If you listen to Skill up he makes no mention of SJWs, wokeness or any of the culture war stuff. He gives his opinion on the game and the story. I might not agree but it comes from a genuine place. That is the difference between those who have real issues with the game and people who want to make it a culture war.
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TLOU2 Haters and Detractors are review-bombing Metacritic. The Salt rises!
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MadchesterManc
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I don't even have any interest in TLOU2, either hype for the game or disappointment in the leaks, so I find all this animosity over opinions chuckle worthy.
It's not like Sony are gonna be putting metacritic user reviews on a trailer reel over a publications perfect score anyway.
It's not like Sony are gonna be putting metacritic user reviews on a trailer reel over a publications perfect score anyway.
Nothing to do with this. It has to do with the bias censorship. Having a full on dude on dude sex scene is ok for Sony but some feminine body parts have to be censored. There’s an agenda here and ultimately the Sjws will like to blur the line between masculinity and femininity.
You can disagree with his views all you want but after playing for about six hours last night I can assure you whoever made this game is no snowflake.
Geki-D
Banned
I mean, if this is a real issue people have with the game then they probably need a smack across the face and their diapers changed. It's a fictional character in a fictional universe, stop crying about it and roll with the story and the events that happen because of it. Can you imagine people doing this over the red wedding? "B....But Robb Stark was meant to rule the north!!
wahhhh!!! HOW CAN THEY DO THIS??!! THIS SHOW SUCKS NOW!!!" It's utterly pathetic and these fragile flowers need to grow up.You can really tell when people have nothing else going on in their lives that need to dedicate so much time to waging a fake war on a video game and it's director because they don't like the way some plot elements go.
Frito_Pendejo
Member
I mean, it’s no different than statues or pancake syrup. People are protesting. Seems to be all the rage these days.
OutRun88
Member
If we keep devolving to the lowest common denominator of intellect and reason displayed by the 'left' or 'right' our society is going to be consumed by a raging dumpster fire.
This isn't fighting fire with fire. This is adding fuel onto the uncontrollable flame that was lit by something truly evil.
The moral high ground still exists. Walk it.
The statues in many ways represent an oppressive history while TLOU2 represents none of that. The reaction to this game is similar to how the outrage squad on the left reacted to The Joker.
sid2vicious
Banned
Metacritic scores reflect people anger towards Naughty Dog, you want to call your game political, very well then it shall be reviewed like one. Naughty Dog did just about everything right to piss people off, very successfully at that, even without their woke agenda.
Lets start with my personal nitpick, they cancelled the showing at Pax East, the people's event, because they were too cowardice to face covid, a lot of good that did them. Then the game got delayed with what seemed indefinitely this year, until the game was leaked.
After that there was that whole unhappy employees deal, along with the discovery of all the wokeness from the leaks. Then when YouTube tried to cover the news (journalists however did not, conveniently) Naughty Dog went all defensive, striking everything down, deleting negative feedback, etc. Then Neil Cuckman started to personally attack criticism and insult the fans, basically telling them to fuck off if you don't like it.
After damage control came critics score, all perfect scores obviously, while having the strictest guideline of not spoiling the game, even though the game was entirely leaked. I'm sure I'm missing more stuff, but that's the gist of it. Naughty Dog and Neil Cuckman created so much controversy over this game, one has to assume if they wanted all this negativity over this game in the first place. So it is to no surprise their wish was granted, they got what they deserved.
Lets start with my personal nitpick, they cancelled the showing at Pax East, the people's event, because they were too cowardice to face covid, a lot of good that did them. Then the game got delayed with what seemed indefinitely this year, until the game was leaked.
After that there was that whole unhappy employees deal, along with the discovery of all the wokeness from the leaks. Then when YouTube tried to cover the news (journalists however did not, conveniently) Naughty Dog went all defensive, striking everything down, deleting negative feedback, etc. Then Neil Cuckman started to personally attack criticism and insult the fans, basically telling them to fuck off if you don't like it.
After damage control came critics score, all perfect scores obviously, while having the strictest guideline of not spoiling the game, even though the game was entirely leaked. I'm sure I'm missing more stuff, but that's the gist of it. Naughty Dog and Neil Cuckman created so much controversy over this game, one has to assume if they wanted all this negativity over this game in the first place. So it is to no surprise their wish was granted, they got what they deserved.
I hear what you are saying and trust me ive considered it. But then I get a video of a George Washington Statue being toppled and treated just the way Joel was treated in the LOU2. All of this is deliberate and a counter is only but the right thing to do.
GreyHorace
Member
I've seen the leaks of the cutscenes and even the ending. Not going to spoil it here. That said...
In my opinion, that score needs to be lower. The story is fucking abysmal, and fans of the first game are going to be so pissed at what happens. It's goddamn glorified torture porn that people are going to defend as deep. Citizen Kane of videogames my ass.
