Kacho
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Can't argue with facts. 10.2 vs 12
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PS5 specs revealed. Up to 10.2 Tflops.
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Fulcizombie
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It is not just the TFs , the XSX is better in everything else but the SSD speed.
ethomaz
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Tenka Musou
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Ban 'em all!
Ban 'em all!
Smaller than Atom
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No. You wasted it!! Lol
CAB_Life
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The spin is going on in the “official stream“ thread as we speak. Nonsense about how 36 CUs at that speed (which it wont’ be, constantly, or the box would be on fire) is a gamechanger. ”Xbox is slow and powerful; PS5 is fast and efficient with powerful CUs.” I’m paraphrasing, but that’s the general delusion that’s fomenting.
Look, I’ve been a PS guy all my life with the brief exceptions of owning a Wii, a 360 (Lost Odyssey—yaaassss!) and recently an X1X and even still this reveal was terribly disappointing: messaging to delivery. No idea what Sony is thinking or doing atm, but they seem to have lost the plot.
HaveButOneLife
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$399?
Syn Marnotrawny
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I belived in github from the beginning. Laughing so hard at those guys that made cesspool yesteday. 14tf, dreamers 
MilkyJoe
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Correct. Having to wait 2 to 4 seconds longer to play a game on SX completely negates the 20% gpu advantage, faster cpu and faster memory bandwidth, experienced during actual gameplay.
Old Empire.
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36 CUS over 2GHz
Birdo
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My monitor has 2w speakers. I don't care about it either lol.
I'm not really sure PS5 will be cheaper and too be honest I don't expect a price announcement anytime soon either.
Market will be split 50/50 this time around in the long run,
This is however great news for developers, most games will use the PS5 as the baseline, anything added extra to Xbox will be minimal in terms of features.
Market will be split 50/50 this time around in the long run,
This is however great news for developers, most games will use the PS5 as the baseline, anything added extra to Xbox will be minimal in terms of features.
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vpance
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So now that it's clear they aimed for 9TF to start I wonder what the odds of a Pro is in 3 years.
They played it too conservative this time around IMO. Will be interesting to see what the preorders are like between XSX and PS5 in a few months. Only big plus for them is if they can hit an unexpectedly low price like $349.
They played it too conservative this time around IMO. Will be interesting to see what the preorders are like between XSX and PS5 in a few months. Only big plus for them is if they can hit an unexpectedly low price like $349.
lol MS bought a lot of studios and there are even more to come.. they have 16 studios.. the games will follow nextgein.. also MS is launching with fucking halo, which is in development for 5 years.. what is PS5 launching with? Godfall? lol
Armorian
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This is thread about PS5 HARDWARE and people are dissapointed because Sony fucked up big time. First party games have potential to look great given how talented Sony studios are but EVERY TP game will be better on XSX.
tflopsmatter
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This is a total failure in every way.
It has a 9.2TF GPU which can be overclocked to 10.3.
It doesn't even list the amount of RAM.
It has a CPU frequency lower than the XBox Series X.
It's raytracing seems to be no better than what comes with RDNA.
Sony has launched a gimped console.
If it doesn't have multithreading, then it's even worse.
Mithos
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The way I understood it was that the "100 games thing" was for when running PS5 Native mode.
When running PS4 Pro or PS4 mode everything should just work.
At least that's how I interpreted what was said.
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demigod
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ViciousAgenda
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They spent a huuuuuge amount of time talking about something that I'll wager most people won't care about.
Xbox it is this gen.
Agnostic2020
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Give it up man . Atleast have that much diginity. What u think is in your head and not reality . Rdna 2 was already announced by amd you chose to ignore it .Too bad you didn't go for my bet then.
AGRacing
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9.2 at 2.00 ghz was exactly right. I can’t wait to see this cooling solution.
Here’s the hilarious part : dynamics clocks in a console... we will never know what they clocks are running at while we are playing until I suppose the day someone hacks the thing.
