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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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Oh shit it's happening next week isn't it?

Super Bowl
Judging by where he is I think I know what he's there for and it's not for Sony. But an event MS is holding this weekend in NYC.

playcrafting and microsoft are holding a game jam from Friday to Sunday that includes talks from developers
 

Gavin Stevens

Formerly 'o'dium'
Speaking of disembodied voices that bloody Xbox “world premieeeeeeeeeer” voice does my head in 🤣

Last time it was amazing because they had so many exclusives and premiers but by the end of the night my wife was even saying things to me in his voice... ugh... it’s not sexy...
 

TLZ

Banned
See you SOON (sorry, I couldn't contain myself).

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hemo memo

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I'm not against the idea of a State of Play revealing the console, I'm just against it being executed as flaccidly as past State of Plays. If they're going the SoP route, they need to have Cerny on screen and explaining the hardware, game devs personally introducing their upcoming titles, etc. Not the same disembodied voice that we've been hearing, because she sounds way too robotic and sterile.

Cerny and a bathtub background please.
 

RaySoft

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is there any kind of reasoning why Sony would have two GPUs tested?

For this to make sense for a dual GPU rumor...would one be with a CPU, and one without (but perhaps more RT)?

May only make sense if Sony has a dual console strategy (Base and Pro at launch)
I can assure you that the PS5 won't have dual GPU's.
Shu said that devs are praising the PS5 as the easiest to develop for yet, and the PS4 was a simple system, so that excludes any exotic type hardware. Expect a simple but well-rounded design.
 
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Deleted member 775630

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Wonder what the pricing will be on this console. I think Microsoft at first was planning to sandwich Sony. Lockhart < PS5 < XSX, but due to last leaks it seems more and more that it will be: Lockhart < PS5=XSX on pricing. I think high-end consoles will be $500, but what will Lockhart be then... $300 or $350?
 

GeorgPrime

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If you can extract data out of something that's comparable to a limp dick, muscle wise, you certainly got some great tech on your hands:p

Edit: SERIOUSLY, how old is that girl on the far right there? Disgusting commercial.
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What the... and the girl is licking a lolipop while playing the game? Come on.... thats fake or? I mean... why do you put in a small girl licking a lolipop in a commrcial for a game that you play with your vagina?
 
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What the... and the girl is licking a lolipop while playing the game? Come on.... thats fake or? I mean... why do you put in a small girl licking a lolipop in a commrcial for a game that you play with your vagina?

Yikes!...this whole sexualization of kids is really starting to bother me. As a father who is about to have my first baby girl, this is disturbing. 🤦‍♂️
 
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Deleted member 775630

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Jesus MS just ditch Lockheart and take the L... NOBODY wants it, even devs are telling you its a waste of time and money... Just put all that Lockheart money left into a pot and go do some research on the SX Pro for a few years time...
Not sure that nobody would want it. If you can market the Lockhart as a next-gen console, then it will probably do pretty well. Currently the OneS and PS4 also outsell the OneX and PS4 Pro.
 

Gavin Stevens

Formerly 'o'dium'
Not sure that nobody would want it. If you can market the Lockhart as a next-gen console, then it will probably do pretty well. Currently the OneS and PS4 also outsell the OneX and PS4 Pro.

If they can position it to be priced in a sweet spot, and have the console essentially do everything the other ones can but just at 1080p resolution then sure.

But this is the same MS who just released the xbox one SAD. I mean, even without the utterly dreadful name, look how much the damn thing was... The only reason it sold as well as it did was because everybody was discounting it to get shot of the damn thing...

By now, the Xbox One S should have hit £99.99 and the Xbox One X should be £199.99 tops. Its crazy how much they are selling things for, especially the S. This gives me ZERO hope that if they do release Lockheart, it wont be priced at some utterly stupid thing. I could honestly see the next gen consoles hitting £499.99 and the lockeheart being £449.99 just because...
 

Neo Blaster

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I just prefer old fashioned conferences since it’s a live event as opposed to something already filmed.

To be honest, does it make any difference to anyone watching a video? What would you miss, a bunch of journalists cheering? Just gimme Cerny talking about the damn thing and I'm done. And like I said before, they could do it replacing the PS Meeting and near E3 do a full fledged event.
 
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Jesus MS just ditch Lockheart and take the L... NOBODY wants it, even devs are telling you its a waste of time and money... Just put all that Lockheart money left into a pot and go do some research on the SX Pro for a few years time...

