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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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Moridianae

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GTA6 being a major release to usher in the next generation is probably true. However, that leak that said Sony shelled out the dough for exclusivity? Bollocks, as they say.

They paid out the nose(I'm fairly sure) for 1 year of FFVIIR. No way they(or MS) would pay what Rockstar probably would ask for exclusivity, much moreso the fact that Rockstar would most likely never go for that.

Exclusive to any platform for GTAVI would literally end any kind of "console war". That platform would amass an insurmountable install base due to it and automatically "win". Besides, R* makes more money on all systems.
 
PaintTinJr

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Physiognomonics said:
That memory bandwidth fits with Oberon A0 bandwidth (512GB/s). But we know it got improved with B0 (maybe 550GB/s) and there is also the last model E0. I wouldn't worry about it.
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The bandwidth per gigabyte on PS4 Pro was (220/8) = 27.5GB/s per GB iirc. This suggested memory bandwidth would be in a best case scenario (550/16) = 34.3GB/s per GB, or less on PS5. Considering the upclocks on the CPU cores from Jaguar to Zen 2 in PS5, along with the expected use of GDDR6 which would increase memory bandwidth too. It doesn’t look like the cost increase from GDDR5 to 6 makes sense (IMHO), as for such a small memory bandwidth increase they could stick with GDDR5 and pay for a secondary APU and get a bigger combined bandwidth boost from both pools, and provide more memory and compute to the system overall, for GDDR6 use I'd be expecting atleast 750GB/s.
 
M-V2

M-V2

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Smoke6 said:
really? Like how so?

wait let me guess... because they haven’t released the info like you would want them too?

you really think after all these years they do t know what they’re doing? Ok?!
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You guessed it wrong my friend, I was talking about their games, they're releasing their games on PC randomly, now as a customer I wanna know what's their strategy going forward? Are they gonna make their games timed exclusives like (death Stranding, predator & hzd) or what? Just want them to clear things out, I don't wanna spend my money knowing nothing about their strategy. No more no less.
 
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Physiognomonics

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PaintTinJr said:
The bandwidth per gigabyte on PS4 Pro was (220/8) = 27.5GB/s per GB iirc. This suggested memory bandwidth would be in a best case scenario (550/16) = 34.3GB/s per GB, or less on PS5. Considering the upclocks on the CPU cores from Jaguar to Zen 2 in PS5, along with the expected use of GDDR6 which would increase memory bandwidth too. It doesn’t look like the cost increase from GDDR5 to 6 makes sense (IMHO), as for such a small memory bandwidth increase they could stick with GDDR5 and pay for a secondary APU and get a bigger combined bandwidth boost from both pools, and provide more memory and compute to the system overall, for GDDR6 use I'd be expecting atleast 750GB/s.
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With architecture improvement, they should need less BW. RDNA1 at 9-10 tflops is OK with only 448GB/s (I know without the CPU but still). And on consoles devs can better manage BW.
 
DeepEnigma

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zubairali2 said:
where did osiris black go? :(
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DaGamez said:
I know, we need more game riddles along with the pigeon hardware riddles. I suck at deciphering any of it, but it still helps when others do. :messenger_tears_of_joy:

He shouldn't be taking personal time, we need this info.

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JK, it's possible he has just run out of news at the moment. I'm sure he'll be back with something SOON.
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He’s probably filming. He does work in the movie industry, and sometimes it can get very demanding with crazy hours.
 
PaintTinJr

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Physiognomonics said:
With architecture improvement, they should need less BW. RDNA1 at 9-10 tflops is OK with only 448GB/s (I know without the CPU but still). And on consoles devs can better manage BW.
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RT will in theory tax memory harder than anything we've ever seen before. I'll be pretty shocked if memory bandwidth isn't the primary bottleneck by the 2 or 3rd gen of software releases in the coming gen.
 
DeepEnigma

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o'dium said:
Sorry but I just saw this reply on the official Horizon twitter post about it coming to PC and loved it:



But this one was pure cringe:

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Homeboy will be launching it on @.Steam because even the most ardent fanboys know deep down that @.Windows store is jank.
 
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David Ricardo

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VFXVeteran said:
I will never mention a single unofficial released rumor on these boards again. And that includes games coming out. I'm not here for leaking shit. I did that and look where it got me. You can just treat me like any other normal gamer on these boards from here on.
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Well, you 'leaked' information that was obviously false even to people without inside knowledge. Also, you are like the only supposed insider that still thinks PS5 is 9.2TF while all other insiders have said github information is not final PS5.
 
VanSiriusGabriel

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Moridianae said:
GTA6 being a major release to usher in the next generation is probably true. However, that leak that said Sony shelled out the dough for exclusivity? Bollocks, as they say.

They paid out the nose(I'm fairly sure) for 1 year of FFVIIR. No way they(or MS) would pay what Rockstar probably would ask for exclusivity, much moreso the fact that Rockstar would most likely never go for that.

