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Final Fantasy 7 Remake Review Thread!
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SLoWMoTIoN
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I have no idea who these people are outside the guardian...which gave it a 10.
Lethal01
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ALright, well yeah, this site is a bit more fair. That said some comments here do make me feel like it's gonna have a fair amount of people giving a low score for things like it not being turn based.
sid2vicious
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I see. I did the math, and the score is correct although its a high 87, one positive review should bump it up to 88. It just seems it would've been higher having "13" perfect scores. There's still other positive review I found on other sites, which would definitely bump it up, but the submitting I have no idea how that works.
base
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It's 50/50 I think. Old fans will miss the original plot. The gameplay was also improved due to new expectations. Young people play games like League of Legends or Fortnite. Devs adapt to their demands.
HotPocket69
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Where that OT at
93xfan
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I was 13 when the original came out. I put in over 100 hours and calles it my favorite game of all time for a really long time. It’s such a treasured experience. But even back when I originally played it and was in awe, I still noticed it had some flaws that I’d have to use my imagination to fix up what was lacking. For example, happening upon a trained pet dolphin that just happens to be able to get you where you need to go is a very poor plot device that doesn’t get well with the excellent storytelling seen elsewhere in the game. Things like that should be fixed up.
And square is going so far beyond that with many of the original creators expanding on their vision. Nothing added (that I’ve seen) feels out of place.
This remake is in its own league and seems poised to be a great reimagining of my favorite RPG Alf all time (if not favorite game).
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sid2vicious
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These videos were made a few hours ago, I thought I'd share if anyone is curious what this game means to me. I get it that there are many amazing games, and people have different opinions on them, but for me personally, I found that perfect game in 1997. So when I see videos like these, it puts a smile on my face, when other people try put into words how I feel, so I don't even have to say anything.
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Quezacolt
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No. The game looks exactly the same in both consoles and runs the same. The ps4 only has higher res, but that's it.
Malakhov
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PS4 slim it is then, thanks.
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Psykodad
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One time.
When part 2 releases, you can just go to your local gamestore and grab a free copy.
All you need to do if they ask what you're doing, is tell them you bought the first episode a few years before.
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Danjin44
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Really? I think we already getting too much “open world” game these days, a linear game is a welcome change.
vpance
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TBH I'm tiring of both, lol. It's just late gen malaise I think. I'm ready to move on to the new coat of paint.
Danjin44
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mmmm......I'm not really graphic person, as long as the game is fun and I like the art direction then I'm happy. I buy new consoles for their new games, not for new tech.
wintersouls
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I am feeling the same sensations with the remake that in its day with the original. My heart goes out of my chest when I'm in combat and this music plays. For me, as for many, a masterpiece.
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Hinedorf
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Well now I'm just a big fucking hypocrite and I preordered..... was supposed to have tomorrow off for Wondercon due to the virus I totally forgot I had PTO so now I have tomorrow off with nothing to do and lots of money with nothing to spend.....enter that damn remake.
I'm honestly not even excited for it, there's no real nostalgia to this game for me compared to what Chrono Trigger, FF3, or Xenogears might do but I'll definitely give it a chance.
My biggest complaint with the original (RPG story) felt like they really screwed over Cloud as a character to make you and him completely uncertain of who he was and to me it felt like a huge pothole in the story rather than being entertaining for the first 20+ hours of the game. If anything I'm excited for with this game it's the soundtrack which I still listen to this day.
I'm honestly not even excited for it, there's no real nostalgia to this game for me compared to what Chrono Trigger, FF3, or Xenogears might do but I'll definitely give it a chance.
My biggest complaint with the original (RPG story) felt like they really screwed over Cloud as a character to make you and him completely uncertain of who he was and to me it felt like a huge pothole in the story rather than being entertaining for the first 20+ hours of the game. If anything I'm excited for with this game it's the soundtrack which I still listen to this day.
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You mean like Assassin's Creed with RPG elements like "have sex with him/her". Wow, you guys are really "demanding". No wonder devs are so lazy.
DonJorginho
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Just over two hours in, this game is utterly beautiful, the combat is amazing, the visuals are mostly great, the score and cinematic nature is to die for.