It's Mass Effect 3 all over again, and 'gaming journalists' are complicit in this fraud with all their cocksucking.
But hey, you're all free to call me a hater. I'm just giving my honest opinion about it.
In my opinion, that score needs to be lower. The story is fucking abysmal, and fans of the first game are going to be so pissed at what happens. It's goddamn glorified torture porn that people are going to defend as deep. Citizen Kane of videogames my ass.
It's Mass Effect 3 all over again, and 'gaming journalists' are complicit in this fraud with all their cocksucking.
But hey, you're all free to call me a hater. I'm just giving my honest opinion about it.
MiguelItUp
Member
Oh dude, VERY true, but that doesn't mean these people don't exist. It's like all that bizarre Star Wars Rey + Kylo Ren stuff. People claim their lives are ruined because of what happened in a film or other kind of entertainment, lmao. It's like EEEEEEESH.I mean, if this is a real issue people have with the game then they probably need a smack across the face and their diapers changed. It's a fictional character in a fictional universe, stop crying about it and roll with the story and the events that happen because of it. Can you imagine people doing this over the red wedding? "B....But Robb Stark was meant to rule the north!!
You can really tell when people have nothing else going on in their lives that need to dedicate so much time to waging a fake war on a video game and it's director because they don't like the way some plot elements go.
On that SAME note I think the people saying something is a "life changing experience" are generally just as bad. Like, come on man, that's a lofty thing to say. It's absurd to me, haha.
I mean, there are games, music, and movies out there that I fucking ADORE. But I've never even thought to be like OH MY GOD THIS CHANGED MY LIFE! REEEEE! It's crazy to me, lmao.
The Hamburglar
Banned
talking out of your arse. So whats this male on male nudity then, you just casually posting TLOU2 spoilers with your 29 posts I see? So sony covered up some anime shit big deal.
The reality is they've made a game with a female lead who's also a muff diver and people just can't handle that and are crying gender politics forced into ma game ad nauseam.
Explosive Zombie
Banned
Did you not understand what peoples problems with ME 3 were?
RedVIper
Banned
"Everyone who doesn't like what I do is a hateful bigot", pretty cool way to dodge criticism.
OutRun88
Member
This is an outrageous comparison.
One is a traitorous act that occurred in real life.
The other is an event that occurred in a fictional story, by in which the creator of said story has every right to do, no matter how offended you are by it.
GreyHorace
Member
What? That Bioware completely fucked up the ending and 'game journalists' failed to mention it in their reviews? Not to mention some other problems like the quest design, menu system and other nagging problems with the game.
ME3 received universal acclaim on it's release just like the TLOU2, and people were pissed that such a flawed game got such high scores. And when gamers complained, the 'gaming press' went full ham in calling them 'entitled' and 'ungrateful'. As if consumers of an entertainment product don't have the right to complain that they'd been sold shit. It was the first hint of the movement we'd come to know as gamergate.
I predict the fan outrage to this game will be huge, and 'gaming journalists' will react the same way. The cycle repeats itself.
samporter
Banned
The problem with this game is that the story is not very good, gameplay is similar to the first one, and the critic review scores have been over hyped and over inflated. It seems mostly the SJW are ones blaming the low scores on lgbt topics.
This game is just not the 10/10 the game critics have been hyping, and users who have seen the whole game are voicing their opinions, albeit hyperbolic. This game should be around 7/10 or 8/10, maybe 9/10.
I didn’t mean to spoil anything, I just responded with the truth. I don’t post here often and I don’t even know how to erase the post. If you can help I will be more than happy to erase because of the “spoiler”.
But stop with your hypocrisy!Censorship is not acceptable if you are going to censor content then be consistent otherwise then Sony is just pushing propaganda.
LOU fans don’t care that Ellie is gay. We loved the first one and the DLC and she was gay there as well. So stop with the attacks!
Frito_Pendejo
Member
I disagree. People are offended by the games content and they’re protesting it. It’s pretty much the same thing.
And no, I’m not offended by the content nor do I care. I plan on buying it and finish it just like I did the first game.
Hobbygaming
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Losers are creating accounts just to leave a 0/10 review
I’m not equating the two! I’m responding to someone who pretty much said take the high road. And yes that’s ND art and they can do whatever they want with it but guess what that art isn’t being distributed for free. It is a product that being monetized to consumers and as consumers we can review the consumer scores however we please and speak out about tHe game however we fell like.
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So piss and moan exponentially more?
This is exactly my point.
Frito_Pendejo
Member
Losers are creating accounts just to leave a 0/10 review
You have got to stop letting this bother you. You know the game doesn’t suck.
Guilty_AI
Member
Losers are also creating accounts just to leave a 10/10 reviewLosers are creating accounts just to leave a 0/10 review
Like I said confederate statues or statues of slavers honor people who kept the ancestors of many of the protestors on bondage and chains. TLOU2 is just a video game that some people don't like. Even if it is turn out to be a bad game it certainly won't be the only one. Why does this one get people so worked up?
