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TLOU2 Haters and Detractors are review-bombing Metacritic. The Salt rises!

Dibils2k

Member
i would say thats a fair score if its for dialogue and story

changing your characters to fit story is cheap
 
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SLoWMoTIoN

Unconfirmed Member
And they all came out before the internet entered the dark ages of the CULTUH WARZZZ. Also Ellie wasn't openly gay in those games, she was a 14 year old who pecked another 14 year old on the lips at one point.
People have a problem with the game because of how the story played out more than anything.
 

GreyHorace

Member
The problem with the ending for ME 3 was that it ignored the choices gamers had made across the franchise. That's not at issue with TLOU. Also, the gamers upset played the game before becoming upset... unlike say... I dunno... maybe this specific instance?

The issue with TLOU2 is that it's story fucking sucks and game reviewers can't go into specifics as to why because Sony has imposed some pretty draconian guidelines as to what they can reveal in their reviews.

Don't you think gamers need to be warned that a videogame with it's story as the main selling point fails at it?

Back to ME3, none of the reviews even hinted to how much the ending sucked. People only found out beforehand on the Bioware forums because some users got a copy early.
 
It's a fictional character in a fictional universe, stop crying about it and roll with the story and the events that happen because of it.
Yeah, how dare people trying to make sense of things!!

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Guilty_AI

Member
That's fair but when the amount of reviews have already reached the amount of reviews the 1st game has in hours, then you know what's up lol
Thats simply due to time of release. A game released on 2013 will have less reviews since there was less online activity at the time.
You can also make the same comparion with GoW3 and GoW18. The former has only +3000 ratings while the latter has +12000 despite a similar 8 year gap.
 
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Dipsed

Member
Last post before I’m out of this thread for good. Everyone should read the user reviews. People are actually giving their honest opinion, in depth take of the game, its flaws and attributes. More that could be said about the questionable intentions of the media. Take time to go through them yea some of them are trolls but the majority of them are legitimate users that played the game and reviewed as honestly as possible.
 
And they all came out before the internet entered the dark ages of the CULTUH WARZZZ. Also Ellie wasn't openly gay in those games, she was a 14 year old who pecked another 14 year old on the lips at one point.
Left behind is when we found out she was gay. Remastered came after that.

So I don't think it has anything to do with the game itself. More how one side celebrates, the other side hates. So when people are there to celebrate a game that has an openly gay character, the other side is there to hate. Because neither side was there years ago

Member when we witnessed only Console Wars and all gaming related fights were non political? I member

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Woggleman

Member
Shortly after the first one released is when the political polarization really started going to hell and for some reason it has really affected the gaming community
 

Ten_Fold

Member
My personally I don’t have a problem with the game being game for LGBTQ, it’s the fact the the first game really felt like some cool post zombie type of vibe. I wanted the second game to have some crazy ass boss monsters or something, just felt the game went the real movie direction, sure the game looks good but that’s it. Gameplay wasn’t impressive in the first game, they even got rid of online. I know some people hate openly gay stories, I don’t, My problem is that I felt I was being sold something I didn’t want. I agree with the user scores, I think 3/10 is a great score for this game. I hate to say it but U2 was really their last great game imo.
 

MiguelItUp

Member
The problem with this game is that the story is not very good, gameplay is similar to the first one, and the critic review scores have been over hyped and over inflated. It seems mostly the SJW are ones blaming the low scores on lgbt topics.

This game is just not the 10/10 the game critics have been hyping, and users who have seen the whole game are voicing their opinions, albeit hyperbolic. This game should be around 7/10 or 8/10, maybe 9/10.
Exactly. To me, anyone blaming "SJW propaganda" as the reason the game isn't good (or as good as the original) aren't any better than the SJWs saying people that don't like it are hateful, sexist, etc.

I don't care for scores, personally. But after everything I've seen, experienced, and read, the 7/10 makes the most sense to me. The story and writing is incredibly meh to me personally, but so are the gameplay mechanics. The "improvements" are so minuscule, and at times the AI looks as bad as if not worse than the previous game. Yes, even on Survivor difficulty.