Exclusive to any platform for GTAVI would literally end any kind of "console war". That platform would amass an insurmountable install base due to it and automatically "win". Besides, R* makes more money on all systems.
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Yes, there is nothing comparable to GTA V in this industry, up to 2018 it was at 90 milions copies and generated 6 billions in revenues, now it's 120 millions (so even now manage to sell like 20 millions copies every year, it's absurd) and revenue are gonna hit 10 millions someday maybe, don't have data about this. It was the game with the highest budget with 250 millions, and it did 800 in 24 hours. I repeat: in one day got more than three times what it costed, and it costed like a LOT.
Now, what could GTA VI be? You need one month, one fucking month of exclusivity, you're gonna win the generation almost automatically, no joke. Even after, people are gonna still move to that platform due to friends and online, and so the friends of those friends.
This is what such a deal worths and I just can't believe MS or Sony pulled it off, if so the other one should just fucking retire.
 
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Darklor01

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Koopatrol said:
He also had this post:



I remember some of us trying to figure out the meaning. No definitive consensus though.
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“What is a Skinner box and what is its purpose? A Skinner box is an operant conditioning chamber used to train animals such as rats and pigeons to perform certain behaviors, like pressing a lever. ... Shaping is an operant conditioning method in which you reward closer and closer approximations of the desired behavior.”

My guess, it meant nothing. He was just just getting to react to his post like described above. The General Ford part was part of him disguising the ruse.
 
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WhispersintheWind

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HawarMiran said:
Halo Infinite coming to Playstation 5
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You Laugh Now, but what if in 2 and 3 years you could play PS4 Exclusives on Xbox Series X and Xbox One X Exclusives On PS5 after they are say are 3 years old or Older?

Game Industry is Changing...and what we call Exclusive might not be Long Term Exclusive.

Not stating this Fact...but Is more of a speculation that has a chance of coming to be...
 
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HawarMiran

HawarMiran

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WhispersintheWind said:
You Laugh Now, but what if in 2 and 3 years you could play PS4 Exclusives on Xbox Series X and Xbox One X Exclusives On PS5 after they are say are 3 years old or Older?

Game Industry is Changing...and what we call Exclusive might not be Long Term Exclusive.

Not stating this Fact...but Is more of a speculation that has a chance of coming to be...
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There will be no Xbox exclusives for PC gamers. The day Playstation exclusives come to Xbox I would probably play only on PC and destroy my Sony shrine
 
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Neo Blaster

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M-V2 said:
I will say it as a PS fan, MS is more straight forward about their strategies with their fans, which is great, on the other side Sony is unclear, they're doing things randomly (at least for me)
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Really? Even with all their backpedaling? If you're bitter about 'soon', remember MS is the one coming from a disastrous gen, they must fire all cilinders about their next gen.
 
SlimySnake

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Bligtgate said:
I wouldn’t call that back peddling guys. Its not like he said when its coming on it first comment he just said theirs 2 console per company which make sense
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he literally said they are coming at launch to last the full 7 year gen. what are you reading?

Alright people. One last time..

I heard that there are 2 consoles per company. The mid-gen refreshes are going to be introduced at release so that these consoles can run the entire 7yr cycle.
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Mr Moose

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In a way I wish HZD wasn't going to PC, suddenly (well, more than usual) everyone is port begging for every PS exclusive and its fucking annoying. Especially Bloodborne.
But... I kinda want to see Dreams on PC.

SlimySnake said:
he literally said they are coming at launch to last the full 7 year gen. what are you reading?
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That's the shit that made me question/doubt him.
 
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HawarMiran

HawarMiran

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Mr Moose said:
In a way I wish HZD wasn't going to PC, suddenly (well, more than usual) everyone is port begging for every PS exclusive and its fucking annoying. Especially Bloodborne.
But... I kinda want to see Dreams on PC.
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If Dreams comes to PC Sony has to enable mouse and keyboard on Playstation too or else it would split up the player base. I don't think "dreamers" on PC would create their games for controller only
 
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Mr Moose

Mr Moose

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BlacknGold_Blood said:
The next and last big shoe to drop will be the Olympics.
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When is that happening? I could see it being cancelled. All it takes is one or two infected and... Welp.
(They must be scared of Series X).

HawarMiran said:
If Dreams comes to PC Sony has to enable mouse and keyboard on Playstation too or else it would split up the player base. I don't think "dreamers" on PC would create their games for a controller only
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Do those PS3 light stick things work on PC?

Edit: How do they build shit on PS4? Is it motion controls? Do you need the camera?
 
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HawarMiran

HawarMiran

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Mr Moose said:
When is that happening? I could see it being cancelled. All it takes is one or two infected and... Welp.
(They must be scared of Series X).


Do those PS3 light stick things work on PC?
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I don't think so. But they could easily make it work. Why tho? Mouse and keyboard would be superior I think and everyone already has it on PC
 
Mr Moose

Mr Moose

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Hawking Radiation said:
Yep. That's going too. Obviously don't mind. We should expect these consoles in 2021.
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I am hoping the Coronavirus shit dies out in the summer. Let's cross our fingers and hope for the best.

HawarMiran said:
I don't think so. But they could easily make it work. Why tho? Mouse and keyboard would be superior I think and everyone already has it on PC
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PS4 supports mouse and keyboard, why the f haven't they added that support for the game :messenger_sad_relieved:
 
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