He’s suggesting that high triangle count games won’t hit those numbers because of heat, etc. So your “god of war” tier game will put the console in the 9.X range. Your simple graphics high frame rate titles may see the GPU break 10TF. We won’t ever know , though.
They get to advertise a high theoretical peak and we get to live with the reality of probably never seeing it.
He does seem confident it’s going to be a quiet system.... so I take that as a win.....
Here’s the hilarious part : dynamics clocks in a console... we will never know what they clocks are running at while we are playing until I suppose the day someone hacks the thing.
He’s suggesting that high triangle count games won’t hit those numbers because of heat, etc. So your “god of war” tier game will put the console in the 9.X range. Your simple graphics high frame rate titles may see the GPU break 10TF. We won’t ever know , though.
They get to advertise a high theoretical peak and we get to live with the reality of probably never seeing it.
He does seem confident it’s going to be a quiet system.... so I take that as a win.....
We'll see about that.
MaulerX
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GHG
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True but I think the dynamic has changed now. They wont be buying studios, but rather they will be throwing money at games they want day one on gamepass. If they can get a few big 3rd party mutiplatform titles agreed on gamepass for day 1 of release it will be a pretty big deal.
100% agreed on the first point. Same goes for the 3D audio they spent so long talking about.
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HaveButOneLife
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Again, who cares? Why be disappointed when Sony wants an affordable system? The thread is for arguing and discussion.
Manwithoutfear
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The graphics processing unit (of Xbox Series X) is also a custom unit based on AMD's RDNA 2 graphics architecture with 52 compute units running at 1.465GHz (base) & 1.825GHz (boost) that is capable of 9.75 (base) teraflops & 12.14 (boost) teraflops of computational power.
Inside Xbox Series X: the full specs
This is it. After months of teaser trailers, blog posts and even the occasional leak, we can finally reveal firm, hard …www.eurogamer.net
Holy shit you are just blatantly making shit up. the article you linked DOES NOT say that at all.
From the article it actually says.
with a peak 3.8GHz frequency. This is when SMT - or hyper-threading - is disabled. Curiously, developers can choose to run with eight physical cores at the higher clock, or all cores and threads can be enabled with a lower 3.6GHz frequency. Those frequencies are completely locked and won't adjust according to load or thermal conditions - a point Microsoft emphasised several times during our visit.
But up until now at least, the focus has been on the GPU, where Microsoft has delivered 12 teraflops of compute performance via 3328 shaders allocated to 52 compute units (from 56 in total on silicon, four disabled to increase production yield) running at a sustained, locked 1825MHz. Once again, Microsoft stresses the point that frequencies are consistent on all machines, in all environments. There are no boost clocks with Xbox Series X.
Old Empire.
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JareBear: Remastered
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I’m worried that next gen is going to be a lot of “4k/60 on XsX, 4k/30 on PS5.”
I was hoping for at least 11 TF. I’m a little disappointed
I was hoping for at least 11 TF. I’m a little disappointed
PocoJoe
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I believed that Sony will give us faster than xbox system, I were wrong.
But still, I understand their logic. Maybe it is true that less CUs with much higher clocks = plain TFLOP count doesnt tell the whole story.
I just fear that it is hot as fuck and noisy.
SSD is definetly better than on xsex, 3d audio sounds really interesting.
And this just shows that Sony will probably win the gen even when MS moneyspams their way to better specs
But still, I understand their logic. Maybe it is true that less CUs with much higher clocks = plain TFLOP count doesnt tell the whole story.
I just fear that it is hot as fuck and noisy.
SSD is definetly better than on xsex, 3d audio sounds really interesting.
And this just shows that Sony will probably win the gen even when MS moneyspams their way to better specs
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Deleted member 774430
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I was not expecting this since it was a GDC presentation, but at least show me a better tech demo than DEAD SPACE from 2008!
You could have done that with Doom 2016.
Also still no design for the box, or at the least the new Dualshock.
tflopsmatter
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I totally agree. Sony just handed the generation over to microsoft. Yes, there will be some good looking games on the PS5 but the system is no where close to a generational leap. I think games will look FAR better on the Xbox.