I’m quite sure lockheart will never come to the market. And if it will it will fail espectacular..
 

PocoJoe

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34% of people think the new consoles will be on par the a 2080 Super :messenger_tears_of_joy::messenger_tears_of_joy::messenger_tears_of_joy:

Well, PC master race people usually forgot closed system vs. PC World.

I think it is possible to get 2080 perf from console with less performance because of being closed system = getting more out of the hardware.

It would be stupid to assume that to get to 2080 level console must be literally at same tflop level.

Also different/newer RT = could be even faster than nvidia.

So laughing before all specs are revealed just makes you look silly
 

darkinstinct

...lacks reading comprehension.
Klee was verified by Zhuge and Hecht. Both mods on resetera. Zhuge doesn't just verify anyone.

You realize how verification works? He just had to prove that he is who he says he is. Which in his case is former journalist. Based on that, mods decided that he would be in a position to get the knowledge he claims to have (know a dev, basically).
 

ANIMAL1975

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To me it looks like that "low speed" part was referrencing SSD, and not entire dev kit, as entire paragraph was about SSD and loading times - hence low speed.
You got it backwards, the low-speed devkit has a fast SSD inside. As it’s what they’re using to show off the load times.
Dunno, sounds to me he is talking about SSD there, but we will have to wait and see.
Here, just focus on this part.
Cerny does the same test on the silver tower devkit and reduces load times to 0.8 of a second.



What do you think of this Insane?! Lol im completely lost.

No, I'm not a native English speaker (Barcelona). It is the native Google Translator syntax :messenger_grinning_sweat:
Abrazo fuerte de Portugal para nuestros hermanos ay!
 

darkinstinct

...lacks reading comprehension.
I'm going to go with the theory that those chips are being repurposed for PS Now. Considering it looks like the original 2019 launch rumor seemingly has some validity to it, I just don't see them greatly upgrading the CPU and most likely moving from HDD to SSD, but leaving the GPU as is, only slightly upclocking it.
PS Now is using Azure going forward. There will be no Sony hardware in MS server centers. That's like the whole point of moving to Microsoft, so that they don't have to spend money on the hardware.
 

darkinstinct

...lacks reading comprehension.
Bunch of BS. They would never build a Lockhart with a) higher CPU clock speeds than XSX and b) a completely different memory setup. Lockhart would have the same unified RAM as XSX, just less of it. It would have the same SSD, just a smaller size. It would have the same CPU, just clocked lower. It would have the same GPU, just clocked lower.
 

ethomaz

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PS Now is using Azure going forward. There will be no Sony hardware in MS server centers. That's like the whole point of moving to Microsoft, so that they don't have to spend money on the hardware.
PS3 games in PS Now run on PS3 cluster servers not in Azure.
Azure is more for PS4 games and forward.

Each server has 8 custom PS3 units.

That won’t change in the near future if change at all.
 
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xool

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You realize how verification works? He just had to prove that he is who he says he is. Which in his case is former journalist. Based on that, mods decided that he would be in a position to get the knowledge he claims to have (know a dev, basically).

Kleegamefan's case shows just how dumb this "forum insider" thing is :

What he saw : A cross platform next gen game video (not sure if live gameplay)

What he tells about : Next gen specs

Rhetorical : Why not tell us about the game - you know - the only thing you actually have first hand info on ..
 
I hope Klee is right, but her credibility will be badly damaged. I still trust Klee but it's true that right now there aren't many signs for optimism. The movements of Sony these last two years in terms of marketing are strange .... it is very simple if something works do not change it. It is not so difficult to copy the PS4 strategy right? Well, this new Sony seems determined to find other ways ... I hope it works.
 
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hemo memo

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I’m convinced Tommy Fisher is actually Foxy Games UK

So basically the same person is doing GAF>>Internet>>GAF


I hope Klee is right, but her credibility will be badly damaged. I still trust his words but it is true that right now there are not many signs for optimism. The movements of Sony these last two years in terms of marketing are strange .... it is very simple if something works do not change it. It is not so difficult to copy the PS4 strategy right? Well, this new Sony seems determined to find other ways ... I hope it works.

I’m confused
 
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sinnergy

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Jesus MS just ditch Lockheart and take the L... NOBODY wants it, even devs are telling you its a waste of time and money... Just put all that Lockheart money left into a pot and go do some research on the SX Pro for a few years time...
On this forum .... reality check mate 😝
 
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