But I feel like if you LOVED the first game's mechanics a great deal, then you'll most likely enjoy this one just as much. Now with everything else (story, direction, writing, pacing), that's subjective.
 

Hinedorf

Banned
I find the trolling hilarious to be honest. Trolling only works when people get mad and people are getting genuinely mad that not everybody loves this video game that I will never have interest in.

It's funny because you're mad that a company isn't receiving high praise from anonymous sources. Who cares how the game gets rated, it's a matter of how much you enjoy it. Most games sales are still based on preorders, so I'm sure you'll get a third depressing entry.
 

Geki-D

Banned
People have a problem with the game because of how the story played out more than anything.
So why were people already mad long before any leaks happened, just after the gameplay reveal (where we first see Dina) and in that case what does the direction of the story have to do with "wokness"?

It sure seems convenient that people who already hated the game after Ellie was shown kissing a girl can switch their position to "ACTUAWAHLY it's because of how Jole is treated" whilst still complaining constantly (and mostly) about "wokness". Almost like it's a more acceptable motive to hide behind...
 
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SLoWMoTIoN

Unconfirmed Member
So why were people already mad long before any leaks happened, just after the gameplay reveal (where we first see Dina) and in that case what does the direction of the story have to do with "wokness"?

It sure seems convenient that people who already hated the game after Ellie was shown kissing a girl can switch their position to "ACTUAWAHLY it's because of how Jole is treated" whilst still complaining constantly (and mostly) about "wokness". Almost like it's a more acceptable motive to hide behind...
Can't speak for them but after seeing the game's story play out they weren't wrong.
 

GreyHorace

Member
3.4/10 from over 10,000 user scores.


Ouch. Can't wait for the inevitable articles from the 'gaming press' that 10,000 AltRight trolls conspired to hate on a brave and stunning game.
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
So why were people already mad long before any leaks happened, just after the gameplay reveal (where we first see Dina) and in that case what does the direction of the story have to do with "wokness"?

It sure seems convenient that people who already hated the game after Ellie was shown kissing a girl can switch their position to "ACTUAWAHLY it's because of how Jole is treated" whilst still complaining constantly (and mostly) about "wokness". Almost like it's a more acceptable motive to hide behind...
That first preview vid shown a long time ago with Dina (that dance scene) isn't the wokeness people don't like. Don't think people cared. I don't remember tons of posts saying they hated seeing two girls dance and flirt.

It's the other things that happen in the plot people don't like, and not all of it is wokeness/SJW stuff.
 
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Vawn

Banned
3.4/10 from over 10,000 user scores.


All from people posting the minute the game went up for sale proving they haven't played it.

The tears are so delicious.
 

Geki-D

Banned
I don't remember tons of posts saying they hated seeing two girls dance and flirt.
Oh my dude, you have a really bad memory then. People on GAF at the time were saying they were literally disgusted by it. The leaks only happened a few months ago, like it was 3 or 4 at the most. We've had 2 years of people hating on this game. I'll let you do the math.
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
All from people posting the minute the game went up for sale proving they haven't played it.

The tears are so delicious.
You're assuming everyone posting on MC lives in the eastern time zone and haven't already been playing with early copies or from last night when the game came out in different time zones.
 
Seems like a pretty fair score, no? It’s democracy, people should have power to express their opinion. And here, it seems people are doing just that. Vast majority of AAA games don’t get review bombed, look at RDR 2, Uncharted 4 or GoW, just to name a few. Journalists liked them and people liked them. Total consensus.

I’m actually “worried“ user scores might go down once huge amount of people go deeper or finish the game over the weekend or next week and see what shitshow story-wise it is.
 