Screamer-RSA
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Lol Sony lying again.
lol wtf
Wccftech - 505 Games, Activision, Nintendo 2019’s Best Publishers Says Metacritic, Sony Not in Top 20
Metacritic has gone over their 2019 data and published their list of best-reviewed publishers of 2019. This isn’t a simple case of just looking at each publisher’s average Metacritic score – there’s a whole new methodology this year, with Metacritic assigning each publisher a score based on the...
we are already seeing that though.. Sony not in top20 and MS at 7. Accoring to Metacritic.
Kokoloko85
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Still sounds good to me. Games will sell. Games like Spider Man 2, God of War 2, Naughty Dogs game will always sell millions of consoles,
And for people shouting xbox will win. Xbox has had the stronger console for 2 years? And this isnt the 360 era. The 360 had a year advantage sales, PS3 was not great at developing games and lost many many exclusives to the 360. It was the bro era of Halo, Gears and Cod. That wont happen again
And for people shouting xbox will win. Xbox has had the stronger console for 2 years? And this isnt the 360 era. The 360 had a year advantage sales, PS3 was not great at developing games and lost many many exclusives to the 360. It was the bro era of Halo, Gears and Cod. That wont happen again
octiny
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Investor9872
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Do you have a link to that? I thought that it was "Capped" at 12.1, not locked, which would mean that all games run at 12.1 regardless of whether they need to or not.
Judging from how they supported 3rd parties in current-gen they don't have a chance.
But things change, I hope they are better now.
All of the current-gen Sony was better in MSFT infrastructure (compilers/debuggers/tools) than MSFT (using MSFT Visual Studio and friends at that).
Some strange people even think that Sony 1st parties use DirectX, that's how good that was.
Great Hair
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One would assume that, after selling 110mill. PS4 chips .. Sony would be AMDs priority. 10TFLOPS is not enough for VR at all. And also during the pressconfer. Cerny alluded to those external SSD cards. Yet didnt mention it at all.
And he wants me to scan my head? my ears? to get the right HRTF?! for me. They better have Bloodborne 4K60 ready, Demon´s Souls remaster ready for $299. 10 to even 13Tflops are weak arse. And those 10 are PEAK! meaning that most hit 8 to 9Tflops with their shitty ports, unoptimized ass.creed 11.
I give you 10!
They should have given me the job of creating the PS5.
1º COPY PS4 design, layout
2º replace GDDR5 with GDDR6
3º PS4 APU with a beefy PS5 APU
4º add standard PCIX4 SSD with extra cache
5º release 2019 25th birthday
$399 going to be tough sell, if your rival has 2tflops more and costs the same? Overall, lackluster ... too much talk about shitty 3D audio NO ONE gives a wet fart about it. Has Cerny played any game beside Knack 1?
Wish KKK was still in charge, he would have done a better job (PS1, PS2, PS3 >>>> PS4, PS5)
And he wants me to scan my head? my ears? to get the right HRTF?! for me. They better have Bloodborne 4K60 ready, Demon´s Souls remaster ready for $299. 10 to even 13Tflops are weak arse. And those 10 are PEAK! meaning that most hit 8 to 9Tflops with their shitty ports, unoptimized ass.creed 11.
I give you 10!
They should have given me the job of creating the PS5.
1º COPY PS4 design, layout
2º replace GDDR5 with GDDR6
3º PS4 APU with a beefy PS5 APU
4º add standard PCIX4 SSD with extra cache
5º release 2019 25th birthday
$399 going to be tough sell, if your rival has 2tflops more and costs the same? Overall, lackluster ... too much talk about shitty 3D audio NO ONE gives a wet fart about it. Has Cerny played any game beside Knack 1?
Wish KKK was still in charge, he would have done a better job (PS1, PS2, PS3 >>>> PS4, PS5)
DunDunDunpachi
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What makes you say it's last-minute? Doesn't really answer my question in either case.
Seems like I missed the true fanboy war.
Forget PS5 specs. We have people in here stanning for precious github
Didn't github also leak that it would be RDNA 1?