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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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TLZ

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Hawking Radiation said:
What is going on?

Why is everyone almost convinced that something is happening tomorrow? Its 2nd March here in NZ

How can a plannes PS5 reveal just suddenly pop up in the last day or so and be happening in a day?

WTF guys. I dont want blue balls again FFS
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Maybe we'll have to wait for 4th March in Oceania for 3rd in US.
 
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Matreios Raven said:
‘Logic:’

Github reveals XBOX is 12 TFLOPS
At the same time Github reveals a chip that may be PS5 or a dev kit is 9.2 TF

XBOX is 12 TF

Therefore, PS5 GPU is 9.2 TF
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For all I know it could be the prev version of the same MSFT devkit. I remember strong rumors that "next xbox" is 9 tf. Even from people who don't talk shit.
 
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Bo_Hazem said:
I didn't find Sonic game either, I lived far from the capital at that time, probably that's the reason. Streets of Rage is one of my favorites! Me, my older brother and my older sister are waiting for the new Streets of Rage 4 if you didn't notice it, You hear the iconic soundtrack at the beginning here:



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Now that game brings back memories. The first one was one of my favourite games back in the day. I feel they could have done much better with this remake.

DrDamn said:
So you are saying XSX isn't full RDNA2 then? Interesting.
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Gavin Stevens Gavin Stevens has been saying something similar too regarding RDNA2, that the consoles are like RDNA1.5 ish
 
FeiRR

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X-Fighter said:
Not in my book, but that's a semantics discussion so we'll just agree to disagree. I'm just saying that it's not weird Microsoft hasn't shown games for the XSX yet since they wait for their own event.
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Would you say it was weird for them to reveal the console this early then? I mean, they must have a reason.
 
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FeiRR said:
Would you say it was weird for them to reveal the console this early then? I mean, they must have a reason.
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That's just a marketing strategy to build hype. Slowly release bits of information every few weeks until you have an actual event where you disclose all the details and show stuff. I don't think it's weird that they haven't shown games yet, and I wouldn't hyperbole it into Microsoft having no games.
 
DrDamn

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CrustyBritches said:
Speaking of joysticks, this probably my favorite of all time from Amiga...
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Konix Speedking was my favourite too. A mighty fine joystick.
 
Hawking Radiation

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TLZ said:
Maybe we'll have to wait for 4th March in Oceania for 3rd in US.
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Yeah that sucks even more.
But how likely is something to happen though??
I'm getting hyped for something cause I see a whole buncha people getting hyped in here for some reason.

Has any of the reliable insiders hinted anything?
 
TLZ

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Hawking Radiation said:
Yeah that sucks even more.
But how likely is something to happen though??
I'm getting hyped for something cause I see a whole buncha people getting hyped in here for some reason.

Has any of the reliable insiders hinted anything?
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I think it was Kojima's tweet. And before that a leak somehwere, maybe pastebin.
 
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DJ12 said:
Red e is all I care about.
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Maybe that's just "ready", or something Nintendo related, but I wouldn't care about these riddles if I was you. You'll know when they want you to know. It's fun that insiders share information with us, but these riddles are just attention seeking methods, and I would ignore it if I was you.
 
DrDamn

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o'dium said:
I think half the people in this thread are about to commit sudoku, and the other half are going to gloat so hard I’m going to want to punch my phone. Regardless of which side is which, it is...
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If it goes the way of GitHub then those people will gain gloating rights, if it doesn't then they simply claim they were just messing, knew all along, and wasn't it all a jolly jape?
 
Dodkrake

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Hi everybody. Been following this thread for a while and all the buzz from the PS5 / Xbox has led me to finally create an account in Neogaf.

First and foremost, I am not an insider, nor I claim to know anything regarding the new generation of consoles. I'm merely providing a comment based on my software background. I currently work for a software developer not related to game dev, even though I have one contact in Rockstar (no, no inside info from them). What I do know is about software and hardware development cycles, and how things work in the background, so I do hope my experience provides some context to some of the supposed leaks we've been seeing for a while.

I'd like to outline what should be relatively simple to understand, but seems to be causing some confusion across a few members in this thread: Nothing is set in stone. Yes, it is true that most software and hardware will have long development cycles, especially the later, but one must consider a few things:

1. Lot's of testing takes place
2. Goals are more likely to change early in development / prototyping
3. Refinements occur during the whole development lifecycle.

With that said, I believe the GitHub leak is true, however it does not tell the full story. The unit listed in those leaks shows a 9.2TF chip with no Ray Tracing, however we know now that a) the PS5 has Ray Tracking and b) It's hardware based, per Sony's previous reveal. This, coupled with AMD's own product roadmap that lists HW RT being an RDNA2 capability, leads me to believe that the PS5 chip is not the same Sony is working with now.

I think it's way more likely that Sony was testing regression to clear up if HW emulation would be feasible and wasn't even testing the new RT implementation, with Oberon likely being a proof of concept. We were talking about a 1/2/3 ratio between CU and PS4/PS4pro/PS5, but it actually would make sense that some CU's were disabled and that the ration is 1/2/4.

Just my 2 cents, please don't fight over this stuff. It's consoles, games, and I'm sure we'll have two "equally" powered consoles that will provide us with amazing content for the next few years.
 
Gudji

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DynamiteCop! said:
So remember the old rumors/leaks from Reiner about Scarlett and PS5 being close in power about 9 months ago, but the PS5 was more powerful and that narrative went on for months?

Well apparently the PlayStation 5 was/is that 9.2 Teraflops which we've seen popping up left and right now and the Xbox was speculated as being in the mid to upper 8 Teraflop range which has credence because the devkits at the time were just cobbled together as noted numerous times but things might change.

Remember this?



This would also give credence to all the rumors that followed where it was said that they were "close in performance".

Microsoft coming out at 12 Teraflops was that surprise, the devkits which were circulating were severely preliminary which created the narrative of them being like minded systems. They're not.
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The surprise is related to the TGAs announcement it has nothing to do with devkits.
Matt on era already said it would be stupid to mislead your partners (studios and publishers) that are making videogames to your platform without the "real specs" just because MS wanted to suprise Sony.
IIRC his words were something like: "that's pretty silly", "devs are given target specs when they 1st receive devkits".

We know for a fact that MS target was already 12 TF, Albert Penello confirmed it on era last week.
We've also been hearing that sony console is slightly ahead of XSX since E3 last year, so that means they're close in power even if MS took the lead or something.

People wanting a 3 TF difference between them are going to have an hard time. I'll say what I've been saying for a while, both will be within 15% of each other at max, which at the end is not a significant difference.
 
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Bo_Hazem

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CuriousToe said:
This is a ridiculous line of discussion. There is no evidence or reason to believe that anyone ever thought the PS5 devkit was ahead of a theoretical (or non existent) 8tf Xbox. The only way that makes sense is if PS5 was being compared to Lockhart, and would still be crazy because of course the next flagship console from Sony would be ahead of a low spec, budget focused console.
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Well said, CuriousToe 🙌

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