Vawn
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SLoWMoTIoN
Unconfirmed Member
LOL, does this really matter? The box is going to be plastered with review sites giving it a 10/10 (I hope they cashed their check) and regular people are gonna see that not metacritic user reviews.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Hahaha at all the people whining about getting review bombed.
So what? If you like the game who cares if people want to give it a 0/10 score.
I think the past 3 Call of Duty games have got review bombed as well. In one of the recent games people dinged it with zeros because they hated all the microtrans. Who cares. If you like the series just ignore the user scores.
The last Call of Duty game I played a decent amount was WWII a few years back. It' currently got a user score on PS4 or Xbox One of about 4/10.
WHO CARES.
So what? If you like the game who cares if people want to give it a 0/10 score.
I think the past 3 Call of Duty games have got review bombed as well. In one of the recent games people dinged it with zeros because they hated all the microtrans. Who cares. If you like the series just ignore the user scores.
The last Call of Duty game I played a decent amount was WWII a few years back. It' currently got a user score on PS4 or Xbox One of about 4/10.
WHO CARES.
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Vawn
Banned
Regular people are smart enough to know that user scores mean literally nothing. It is just a bunch of jealous losers who haven't played the game. This is just proof of that.
I actually find the jealousy hilarious, as I am sure Naughty Dog does as well.
iorek21
Member
The thing is, ever since U2, every Naughty Dog game has been overrated as fuck.
U3 is... okay?
U4 is good, but has some problems
TLOU is also good, but nowhere near the Second Coming of Christ that lots of people claim.
TLOU2 is just a continuation of the trend, at least in the reviewers side; as for fans, it seems to be a very divisive title (even more than Death Stranding)
U3 is... okay?
U4 is good, but has some problems
TLOU is also good, but nowhere near the Second Coming of Christ that lots of people claim.
TLOU2 is just a continuation of the trend, at least in the reviewers side; as for fans, it seems to be a very divisive title (even more than Death Stranding)
Allnamestakenlol
Member
And on the second day, balance was achieved.
I am loving what I played so far but I understand you can't judge from six hours. I saw the sun was starting to come up so I went to bed. That being said if the game takes a bad turn in later plays I will not go on some vendetta against the creator. I have no grudge against Kojima for Death Stranding. The backlash against the game goes way deeper then just some people not liking it.
Musky_Cheese
Banned
Both extremes will review bomb. Many on both sides are people who aren't "customers".
Ion Fury is a great study for this topic
Ion Fury is a great study for this topic
But The Last Of Us, Left Behind, and Remastered all high user reviewed.
lock2k
Banned
Geki-D
Banned
And they all came out before the internet entered the dark ages of the CULTUH WARZZZ. Also Ellie wasn't openly gay in those games, she was a 14 year old who pecked another 14 year old on the lips at one point.
Explosive Zombie
Banned
The problem with the ending for ME 3 was that it ignored the choices gamers had made across the franchise. That's not at issue with TLOU. Also, the gamers upset played the game before becoming upset... unlike say... I dunno... maybe this specific instance?
Hobbygaming
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Yeah, you're right I'll just ignore them
Hobbygaming
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That's fair but when the amount of reviews have already reached the amount of reviews the 1st game has in hours, then you know what's up lolLosers are also creating accounts just to leave a 10/10 review
OutRun88
Member
Forgive me for taking " I get a video of a George Washington Statue being toppled and treated just the way Joel was treated in the LOU2 " as a comparison...
I agree that you can give the game whatever review score you like, but the review needs to be bona fide. I said these review bombs are asinine. They are asinine because they are highly unlikely to be rooted in an honest run through of the game, let alone even playing or owning it. That is disingenuous. That is not taking the moral high ground.
Anyways, I feel we have hit the climax of our discussion on the topic at hand. I don't want to derail the thread with a side bar between us.
Exactly. The days of TLOU1, GTA V and all that stuff seems so innocent now.
Oddvintagechap
Member
Xbox troll, Bigot, Snowflake go into a bar.
They cry for months about a game. Share gay porn with each other. And jerk each other over their shared hatred. The end.
They post pictures of “crying” snowflakes while being crying snowflakes. Its amazing how blind the hypocritical whinnies are.
Anyways I been playing the game. I give it a “alright” for now.
They cry for months about a game. Share gay porn with each other. And jerk each other over their shared hatred. The end.
They post pictures of “crying” snowflakes while being crying snowflakes. Its amazing how blind the hypocritical whinnies are.
Anyways I been playing the game. I give it a “alright” for now.
Bladed Thesis
Member
Hahahahaha. This is awesome. You're doing it, Peter! You're doing it!
Hari Seldon
Member
I’m just going to evaluate the post marketing hype opinion when it is launched on PS5 and make my determination to buy then. This served me well with RDR2.