I don't care if it's a Nomura title, I'm gonna enjoy this!
I don't care if it's a Nomura title, I'm gonna enjoy this!
Lethal01
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It's "lazy" for devs to make a game that isn't open world? A lot of us just prefer linear games. It's like your saying it's lazy if a dev makes a game without realistic graphics.
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Remind me then why people were complaining about FFXIII being so linear? I don't get it.
Lethal01
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Sadly I never played it so I can't really comment on that. But it's seriously sounding like you are saying it's fundamentally wrong and lazy to make a game that's not open world. Are Linear games now objectively worse than open world by default?
Danjin44
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Because FFXIII was badly designed linear game, you would be half way through the game and still won’t get full combat system.
Ixion
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I haven't played FF7R yet, but FF13's linearity was compounded by the fact that the battle system became formulaic after a while and there was absolutely zero other activities to partake in besides those battles. Not to mention you still have to switch screens for every fight, so overall the game was simply press forward until you run into the next enemy, transition, same battle formula, repeat. (And there was some very trite and melodramatic storytelling sprinkled in between.)
FF7R seems to at least have 2 or 3 town areas with people to talk to and things to do, mini-games, etc. Plus the battles are real-time action on the battlefield, which makes for a less repetitive feeling. But again, I still need to play it...
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Only when we're talking about ff7. If they make it linear they're lazy. Since they've decided to make it episodic we can expect more from them. I won't pay 3 or 4 times 60 euro for a linear game.
Omg and you bought a game written by the guy who made kingdom hearts 3. Sorry in advance for what you're gonna go through (long drawn out convolution with an anticlimactic payoff). There's no way that squenx won't get lazy and through the motions with this by the time parts 4 through 7 are released in 2028
Lethal01
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We can expect more from them, but more doesn't have to mean changing the style of the game. If it did we wouldn't have so many people complaining that it's not turn based.
Open World doesn't equal more. They are using the resources that would have gone into making it open world into making it a better linear game.
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Since when Final Fantasy franchise got worse? When it wasn't open world anymore. Every linear FF was criticized or controversial. FFXV was party open world because we had only Lucis continent available.
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SLoWMoTIoN
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You are as obnoxious as sid jfc.
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I regret that you think so low of me. Really.
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SLoWMoTIoN
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Ixion
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One new review added today:
9/10 - Worth Playing
"Final Fantasy 7 Remake is a love letter to the original game. With likeable characters, engaging gameplay, and clever twists and turns, FF7R does everything that it needs to. An over-reliance on pre-existing knowledge of FF7 may make it a tough introduction for new players. The strong writing and excellent gameplay should carry newcomers over the finish line, even if they're confused by things by the end. The ending might be a little controversial, but the rest of the game sets up such a strong base that I can't wait for Final Fantasy VII Remake Part 2."
9/10 - Worth Playing
"Final Fantasy 7 Remake is a love letter to the original game. With likeable characters, engaging gameplay, and clever twists and turns, FF7R does everything that it needs to. An over-reliance on pre-existing knowledge of FF7 may make it a tough introduction for new players. The strong writing and excellent gameplay should carry newcomers over the finish line, even if they're confused by things by the end. The ending might be a little controversial, but the rest of the game sets up such a strong base that I can't wait for Final Fantasy VII Remake Part 2."
LostDonkey
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How long is this part?
Do you have to pay for each part separately?
Sorry if already been answered.
Do you have to pay for each part separately?
Sorry if already been answered.
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It took me around 40h with all sidequests. I was looking everywhere, every place.
Lethal01
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Yes this is a full $60 game. The squels to this game will be $60. Much like you have to pay full price to buy last of us 2.
RPSleon
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I think the voice acting and body language of the characters are brilliant.
Theres a real kind of anime style to the characters performances, which slots in so perfectly. Its a joy to watch.
RPSleon
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This is the comparison i make. People need to treat the other sections as sequels.
I saw someone say he is gonna wait for it all to be remade before he buys it, so i countered with "would you wait until they make the last uncharted game before playing the first one?"
If they keep this level of detail and additional story depth going right to the end without releasing parts, we would not be playing this game yet, not for several years.