Sw0pDiller

Member
I might even think that this kind of review bombing is the best compliment a game can get. If you have the writing and acting down to this kind of level that people get offended. You did good, ye did gut naughty dog, ye dit gut
 

M1chl

Currently Gif and Meme Champion
So why were people already mad long before any leaks happened, just after the gameplay reveal (where we first see Dina) and in that case what does the direction of the story have to do with "wokness"?

It sure seems convenient that people who already hated the game after Ellie was shown kissing a girl can switch their position to "ACTUAWAHLY it's because of how Jole is treated" whilst still complaining constantly (and mostly) about "wokness". Almost like it's a more acceptable motive to hide behind...
It's fact that this is what is going on, in multiple high-profile games. I mean look at Gears 5, it's noticable too. I don't hide behind anything, I don't like it and "the age cis-white able bodied man is over" from some presentation of Druckmann....I don't feel I can get behind that. I think that ND games were better with Amy Hening at helm. Because before we had female presence in the games, with very good games like No One Lives Forever and that felt natural.

I am not going to go to MC and wrote some 0/10 shit, but it legitly dissapoints me, what TLoU 2 is and yes I spoiled myself without pressure, because killing characters in same franchise for some personal politics or for some stupid reason, which I have some emotional connection to...whenever it's a movie, TV show or game....I don't like it.

And that's my stance, I don't want to play this game, I am sure that as a game it will be great, but I simply don't like the direction. And if people gonna enjoy it, that's more than fine, more power to them.
 
So why were people already mad long before any leaks happened, just after the gameplay reveal (where we first see Dina) and in that case what does the direction of the story have to do with "wokness"?

It sure seems convenient that people who already hated the game after Ellie was shown kissing a girl can switch their position to "ACTUAWAHLY it's because of how Jole is treated" whilst still complaining constantly (and mostly) about "wokness". Almost like it's a more acceptable motive to hide behind...

Im hesitant to say anything since I think we are getting dangerously close to spoilers but I just finished TLOU 1 again and my take away from going back to the game is that:

-Ellie is the focus going forward just based on how the story ends. Joel seems to be desperately hanging on to Ellie as the one last reclaimed piece of his humanity while Ellie is in the process of losing hers by way of Joel.

-Joel is not a good person and cannot be redeemed.

-Its established that she is either gay or bi or curious (Left Behind)

Is this really what people are pissed about? Because so far its sounding like a fairly logical progression of what TLOU set up.

EDIT: Simple yes or no will suffice so we dont go into spoilers.
 
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StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
Oh my dude, you have a really bad memory then. People on GAF at the time were saying they were literally disgusted by it. The leaks only happened a few months ago, like it was 3 or 4 at the most. We've had 2 years of people hating on this game. I'll let you do the math.
That dance scene was a long time ago. A year or two ago? How many anti-LoU2 posts or threads have there been dedicated to the dance scene?

The vast majority or criticism came when the leaks came out a few months ago showing all kinds of story and cut scenes.
 

Vawn

Banned
You're assuming everyone posting on MC lives in the eastern time zone and haven't already been playing with early copies or from last night when the game came out in different time zones.

Are you seriously trying to make the argument that people gave The Last of Us Part II an honest 0/10 with absolutely no agenda?

Do you realize you are basically asking to never be taken seriously again?
 

lock2k

Banned

I really like the Uncharted series but I really don't see how that makes them so ahead of everyone.

It is a damn cool series (I still have to play the 4th one because I currently don't have a PS4). I would say they are a great developer, but this is exaggerated.
 

MiguelItUp

Member
Oh my dude, you have a really bad memory then. People on GAF at the time were saying they were literally disgusted by it. The leaks only happened a few months ago, like it was 3 or 4 at the most. We've had 2 years of people hating on this game. I'll let you do the math.
Really? I must've missed it somehow. I mean, I'm sure I saw some of the flak it got. But I don't recall a huge wave of disgust or anything. I just vividly remember the negativity, toxicity, and trolling that came when Abby was revealed + the leaks.
 
