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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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JonnyMP3

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Sure but I'm talking the nitty-gritty details like this:

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As much as I love tech... It's things like this that remind me of why I dropped out of my MSCE course after a year and a half almost 20 years ago.

Shit's above my potential pay grade!
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IntentionalPun

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Do these people have games to test with?

Otherwise not sure how they'd know about the feedback. Is this a dev breaking NDA?



He's an accessory maker... yeah, I doubt this guy knows how the triggers or feedback work lol (I'm sure they'll be great.. just annoys me when people BS on Twitter)
 
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FunkMiller

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The Diamond Age is my fav but his latest novels... well, not so much.

Oh god no. His new stuff is awful. Stick to the 90s, that's what I say - that's when cyberpunk was in its heyday and relevant culturally. These days its been appropriated and homogenised by every one and his sister.
 

IntentionalPun

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According to him


Yeah I edited that into my post a few minutes ago lol

I highly doubt the dude has really been able to test the feedback or triggers..i doubt an accessory maker is being sent systems with games or anything like that at this point.

edit: Actually if you read it you can tell he doesn't even know what haptic is.. he's talking about the pull on the triggers I think
 
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PaintTinJr

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I have some questions about PS5's variable clocks and how it may affect the I/O block elements.

At what clock speed(s) do the various I/O blocks run at? All the same clock as each other or independently different? Do they run at the CPU or GPU clock rate?

Anyone have any insight?
Going by AMD's Zen2 block diagram with optional IO block inside (IIRC) and the fact that the IO complex has chips internally with "co-" processor prefix, says it part of the CPU part/chiplet(?)- because co-processors historically are companion chips for the CPU and I'm not familiar with a GPU co-processor.

IIRC co-processors in the past typically had their own clock, but I'm not sure if that's the case.
 

IntentionalPun

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I wonder if this was the same company who made the back button attachment for the DS4.

If this person is credible anyhow.
Reading his post closer I think he actually misread the question and may not even know what haptic is, or about the new trigger features. I think he's just turning it on and pulling the triggers and saying they feel better.
 
Do these people have games to test with?

Otherwise not sure how they'd know about the feedback. Is this a dev breaking NDA?



He's an accessory maker... yeah, I doubt this guy knows how the triggers or feedback work lol (I'm sure they'll be great.. just annoys me when people BS on Twitter)


They have test applications which presumably measure different things. He probably shouldn't have posted those pictures but he hasn't revealed anything we don't already know.
 

JonnyMP3

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Reading his post closer I think he actually misread the question and may not even know what haptic is, or about the new trigger features. I think he's just turning it on and pulling the triggers and saying they feel better.
He'd need a game with information fed to the haptics first wouldn't he? So yeah, probably just testing the physical resistances.
 
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Deto

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Yeah I posted this weeks ago. Mark Cerny went the smaller chip/higher clocks way with the PS5 design and condensed it down to the aphorism "A rising tide lifts all boats". It makes you wonder why Microsoft abandoned this thinking. One X might be understandable as a mid-gen upgrade but going the TF/Compute route with Series X I guess was because of the 2-tier SKU approach (as well as that all important power crown).

Commitment to Azure.
In data centers, CUs matter more than clock.
 
Do these people have games to test with?

Otherwise not sure how they'd know about the feedback. Is this a dev breaking NDA?



He's an accessory maker... yeah, I doubt this guy knows how the triggers or feedback work lol (I'm sure they'll be great.. just annoys me when people BS on Twitter)

Sony probably provided some software on PC so he could test things. If it’s an accessory maker they must know if their product works with the haptics feedback and stuff. Could be something like a licensed 3rd party controller, etc.
 

Vaztu

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Reading his post closer I think he actually misread the question and may not even know what haptic is, or about the new trigger features. I think he's just turning it on and pulling the triggers and saying they feel better.

Wouldn't DualSense work on PS4 games? If it translates properly, it'll use Haptic Feedback instead of Rumble Motors
 
Except for recently delayed Halo Infinite, all MS first party XSX console exclusives are at least 2 years away, that makes perfect sense for their non-ambitious next generation console selling marketing strategy and pushing whole platform in GP service at least for two years into the next generation cycle. But what MS doesn't understand is that while gamers want more new games, not all of them want service games that go on for half a decade before next iteration or sequel, and up until now they have pushed all-in for GaaS games and only very recently in other directions.

Their Fable blunder and closing of Lionhead Studios is indicative of how they want to push something and think that what they are pushing is what gamers want. That game really hurt me bc I was one of the few who eagerly awaited the Beta and what I played was nothing like Fable, only some multiplayer game in lite Fable skin. They really do not have a finger on the pulse of gaming. They close studios before and will do again because you rarely get a studio that knows what they are doing and have a real vision to make a game, and above else push back corporate mandates and make their games and not what is asked of them. What I learned over years is that when a studio wants to make a game and the publisher is restricting them and pushing them to make another game, it will all end up badly for everyones sake, the game will most likely suck, the studio will close...

Even if they had corrected their course a few months ago, these won't affect the repercussions years into the future, games take time to be made and policies take time to get into effect. However, what leaves me completely dumbfounded is they have been saying for years now that they have learned all there is to learn, they heard us, heard what we are saying and understood what we want. And it really has been some years now that the course correction SEEMED to happen and they have been making progress. AND the way they were hyping the next generation console release, it was as though they were READY to show us games that are going to be launch titles, games that are going to be ready within the launch window and some games that will be ready after some time too. But it turns out what they have shown is mostly STILL years away, and what should be the launch title is delayed because it is still uncooked after 5 years....

I have my PC, have my One X, and PS4 Pro, but to me the next generation console buying is a non-decision, there is no choice BUT to go with PS5. I'm no longer considering buying any future Xbox as my second system unless they somehow release a 'killer app' game exclusively to it that I feel like I must buy it which I really doubt will happen right now. Random monthly GP on One X and PC will suffice for foreseeable future.
 
He'd need a game with information fed to the haptics first wouldn't he? So yeah, probably just testing the physical resistances.

I think he is referring to the feel of the buttons just pressing normally, device not on, and comparing to the DS4.

However, he wouldn't need a PS5 or a game to drive the haptics. I'm sure Sony has some test software to exercise all modes of the DualSense. Whether this guy has access to that is the question.
 

JonnyMP3

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I think he is referring to the feel of the buttons just pressing normally, device not on, and comparing to the DS4.

However, he wouldn't need a PS5 or a game to drive the haptics. I'm sure Sony has some test software to exercise all modes of the DualSense. Whether this guy has access to that is the question.
Yeah that's what I meant. Just said game as it was off the top of my head but some form of testing software was the gist.
 

yewles1

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You must have air conditioning to live in such heat.

I once lived in a place called Thabazimbi, South Africa, when i used to work on a platinum mine, temps were up to the 40s as well, needed air-con, and believe it or not a heater in the winter lol.
I lived in Nevada, Las Vegas to be exact. When I was homeless, I was in a situation where I had to hang out with fellow stragglers for survival, when things went south, I left the camp we made to find a more civilized shelter but i had to walk at least 6 miles of Mohave desert in 103 degree Fahrenheit weather... IN JANUARY!!!
 

DaGwaphics

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The way NeoGaf saves the posts you were starting to write. I was going to post "So I take it this is another very slow news day? " in response to all of the temperature talk, but figured it was a useless post.

it's like it takes a different context when attached to the other one. LOL

85º in Rainy FL, to keep the weather service going.
 
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