So to anyone who's played this, is it your opinion that they couldn't have released a whole game for some reason other than money and time? Is it that much of a technical marvel that it wouldn't have fit on 1, 2 ,3 discs? The original was, so they released that on 3 discs. Why not this one?
To those stating that it's a full game, you're wrong, it's a full episode as Square have said. It may work as a long self contained episode but it isn't a full game no matter how you choose to view it.
The full game will cost a minimum of £150.
To those stating that it's a full game, you're wrong, it's a full episode as Square have said. It may work as a long self contained episode but it isn't a full game no matter how you choose to view it.
The full game will cost a minimum of £150.
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If only Midgar takes around 40 h then the whole game would take something like 300 hours to be finished.
Yes, it takes 40 hrs by design, I'm not in a position to say that all of those are 40 critical plot related hours but the original 8 or so hours was always enough Midgar for me and got the story points across just fine. They've engineered it to take longer and claimed it was too big of a game to release in one go. have they really added 32 game critical worthwhile hours? If they have, great I'm in but until I hear that, I'll wait to see how the next installments play out. If every 8 hours is stretched to 40hrs it'll end up a damn sight more than £150.
It didn't have to be like that. My point is, If they'd stuck to the original story without filler, is there a reason that technically they couldn't have released one game?
sid2vicious
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This has been explained a million times, but you seem to be selective of what Square Enix said, so I'll answer your question even though you probably don't want to accept it in your mind. The simple answer to your question is, it's simply "NOT" possible on the "PS4" with those production values. So unless you want the game to look like a PS2 game like Trails of Mana, this is the "best" the PS4 can offer. If you look at similar game "RE2R" and "RE3R" both those games barely hit 10 hours long, FF7R is a longer game than those. Then there's FFXV, do I need to explain how chopped up that game was? So unless you want Midgar to become another Insomnia or Altissia, be grateful with what you got.
GymWolf
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This has been explained a million times, but you seem to be selective of what Square Enix said, so I'll answer your question even though you probably don't want to accept it in your mind. The simple answer to your question is, it's simply "NOT" possible on the "PS4" with those production values. So unless you want the game to look like a PS2 game like Trails of Mana, this is the "best" the PS4 can offer. If you look at similar game "RE2R" and "RE3R" both those games barely hit 10 hours long, FF7R is a longer game than those. Then there's FFXV, do I need to explain how chopped up that game was? So unless you want Midgar to become another Insomnia or Altissia, be grateful with what you got.
Of course it's possible. It wasn't possible to fit FFVII on one cartridge so they switched to a "better" console, it wouldn't fit on one disc on that console, so it came on three. FFXV also came on one disc didn't it? If you mean it's not financially viable, that's different, but no way does the Midgar section need to be 40 hours of game, so they've engineered that situation themselves.
Give us 2 blu ray discs and a 40Gb download if you have to. Be very grateful? Why, it's not free?
I'm a fan of Final Fantasy but would be happier if we had a 70ish hr no filler game, 2 discs £50. That would not have been impossible. If what you were saying was true there'd be another 5 episodes yet because it's not possible to fit the remaining 50-60 hours of game onto one or two discs! It's not impossible to make a good 60-70 hour game with modern visuals fit on a couple of discs. That's what I'd hoped for.
I know what Square said, I just don't believe them
BacklashWave534
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Agreed. I just started playing last night and a few hours in....fetch quests. Nothing breaks a games pacing like fetch quests. Otherwise the game is really good.
Technically? No. It's just expensive. A legitimate remake of Final Fantasy VII would be ten times more costly than the next most expensive game ever made. There's a reason linear games don't exist anymore and it has nothing to do with modern design conventions or the palate of the younger generation. It's simply not cost effective to produce an original 3D environment that only gets "used" once or twice. Square Enix, being the F-tier developer that they are, made plenty of idiotic decisions about how to manage the cost of that project and have generally approached Remake in the worst possible way, but they aren't really lying about the enormity of the project.
sid2vicious
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I know what Square said, I just don't believe them
Believe what you want, it doesn't make you right.
alabtrosMyster
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Give them 10 years