Im hesitant to say anything since I think we are getting dangerously close to spoilers but I just finished TLOU 1 again and my take away from going back to the game is that:

-Ellie is the focus going forward just based on how the story ends. Joel seems to be desperately hanging on to Ellie as the one last reclaimed piece of his humanity while Ellie is in the process of losing hers by way of Joel.

-Joel is not a good person and cannot be redeemed.

-Its established that she is either gay or bi or curious (Left Behind)

Is this really what people are pissed about? Because so far its sounding like a fairly logical progression of what TLOU set up.

EDIT: Simple yes or no will suffice so we dont go into spoilers.
No.
 

Dr Bass

Member
I might even think that this kind of review bombing is the best compliment a game can get. If you have the writing and acting down to this kind of level that people get offended. You did good, ye did gut naughty dog, ye dit gut

It's so good ... people are offended. Yeah I heard that was also the reaction to The Godfather.
 

Guilty_AI

Member
Im hesitant to say anything since I think we are getting dangerously close to spoilers but I just finished TLOU 1 again and my take away from going back to the game is that:

-Ellie is the focus going forward just based on how the story ends. Joel seems to be desperately hanging on to Ellie as the one last reclaimed piece of his humanity while Ellie is in the process of losing hers by way of Joel.

-Joel is not a good person and cannot be redeemed.

-Its established that she is either gay or bi or curious (Left Behind)

Is this really what people are pissed about? Because so far its sounding like a fairly logical progression of what TLOU set up.

EDIT: Simple yes or no will suffice so we dont go into spoilers.
No, this isn't why people are pissed. I'll leave very light spoilers below that could explain to you (doesn't reveal anything specific):
Characters behave in nonsensical and unbelievable ways, almost as if they're just doing stuff so the script goes where it wants to.
Story is needlessly bleak to the point it becomes funny, imagine something an edgy teenager would write.
New characters are mostly uninteresting, but forced onto the story anyway.
For almost half of the game, you'll be playing a "side quest" of sorts that its 90% certain you'll find irritating
 
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CliffyB's Cock Holster
Truthfacts:

1. Game only came out today, so most people won't have had sufficient time to play much of it. Let alone enough to write it off.

2. As to whether they watched it all on YT... well lets be real if you were interested in giving the game a fair shake why would you watch it all on Youtube in the first place?

3. 0/10 is evidently not a real score. Its a protest and needs to be treated as such: An empty performative gesture. The "cause" doesn't matter when the "action" itself is this feeble. What are they hoping to achieve.

4. We know its all protest because we saw it coming with all the hoopla following the leaks. All of which showed a distinct pattern of people grinding axes and sharpening pitchforks in readyness.

5. Even if people hate the story/representation of characters, what about the rest of the game? If the gameplay was also worth 0/10 could the story make up for that no matter how good it was? Obviously no, but its one of many evident logical fallacies.
 

Sethbacca

Member
When you have to go all the way back to the year 2000 and bring up No One Lives Forever as a good game with a female lead. A game that only those of us gaming since the 80s would likely even be old enough to remember, and that mostothers are unfamiliar with. There's probably a problem of representation in your industry.
 

Saruhashi

Banned
This is going to be the new thing isn't it?

Crying about review bombing.
Crying that other people are crying because the game is good. Or bad. Or a console exclusive. Or whatever.

One of the most annoying things about Reddit is people whinging about being downvoted.
It's constant.
"I guess, having an opinion is a reason to be downvoted."

Like, shut the fuck up. You got downvoted. Big deal.

This is just starting to feel like the same thing.

Game comes out.
Gets good reviews.
Then there are "bad faith" user review scores.
People start crying about review bombing.

Then there's this bizarre bi-polar shit going around.
"LOL! Nerds are triggered because the game has women!"
24 hours later...
"Reeeeeeeeeeeeeee! The nerds are down-voting my beloved new game!"

Here's the best way to personally deal with review bombing.
Realize that most people don't submit user reviews for anything ever.
So don't bother with user scores other than for entertainment purposes.
 
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