM amount and Gbps are two things that can actually be altered this late in the game, up to a limit (if Sony really wanted to they could cram 32GB with 16x 2GB chips in clamshell mode, although that'd be crazy expensive and they'd still have to alter the memory controller and cooling solution anyway (let alone probably need a bigger motherboard or a more complicated one to put the other half of the chips on the underside).
Likewise I hope XSX is going with 18Gbps chips; that could give them 720 GB/s on a 320-bit bus or (if they're using a 384-bit bus) 864 GB/s. But given the extra cost they have to pay over Sony for needing more memory chips they'd probably settle for 16Gbps chips as the upper limit, or 768 GB/s upper limit bandwidth (if 384-bit bus).
With them going 40 CUs and all active, I think they might cut the GPU frequency off at around 1970-1975MHz. For between 10.08TF - 10.11TF.
They just better have a damn good cooling solution and build quality.
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OsirisBlack
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I would like to say and directly (no riddles) the newest information I got was that both of these systems are Close, Close enough to be twins just not identical. The biggest differences will be custom features and things like playing PS4 games with no load times or terrain pop in. Have to admit my tech knowledge is baffled at how the SSD will remove terrain pop in but I cannot wait to see it.
CuriousToe
Member
And when you say close, who do you believe has these advantage?
ethomaz
Banned
From what I understand pop in happens when the HDD can’t supply the RAM fast enough to GPU use the data.
Just the use of SSD basically kills it at least decrescesse a lot pop in.
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Self High Five
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Would you guess that the CPU in Series X is clocked higher? And would you also guess that both systems will have the same type & amount of RAM?
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Imtjnotu
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And do you still stand by ps5 being the stronger of the two?
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CameFromNearFuture
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Rightisright
Banned
Well that was random.
Insane Metal
Member
Ass Creed.
No matter what I assume the chips are down clocked a little. With these being 7 year devices both should go with the faster ram. The prices will go and saving I doubt be much in a couple of years when the bulk of the sales come.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Gold Member
Can you give some reasoning/guesses into some of the rumors XSX will be closer to 11.4-11.5 TF? I've thought about it myself and the only explaination would be them being overly conservative. The clock would be as low as around 1600MHz, either that or they're disabling more than 4 CUs (maybe upwards 8CUs).
Both of those don't add up given the system itself looks like it should be able to cool a GPU clocked higher than 1600MHz sufficiently. But maybe that's just me :S
Interesting. I thought chip frequency wouldn't affect the bandwidth, i.e the bandwidth per pin is a fixed spec. I remember doing bandwidth calculations a while ago factoring in the RAM speed and wondering why my bandwidth totals were off. Well that was the reason. But RAM speed does affect the GPU's effective memory clock which affects the TF performance, is that perhaps what you're referring to?
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Clintizzle
Lord of Edge.
No thank you. I'll stick to PC.
OsirisBlack
Banned
Óðinn
5 > Red as far as I am told nothing has changed. I have heard that there is MUCH more wiggle room with clock speeds on the MS side so all of that issues with cooling, don't believe that shit at all.
demigod
Member
If there's more wiggle room, why only 11.6 then? Couldn't they just upclock and beat the 5?
OsirisBlack
Banned
Just because you can raise clock speeds doesn't mean that you should. Also it would probably be best to release conservative see what happens when millions of consoles are in peoples homes then raise clock speeds if needed through firmware patches. No one wants another RROD situation.
Never understood posts like this, Check the old PC pictures threads. I game on PC also have been playing games at native 4k /60fps for years now. I still love consoles.
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CuriousToe
Member
Help me out here. The odin reference - is it AC or GOW5 related - or both?
Probably don't want to even take a chance at a repeat of the RROD. The one S had a huge box with big cooler. Same with the series X they are gun shy as hell after a billion dollar bath.
demigod
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Oh btw when you mention this, are you talking about at the reveal next month or around E3 time?
saintjules
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vpance
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We also don't know how efficient their cooling setup actually is. Sure it's big, but what is the TDP? And how hot does it get? They do want the system to remain quiet after all. There's a bunch of factors why upclocking to beat PS5 may not be worth it for them.
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